arden625
join:2001-07-10
Haledon, NJ | SP2 Beta
I'm liking the beta of SP2 right now, and I have a good feeling the final release would be a good one.
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digiblur
Got Sipura?
Premium
join:2002-06-03
Louisiana | ActiveX
I've been enjoying the no popups and the ActiveX free browsing experience for quite some time!
»www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ |
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Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
clubs:
| reply to arden625
Re: SP2 Beta
I'm pretty pleased with it to, but the current beta certainly doesn't stop spyware. Blocks a lot of ActiveX objects I need, but hasn't stopped a single piece of spyware/hijackers.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | ActiveX
Is there going to be a way to disable ActiveX blocking? I have ActiveX filtering happening right now, If I want to block ALL ActiveX, it's just a click away. I just want to be able to choose myself...does that make sense? |
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purwater
Premium
join:2002-10-25
Swords Creek, VA | reply to arden625
Re: SP2 Beta
I'm liking SP2 beta as well. It wouldn't run stable on my laptop, but my desktop has been perfect. The firewall and pop up blocker have worked as they should. I'm hoping the final release will run smoothly on my laptop as well. |
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Dustyn
Premium
join:2003-02-26
Ontario, CAN | reply to digiblur
Re: ActiveX
Hey me too! 
»www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/ |
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fatmanskinny
Premium
join:2004-01-04
Wandering
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Re: SP2 Beta
said by purwater  :
.....The firewall and pop up blocker have worked as they should.
Is the firewall more customize-friendly than the current one built into Win XP? I am looking for results similar to Zone Alarm without the bloat.
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vic102482
Premium
join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD
1 edit | I like it too but I hope
That they come with a server installation and some GPO options that can be edited. A firewall for PC isnt nessesary for the enterprise and it isnt feasable for system administrators to manually do it. I hope they are thinking server side as well.
Good job Microsoft!:)
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linicx
Caveat Emptor
Premium
join:2002-12-03
United State | Ho Hum
Much ado about nothing. I'd like to see a real improvement like changing the e-mail to a secure cross-platform system that can't be used to deliver destructive payloads.
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Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
clubs: | reply to fatmanskinny
Re: SP2 Beta
It is, has program level settings. Unfortunately they still haven't set it up to allow specified port ranges, you have to punch in each port one at a time. |
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jplove71
IBEW 113
Premium
join:2001-03-16
Colorado Springs, CO
| reply to digiblur
Re: ActiveX
said by digiblur :
I've been enjoying the no popups and the ActiveX free browsing experience for quite some time!
»www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
Same here. I only use IE when poorly coded websites don't work properly or at all. |
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astamand
Premium
join:2003-10-11
Temple, NH
| Nice features for IT people
One of the nice features with the Microsoft Firewall is that IT managers will be able to set a global policy in the domain which affects the rules. Since the default is strict, we could use this to open up certain ports for, say, tools used by an engineering group for example. Otherwise, once everyone in that group updated they would come running and say "X" doesn't work anymore! And we would have to go around one by one and allow the ports or send an email with instructions on how to do so. |
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Steve
I'm a PC, so shut up
Consultant
join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA
| reply to linicx
Re: Ho Hum
said by linicx :
Much ado about nothing.
Then you haven't been paying attention: XP/SP2 is an enormous improvement in security on many fronts, not just popup blockers. This should have happened long, long ago, but I don't know anybody who's really looked at this who says "it's nothing". Not even Microsoft haters.
Analysis here
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astamand
Premium
join:2003-10-11
Temple, NH
| reply to vic102482
Re: I like it too but I hope
said by vic102482 :
That they come with a server installation and some GPO options that can be edited. A firewall for PC isnt nessesary for the enterprise and it isnt feasable for system administrators to manually do it. I hope they are thinking server side as well.
Good job Microsoft!:)
I used to think this way as well, but with the latest run of Internet worms, I have changed my mind.
As IT Managers, we can patch all the holes and run the firewall on the outside of the building, but it's not enough. All you need is ONE USER to break the whole thing down.
An example with the last Sasser worm we had what we thought were all the required patches on our hosts. We checked with port scanning tools such as Retina to find systems on our network before the worms do. When we find them, we patch them. The systems with Firewalls always pass.
Anyway, since you don’t need to open a payload to get infected with Sasser, it managed to come into the build via some loser’s laptop (we assume). Once in, it had the run of the place because the latest virus definitions were not yet out and the patch was just being released.
We got a hold of it, but if everyone had a Firewall like ZoneAlarm or the new MS firewall it would have been a non issue.
Yes, the management of client side firewalls has been a pain in the past but the new MS Firewall will allow the settings of all clients to be part of a domain policy (see previous post), so it should be a piece of cake. |
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NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA | reply to purwater
Re: SP2 Beta
The article is wrong. MS put out a pop-up blocker about two months or more ago. |
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BIGMIKE
Premium
join:2002-06-07
Westminster, CA | reply to astamand
Re: Nice features for IT people
The rezoned Microsoft is adding all this new Security the Government got on his ass! And all software bender the US Government BUY A lot of software, and the Security bugs is costing tax payer a lot of money . |
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
| reply to Steve
Re: Ho Hum
Who cares how improved this is? So MS incorporated something that you can get off the internet for free. And they did it two years too late. No thanks, I'll trust Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D, and 12-Ghosts. They've been doing it longer, and are already installed on my system. Combine those with a hardware firewall, and the obligatory lame MS firewall, and I'm pretty secure.
puritan |
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lestat99
join:2000-08-04
Piscataway, NJ
| reply to astamand
Re: Nice features for IT people
I have been considering running the SP2 beta on my laptop. Can anyone share their experiences regarding the stability and compatibility of the current beta. Any problems that they have had which they can share with the group here would be appreciated.
Also, does anyone know how easy it is to uninstall the current SP2beta? How easy and problem free will it be to upgrade to the production code when released?
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yock
TFTC
Premium
join:2000-11-21
Fairfield, OH
| reply to Steve
Re: Ho Hum
I read your analysis a month or so ago, Steve, and I must say I like what's ahead for MS and Windows. I never knew that the NT security model was so complex, knowing that really brings light to the problems we all run into when trying to run programs as a non-administrator. With some of the features software developers will now be forced to use, hopefully we'll see better implementation on the part of software developers, rather than having to be an administrator to run everything.
Somewhat akin to all of those *nix docs telling you to 'chmod 777'  |
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astamand
Premium
join:2003-10-11
Temple, NH
| reply to lestat99
Re: Nice features for IT people
said by lestat99 :
I have been considering running the SP2 beta on my laptop. Can anyone share their experiences regarding the stability and compatibility of the current beta. Any problems that they have had which they can share with the group here would be appreciated.
Also, does anyone know how easy it is to uninstall the current SP2beta? How easy and problem free will it be to upgrade to the production code when released?
That is exactly what I did lestat99. The installation is easy and it forces you to create the backup files so that it can be uninstalled. the option to not archive the files was grayed out, most likely since this is still beta.
The only issue I had with it is that it took FOREVER to install.
Other than that it's cool. You get a pop up blocker and a improved firewall. Plus you get other security fixes that they have not released to the GP yet.
No performance issues thus far. |
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