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Comments on news posted 2004-03-26 11:24:05: Tom's Networking takes a look at what is being dubbed as the first "commercial BPL (Broadband-Over-Powerline) deployment on a cooperative electric distribution system. ..

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Rob
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Fantastic!

That's great!

BPL may even force some cable/DSL Companies to lower their prices or to provide better service. To me, it's not HOW much I am paying, it's the quality of the service I recieve from both the Internet and the customer service.
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shaner
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We've had that kind of DSL basic service for $29.95 here in Canada for a few years now. Through the phone line.


Nightfall
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 Thumbs up!

Ok, so it isn't 1500 down, but it is an option. Satellite dish is a last resort version of broadband. At least with 256/256 you can do some online gaming and fast web browsing. All that at a reasonable price.

If I lived there, I would buy into it.
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Re: Fantastic!

said by shaner See Profile:
We've had that kind of DSL basic service for $29.95 here in Canada for a few years now. Through the phone line.

The problem is that you need to live close to the Central Office. People in rural locations do not have a CO next to them. Which is why it's not an option for them. BPL has a range of 500 miles which is significantly further than what DSL can provide.
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shaner
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Oh, I see. I forgot the US has DSL deployment issues.


Nightfall
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500 miles is a long ass way compared to DSL. I am 12,500 feet (over 2 miles) and I can only get basic DSL package. If I was 18,000 feet or over, I would only qualify for speeds that were right around the same as this BPL.

I do see your point though, but 500 miles is quite far in comparison to DSL. DSL does seem to have them beat on throughput for now though.
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reply to Rob
For me, it is how much I am paying, and the quality of service.


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reply to Nick
I would suggest you check out the new DSLAM equipment being used by Qwest for their DSL deployment. »www.adtran.com I suspect this deployment is a, Look see we are deploying in the rural area, but they know in house they can't make any money out in the sticks they still need to muscle their way into urban markets to do this.
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WGM39

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Re: Thumbs up!

I would agree that satellite is or should be last resort, I have satellite and would kill for something else, well may be not kill.


richk_1957
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reply to shaner
Re: Fantastic!

said by shaner See Profile:
Oh, I see. I forgot the US has DSL deployment issues.

What the hell does that suppose to mean? you think dsl is in every single spot of canada? dont think so.

Well... canada has cable development problems
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said by shaner See Profile:
We've had that kind of DSL basic service for $29.95 here in Canada for a few years now. Through the phone line.

Shaner, you know that it isnt 256/256, its 128/64, and its not unlimited, its has a 2GB cap with $8 per gig after.
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bazzeli_boy

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Re: Thumbs up!

I am also out in the boonies (something like 22,000 ft (over 4 mi) from the CO) and looked into satelite but decided to go with ISDN so that I could play games. Haven't got it working yet (partially becaues I knew NOTHING when I started) but it is 128kbps (people usually get around 120 tho) and everyone says that online gaming is no problem with it (people play halo on xbox live with it and dont lag...). Maybe look into it if you want to do some gaming. Yeah, but this electric thing, AWESOME! Anyone ever seen that semi-recently released to rentals movie where the guy becomes CIA and they talked about the vulnerablity of their "ICE9" software being stolen through a virus through electrical outputs since there is no protection? Crazy! Its a conspiracy I tell you! Run!!! AHHHH!! [Gets up and runs full steam into a wall by accident and is knocked out]

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Re: Fantastic!

Well, more like 128/128. But yeah, there is a cap. I guess I was wondering out loud in a round about kind of way why the DSL's in the States don't use a 'lite' type of service to lure people off of dial up?

I wasn't trying to slag the US in terms of DSL deployment. It's just surprising that a country as heavily populated and industrialised has problems getting DSL service. FYI, there are a lot of smaller rural communities here in Canada that get 3 meg DSL service. And I mean small.


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BPL has a range of 500 miles which is significantly further than what DSL can provide.

That would not be possible without a string of repeaters... But it is impressive if comparing only range.
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stateq2
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said by shaner See Profile:
Well, more like 128/128. But yeah, there is a cap. I guess I was wondering out loud in a round about kind of way why the DSL's in the States don't use a 'lite' type of service to lure people off of dial up?

I wasn't trying to slag the US in terms of DSL deployment. It's just surprising that a country as heavily populated and industrialised has problems getting DSL service. FYI, there are a lot of smaller rural communities here in Canada that get 3 meg DSL service. And I mean small.

yep...the US has big problems w/ dsl deployment....which is why i switched to cable.
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reply to Nightfall
Re: Thumbs up!

said by Nightfall See Profile:
...you can do some online gaming and fast web browsing. All that at a reasonable price.
Since you're 500 miles from your POP with this BPL, in the worst case, don't expect very good ping times... Then again, they should be sub-100ms. Of course, some gamers think if they have more than 20ms pings, the service sucks. These are the same people who can tell the difference between 15ms and 20ms pings too.

bazzeli_boy

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yeah, when you live then where I live with dial up pings in the 400's and you cant even stay in a game w/out being booted for lag, any ping below 200 looks mighty fine!

-bazzel


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reply to Nick
Re: Fantastic!

said by Nick See Profile:
said by shaner See Profile:
We've had that kind of DSL basic service for $29.95 here in Canada for a few years now. Through the phone line.

The problem is that you need to live close to the Central Office. People in rural locations do not have a CO next to them. Which is why it's not an option for them. BPL has a range of 500 miles which is significantly further than what DSL can provide.

The native range of BPL is not 500 miles, so you can't compare this figure to the range of DSL. BPL's range is around 200 meters without repeaters.

For BPL to cover 500 miles, you need the BPL equivalent of a DSLAM every 200 meters (a feedpoint), or repeaters in combination with a feedpoint.

From a technical standpoint, BPL is technically inferior to DSL and cable.


jmkraft
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reply to bazzeli_boy
Re: Thumbs up!

At least you can get ISDN - I can't get anything but a telephone, unless I want to buy a T-1 and I don't have $1400 per month to spend on a T-1.
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