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Comments on news posted 2004-04-30 10:11:09: A growing number of economically stagnant communities have been turning toward municipal broadband to cure what ails them. ..


waynemr

join:2002-01-28
Madison, WI

Is there a link for this?

Is there a link for this info? "According to recent data from the Strategic Networks Group of Ottawa"



Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
kudos:39

Added a link.

See pdf: Economic Impact Study of the
South Dundas Township Fibre Network

»www.dti.gov.uk/industries/teleco···0603.pdf

Recent Globe and Mail article in PDF:

»www.sngroup.com/Globe%20&%20Mail···icle.pdf



minidu
Premium
join:2002-09-28
Cheboygan, MI

Wow

After reading that I'm really impressed by the numbers and such...

I'm seriously thinking about presenting this to the city council where I live.
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woody7
Premium
join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA

Great....

The more communities that do this weather 100% successful or not will show that they have the will where the big players don't....atleast some one is trying instead of saying no need, not enough revenue, to expensive....etc.... If we are the "Industrial Power" that we claim to be, why are we behind the curve on this one?
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Swingerhead
Premium
join:2004-04-06
Richmond, VA

Can I have that job?

Can I have the .5 job, since I really only do half of my work in a day since Im surfing this site all day....

The community spent $975,000 to build and maintain the network, and as a result has witnessed 62.5 new jobs, $2.1 million in commercial expansion in the region, and $105,000 in increased regional revenues and cost-savings.


BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Wakefield, MA
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
reply to minidu

Re: Wow

said by minidu:
After reading that I'm really impressed by the numbers and such...

I'm seriously thinking about presenting this to the city council where I live.

Once you do that you do realize Who ever your telco and cable companies are will come in and smear your campaign right.

Look at the fools near Chicago who got the campaign stopped and then got price increases. That was humorous and I still laugh when i think about it.
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BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Wakefield, MA
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
reply to Swingerhead

Re: Can I have that job?

said by Swingerhead:
Can I have the .5 job, since I really only do half of my work in a day since Im surfing this site all day....

The community spent $975,000 to build and maintain the network, and as a result has witnessed 62.5 new jobs, $2.1 million in commercial expansion in the region, and $105,000 in increased regional revenues and cost-savings.

Probably a part time job for a teen in that .5
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JTRockville
Data Ho
Premium,MVM
join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
reply to minidu

Re: Wow

said by minidu:
After reading that I'm really impressed by the numbers and such...

I'm seriously thinking about presenting this to the city council where I live.
Great idea minidu See Profile], I was thinking of doing the same.

said by Page 15 and 16 of the EIS posted here by Karl Bode See Profile:
...snip...

• 19 out of 38 (50.0%) businesses with broadband access* to the Internet experienced job growth. This number includes 24 organizations using the fibre network, 13 of which (54.2%) experienced job growth.

• 10 out of 37 (27.0%) businesses with dial-up access to the Internet experienced job growth.

• 1 out of 18 (5.6%) businesses with no Internet access experienced job growth.

* Due to difficulties with discrepancies between Internet Service Providers (ISPs) serving South Dundas, potential and actual download speeds, broadband access is defined in these findings as Cable, High Speed, Fibre Optic or Wireless connections to the Internet.

...snip...

These findings suggest a correlation between job growth and the use of the Internet –
particularly with broadband access. In the following sections, these effects will be
examined further by controlling for the effect of industry sector and size of the
organization on job growth.

...snip...
I wonder if similar studies were done during deployment of electricity or telephone service.

BossTanaka

join:2004-04-30
Buford, GA

Needs a federal/state subsidy, if you ask me.

I think this is the answer to small towns where the phone and cable companies do not want to invest the capital for what they see as small or non-existent returns on investment. I know its much more attractive to the big companies to go after 50K-5M population areas than one with 2-5K.

Of course, those paying taxes in big towns and cities do not want to see their state/federal tax monies to going to help the hicks in those small towns.



jap
Premium
join:2003-08-10
038xx

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reply to woody7

Re: Great....

said by woody7:
If we are the "Industrial Power" that we claim to be, why are we behind the curve on this one?
Near religious zealotry about privatization: efficient for short term monetary gains but lousy for longterm, balanced, sustainable anything.


jap
Premium
join:2003-08-10
038xx

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1 recommendation

reply to BossTanaka

Re: Needs a federal/state subsidy, if you ask me.

said by BossTanaka:
those paying taxes in big towns and cities do not want to see their state/federal tax monies to going to help the hicks in those small towns.
Yup, but them there C-slickers get all pissy when on vacation in those same small towns & their cellphones don't work & the internet cafe' (aka gas station + restaurant + community center + post office + internet cafe) is on dial-up.


Octopussy2
Premium
join:2003-03-30
Batavia, IL
reply to BosstonesOwn

Re: Wow

Hopefully they are ready to redeem themselves here and are willing to get this back on the ballots for Nov. 2004. If residents are fools enough to turn this project down twice....then no one can help them and they get what they deserve. Can't say we didn't try to warn them, and no one is laughing here now. Maybe the residents here might finally believe Comcast and SBC don't care about their taxes?! (Which was such a bogus argument to begin with....).
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