Omega
Displaced Ohioan
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join:2002-07-30
Cheyenne, WY
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| won't happen anytime soon
ISP's need to increase download speeds and GET RID of caps.
Even if these movies were compressed to 50% DVD quality, they would still be ~2GB+. For the average cable user, that is 1/15th of their monthly download limit, just for 1 file.
For most DSL users who have 1.5mbit or less, this file would take a while to download. Even 3mbit would have to have a few hours.
I don't see VOD happening anytime soon.
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NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA
| Very Interesting
Strange because just yesterday I was reading an article about Online DVD Download companies and the thought came to me if Netflix would ever switch to that model.
The answer is definitely yes. But the success of something like the greatly depends on the MPAA and individual ISPs.
I love Netflix and am a big supporter. But as the previous poster said, it may be a while before they can implement this. |
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Rexter
YeeHaw
join:2002-11-17
cloud 9 | reply to Omega
Re: won't happen anytime soon
The average Bit-rate on full quality DivX is quite low. I wonder if there is a way to stream a DivX file. |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | reply to Omega
Yeah, this cap BS is going to hamper deployment. Also, the compressed video is OK...I guess. Kinda reminds me of a mediocre(sp) VHS recording...but it's a start. |
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TheSaint
join:2002-01-25
Hanover Park, IL
clubs:
·Charter Pipeline
·Comcast
| reply to NPGMBR
Re: Very Interesting
It won't be long before the pirates find a way to crack whatever encoding the Netflix people use, then start redistributing the films accross the typical networks. What will be interesting is to see if the MPAA will cooperate with such a plan, there is considerable risk involved from their viewpoint. I'd be very supprised if they supported such a move.
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Rexter
YeeHaw
join:2002-11-17
cloud 9 | It can't be any worse than the amount of people cracking the CSS DVD protection, and releasing the full DVD as a torrent file. I'll bet that better than half of the DVD torrents you find came from NetFlix Customers. |
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ssj4android
Redefining Reality
join:2002-04-14
Wyoming, MI | WMV9 DRM
That's hasn't been cracked yet, has it? They'll probably use that, or whatever version is out then. |
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TheSaint
join:2002-01-25
Hanover Park, IL
clubs:
·Charter Pipeline
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| reply to Rexter
Re: Very Interesting
Yes, but they will have a much better selection to chose from now compared to most local rental stores that only have the latest releases on DVD's, or at least this is the case in my area.
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wolfox
Gentle Wolfox
join:2002-11-27
Dunnellon, FL
| reply to Rexter
Re: won't happen anytime soon
said by Rexter  :
The average Bit-rate on full quality DivX is quite low. I wonder if there is a way to stream a DivX file.
It is possible to stream DivX, but it is a CODEC that is meant for archival. Things get UGLY when you try to stream it - instead, look into NSV. It is a wavelet compression CODEC (VP3.x and VP6.x) that makes extremely small files and is streamable rather easily with the same quality. (And it is free)
Now why am I bringing this up?
Too many "video on demand" places are too busy trying to imitate - not innovate. ;> Newer, better, faster means are HERE and are FREE no less...
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Topmounter
Sent By Grocery Clerks
join:2001-02-20
Evergreen, CO | reply to Rexter
Re: Very Interesting
yep, already happening, can't see how this would make it any worse.
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Ecologic
join:2001-01-25
Chattanooga, TN
| Cheap & Better Alternative
Cheap and better alternative:
»www.gameznflix.com
Offer games and movies, for less. Can't beat them. I couldn't be happier with them.
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laura
Domestic Bliss
Premium
join:2002-04-16
San Jose, CA
| reply to Omega
Re: won't happen anytime soon
said by Omega :
ISP's need to increase download speeds and GET RID of caps.
Even if these movies were compressed to 50% DVD quality, they would still be ~2GB+. For the average cable user, that is 1/15th of their monthly download limit, just for 1 file.
For most DSL users who have 1.5mbit or less, this file would take a while to download. Even 3mbit would have to have a few hours.
I don't see VOD happening anytime soon.
Me either, not until download speeds are raised and they stop the invisible caps.
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tiger72
SexaT duorP
Premium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
clubs:
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| reply to wolfox
there's already services which offer downloadable movies (although I can't find the link) for $2.99. You download the movie, hold it for 30 days and can watch it for a 24/hr period. Then again, if you have 3mbit lines, you can stream movies at a very high quality with divx/xvid compression. |
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Cyron
join:2002-09-24
Charlotte, NC
| reply to TheSaint
Re: Very Interesting
I'm currently a Netflix customer. I can have 8 DVD's out at a time, which generally gives me about 40 DVD's a month (with mail time). This service costs $40 a month ($1 per DVD).
I'm building my library now, copying every movie I rent to DVDR. After 3-4 months, my old movie collection should be complete, and I'll switch to the cheaper, $20 a month service.
While I don't make them available on P2P, I do make them available to friends on my private FTP site. I'm afraid I don't see the difference between someone renting the movie from netflix and ripping it, or downloading it from netflix and ripping it. |
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stet
Volitar Prime
join:2002-03-08
Warren, MI
| reply to Ecologic
Re: Cheap & Better Alternative
I could be much happier with them. I signed up a week and a half ago and have yet to receive any of the movies in my queue. Also, I can't figure out how to add games to it. I'm going to have to cancel my account with them before the 2 week trial is up, without even having anything out of them.
They suck!
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stet
Volitar Prime
join:2002-03-08
Warren, MI | Already being done...
...by one of their competitors, GreenCine. |
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Ecologic
join:2001-01-25
Chattanooga, TN
| reply to stet
Re: Cheap & Better Alternative
said by stet :
I could be much happier with them. I signed up a week and a half ago and have yet to receive any of the movies in my queue. Also, I can't figure out how to add games to it. I'm going to have to cancel my account with them before the 2 week trial is up, without even having anything out of them.
They suck!
The system was hit with a virus on the day of launch. I have received my movies. In fact, I just sent one back to them today.
I would suggest you at least stick with them for a while, then of course if your experience doesn't get better you should cancel.
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stet
Volitar Prime
join:2002-03-08
Warren, MI
2 edits | Well, I just tried to cancel. I called their number and selected 1 for customer support, but got forwarded to the executive office answering service 
These guys seem to be an example of how not to do things. Nothing works. Their support service, their queue system, their search system, etc.
Edit: in my 5th attempt, I finally got a hold of someone and canceled my account. I had to press 0 instead of 1. It seems that their prompts are being routed incorrectly (like most of their web site).
I may look into them again in a few months, if and when they get things straightened out. In the mean time, I can not recommend them.
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Rexter
YeeHaw
join:2002-11-17
cloud 9 | reply to wolfox
Re: won't happen anytime soon
Where can I find more information on this NSV? |
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NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA
| reply to Cyron
Re: Very Interesting
What you say makes perfect sense. But im guessing the MPAA is already working on a solution.
What you're doing now is not that much of a threat. The biggest threat to their profits comes from easy online access worldwide.
Then again, my assumption can be wrong. |
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