B
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28 | Didn't Last Long?
As of right now "whenu" returns about 34,700 hits on Google. FWIW.
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TheMadSwede
Premium
join:2001-01-30
Holland, MI
 ·Charter Pipeline
| Highly recommended
Read the article => »www.benedelman.org/spyware/whenu-spam/
It's not the technical rocket-science stuff that some of us like, but it does a good job of explaining what's going on.
I respect Google for sticking up for its policies. Sometimes the results on Google are bad enough without morons trying to mess with the accuracy of the results. I can't imagine what it would be like without any sort of checks.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | Scumware=scumware, period.
Subject. ^^^^^ |
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Jeremy341
Bye
Premium
join:2000-01-06
localhost | reply to B
Re: Didn't Last Long?
RTFA. They didn't remove all references to the company, just links to the company's site. |
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B
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28 |
Don't curse at me. Crawl away.
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ghostpainter
I Write for the Apocalypse
Premium,MVM
join:2002-05-25
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
clubs:
|  reply to dadkins
Re: Scumware=scumware, period.
said by dadkins  :
Subject. ^^^^^
What another Gator-Gain wanna be!!!
Or could it be The Gator gang in Redux??? |
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rstrandb
Premium
join:2003-04-17
Albany, GA | Horray for google
Glad to see it, remove all references to spyware companies off your search engines. |
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Jeremy341
Bye
Premium
join:2000-01-06
localhost | reply to B
Re: Didn't Last Long?
Don't try and cover up the fact that you didn't RTFA. Crawl away. |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | reply to ghostpainter
Re: Scumware=scumware, period.
Gator, WhenU, CoolWeb, Whatever...it should ALL be banned/eradicated. |
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z28kindaguy
Premium
join:2002-02-18
Brooklyn, MD
clubs:
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to Jeremy341
Re: Didn't Last Long?
said by Jeremy341 :
Don't try and cover up the fact that you didn't RTFA. Crawl away.
Reading this and your other posts makes me realize you're not too smart. Does it make you feel better when you tell someone to RTFA? Too scared to type out the curse? 
Anyways, I'm glad Google and Yahoo are taking a stand against this. 
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Jeremy341
Bye
Premium
join:2000-01-06
localhost
| said by z28kindaguy :
Reading this and your other posts makes me realize you're not too smart.
Thanks for your opinion. I'll be sure to put it exactly where it belongs...
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
 ·AT&T U-Verse
| reply to rstrandb
Re: Horray for google
I think that ought to apply to bogus spyware removal
tools like Stop-Sign (it is itself spyware) and Spy
Hunter (questionable spyware remover at the very least -
they make you pay to remove the spyware it finds), whose
ads still show up when you Google for Spybot. Or have
they in fact removed them?
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Varangian
join:2002-12-08
Collinsville, IL
|  counter attack needed
If we're forver on the defensive the spyware suits will win eventually.
A grisly example needs to be made of one of them. Maybe the othes will back off.
Old time divers will tell you that the thing to do against sharks is kill one where the others can see you do it. Then they know you're not safe to eat. |
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Vamp
5c077
Premium
join:2003-01-28
MD
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to Jeremy341
Re: Didn't Last Long?
I agree, he should of read the fkin article, and also should know that google is not going to remove all text with the word "whenU"
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djblack
join:2002-08-19
Troutdale, OR
| reply to Doctor Four
Re: Horray for google
said by Doctor Four :
I think that ought to apply to bogus spyware removal
tools like Stop-Sign (it is itself spyware) and Spy
Hunter (questionable spyware remover at the very least -
they make you pay to remove the spyware it finds), whose
ads still show up when you Google for Spybot. Or have
they in fact removed them?
Geez, no kidding.
It's kinda like a guy who sneaks out to your house, and drills a hole in your roof. Strangly enough, the next day, a roofing salesman shows up at your doorstep.
Hmmm... ?? |
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birdfeedr
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to Varangian
Re: counter attack needed
said by Varangian :
Old time divers will tell you that the thing to do against sharks is kill one where the others can see you do it. Then they know you're not safe to eat.
Since sharks have very limited vision, and a highly refined sense of taste, you'd have to be swimming in the middle of them so they could "see" you kill one. The sharks that saw you kill one might take off (I doubt it), but the sharks farther away would taste blood in the water and come zooming in for a feeding frenzy on the dead shark.
I think how it's supposed to work is to leave bloody food taste in the water, and get the hell out of there. I doubt sharks have a sense of brethren. They're just eating machines. |
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mohito
Premium
join:2003-09-29
New York, NY | Pathetic that they were relisted so quick
The title covers it... but someone in their corporate management had to know what was going on... right??
So delist them for a nice long time as an example of what not to do. |
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Ben Edelman
@attbi.com
| Not true that 'Company was Relisted'
The last sentence of the story above says "The company was relisted once they discontinued the practice." This is false: To date, WhenU hasn't been relisted in either Google or Yahoo.
WhenU's CEO was quoted as saying he anticipates being relisted soon, but Google's policy explicitly mentions the possibility of a permanent exclusion.
Meanwhile, there's evidence suggesting that WhenU's cloaking activities lasted for the better part of two years, going back as far as July 2002. (See the report for details.) If this is true, or if the search engines think it is true, I would expect them to be especially unlikely to re-add WhenU quickly. Setting the right incentives here -- not to cloak -- requires that the punishment for cloaking be larger (for the companies considering cloaking) than the benefit. If the choice were two years of cloaking followed by a couple days of exclusion, lots of companies might rationally decide cloaking is a fine approach, the rules notwithstanding!
Ben Edelman
»www.benedelman.org |
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Ben Edelman
@attbi.com
| Which SEO WhenU Used
A few people have asked me which SEO WhenU used. I've taken a look, and all signs point to Synergy6. See my new addition to the site:
Which SEO Did WhenU Use? The Best Inference: Synergy6
»www.benedelman.org/spyware/whenu···seo.html
Ben Edelman
»www.benedelman.org |
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Ben Edelman
@attbi.com
| WhenU Relisted in Yahoo
WhenU has been relisted in Yahoo. See »search.yahoo.com/search?p=whenu . My research indicates that WhenU's hidden links began in August 2002 or earlier (see »www.benedelman.org/spyware/whenu···duration ). So WhenU got on the order of twenty months of these practices, compared with only two weeks of exclusion from Yahoo. If that's the tradeoff, cloaking looks like a pretty good deal! Note, however, that www.whenu.com remains excluded from Google.
Also, note new research showing how WhenU violates its own privacy policy: »www.benedelman.org/spyware/whenu-privacy .
Ben Edelman
»www.benedelman.org |
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