Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH | Don't "upgrade" (yet)
I learned a long time ago to let others be the "public" beta testers when products are released.... It doesn't always pay to have the latest and greatest. |
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Zunger
join:2003-08-24
Fayetteville, AR | if everyone had that opinion, then there would be no point in beta testing, now would there? |
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Steve
I'm a PC, so shut up
Consultant
join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA
| said by Zunger  :
if everyone had that opinion, then there would be no point in beta testing, now would there?
Yah, so? That's one of those silly "if" questions that provides zero useful information.
If everybody stuck with typewriters, we wouldn't have word processors, would we?
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Stephen J. Friedl * Security Consultant * Tustin, California USA * my web site |
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Zunger
join:2003-08-24
Fayetteville, AR | we have brains, do we not? |
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DHRacer
Fire Survivor
join:2000-10-10
Lake Arrowhead, CA
 ·Charter Pipeline
 ·Verizon west (ex G..
| Pro only?
This seems to be a problem with Pro only?
I run ZA Free, and I just went and did the upgrade last night, and it didn't care what AV I had.
Its logic is probably that you don't need more than one AV program running at the same time and so it prefers its AV over your own. I wouldn't buy ZA Pro now, since I am happy with my AV as it is.
It's SAV 8.0, Small Biz Edition.
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"The three most dangerous things are a programmer with a soldering iron, a manager who codes, and a user who gets ideas." - Unknown"A computer is like an Old Testament god, with a lot of rules and no mercy." - Joseph Campbell |
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Zunger
join:2003-08-24
Fayetteville, AR | it looks like the majority of people are having problems with macafee. |
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cork1958
Cork
join:2000-02-26
Fruitport, MI | been watching
Been watching the various sites and listening to the rants about this one. I hate companies that have to bungle (bundle) things they have no knowledge of. |
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Trel
Good Evening
Premium
join:2002-10-08
Hillsborough, NJ
| reply to Zunger
Re: Don't "upgrade" (yet)
said by Zunger :
we have brains, do we not?
If everyone used their brain, we would have these pointless arguments  |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| Tried it....
I recently gave ZA another shot since my router died.
After struggling with it for 3 days on XP Pro with an RDP disconnect issue, I gave up and went back to the XP SP2 Firewall.
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TripOnThis.net Administrator
"Security by obscurity is no security at all. Don't believe the hype." (c) MntlCase |
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Flizesh
Premium
join:2003-08-16
Staten Island, NY
clubs: | they should have stuck to just being a firewall
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stevek1949
We're not in Kansas anymore
join:2002-11-13
Virginia Beach, VA
 ·Verizon FIOS
·Verizon Online DSL
|  reply to DHRacer
Re: Pro only?
I use the free version and PC-Cillin. I had the prompt during the upgrade that it was incompatible and I needed to uninstall PCC. I didn'd do the install and checked the ZA user forums. It is full of comments about BSD errors and such. I stayed with version 4.5.
I am not going uninstall my AV for theirs. :huh |
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Anon43
@mchsi.com | reply to Flizesh
Re: they should have stuck to just being a firewal
I had used ZAP+ (registered version) and the reg info was still in the registry (I guess) because the new suite registered with the same key.
Just saved $60  |
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mrherzog
join:2001-05-06
Coquitlam, BC | BWAHAHA...now thats funny |
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dapoohda
Kompani Linge
Premium
join:2000-11-09
Fargo, ND
clubs:
·CableOne
| reply to DHRacer
Re: Pro only?
I, too, am using Zone Alarm Free Version. I have not noted any significant problems yet.. But, I have noticed on one machine ZAF does not recognize AVG as anti-virus software.
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You never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough. ~William Blake 3135mhz |
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Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
·EarthLink
·AT&T Midwest
·Earthlink Cable Mo..
| reply to Zunger
Re: Don't "upgrade" (yet)
said by Zunger :
if everyone had that opinion, then there would be no point in beta testing, now would there?
And then maybe the software companies would consider making a better product and more testing internally vs releasing a product not when sales/marketing say "ship it". |
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richk_1957
If ..Then..Else
Premium
join:2001-04-11
Minas Tirith | I upgraded last night
I run ZA pro with Norton Corporate Anti Virus.
I did a upgrade, not a fresh install to save time.
Had no problems last or night or this morning.
Will check again when I get home. |
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MWR2NY
join:2002-02-06
Edgewood, MD
| reply to Hall
Re: Don't "upgrade" (yet)
I Run Microsoft XP SP2 with SAV and ZA 4.0.146.029. I don't believe in putting all my eggs in one basket. XP SP2 is worthless as long as you run a firewall and Anti-Virus. We all know trusting any Microsoft product is putting the Internet in jeopardy. My AV calls in for an update every night and I trust ZA to block out the bad guys. I stopped upgrade ZA when my shut downs hung on newer ZA builds. Don't trust all in ones and don't patronize only one software manufacturer. |
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TechieZero
Tools Are Using Me
Premium
join:2002-01-25
Wesley Chapel, FL |  Firewalls are useless anyway.
Why put up a brick wall; just to knock the bricks out of it so that you can look in and out of your wall?
The best firewall is to get a router and to make it not respond to outside pings.
Then get some sort of AV software. |
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exocet_cm
I am the law
Premium
join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
clubs:
·Cox HSI
·Suddenlink
 ·Cingular Wireless
·AT&T Southeast
·Charter Pipeline
| *mubles*......outgoing connections......
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He that feeds a disease, feeds an enemy. Some diseases are starved. Starve your sins by fasting and humiliation. Either kill your sin, or your sin will kill you. - Thomas Watson Harmless as doves 131 |
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Navo
join:2004-05-25
Atlanta, GA
| reply to TechieZero
Yes that may be true...hence 2 walls are thicker than 1. A hardware firewall for those "outside pings" your talking about. But a software (operative word "software") firewall can provide protection against outbound connections. I.e Photoshop.exe, Word.exe and just about any executable installed (software) will connect if there is nothing preventing them. Software firewalls like ZoneAlarm can even prevent *Specific* .dll's and system files from intervention. A router cannot do that.
And the power of having 2 walls pursuant to the post:
If my hardware (router) brickwall falls then at least I have holes to shoot/fire through to disable my enemy before they knock down the softwall. You can have NO WALL without holes without letting common port 80 through...otherwise there's no need for the Internet Service other than donating a monthly bill for the hell of it. Routers, Firewalls and Blocklists have proven to be very useful. But a firewall can only be useful if you actually know how to use and configure it for optimal protection. |
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