GNXPower
Got Boost?
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join:2003-12-18
Huntington Beach, CA
| Better be $12 a month
'Cause that's what other VoIP providers are getting down to. I was talking to Comcast about their upcoming digital phone service (not VoIP) and the pricing wasn't that different from Verizon. Meanwhile Cox entered the Orange County market years ago undercutting what was then Pacbell by 30-50% for the first line and 50%+ for the second.
Look at Optimum voice, $35, while competitors are at $20-$30. VoIP is just data and an ATA can be put anywhere. Anti-consumer companies like Comcast are going to be in for quite a shock when they actually for the first time have to compete on an even playing field with other providers. I wouldn't put it past Comcast to interfere with other VoIP traffic, just as they started these anti-DBS penalties a while back.
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digiblur
Got Sipura?
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join:2002-06-03
Louisiana
| Others to remain?
The question remains: with the entry of the cable giants and eventually the bells, will there be enough room for the smaller VoIP operations currently enjoying early success?
Yes, if the bigger boys keep charging $40 a month plus junk fees. You just can't beat getting a phone line for around $15 a month for unlimited regional calling. |
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ropeguru
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join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs: | But...
If they want to offer VoIP they STILL need to raise the upload speeds. Or anytime someone in the house is talking on the phone and some one surfs they will get choppy voice on the conversion. The current 256k still isn't enough. |
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shellenberg
Premium
join:2003-12-20
Salmo, BC | To my friends "down south"...
Do you know if there are any plans for the FCC to start jumping in on voip providers with all sorts of regulations? Right now, I'd assume its regulation free (as the internet). |
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hescominsoon
join:2003-02-18
Brunswick, MD | reply to ropeguru
Re: But...
actually the VOIP data uses a different channel than the inet upload so the two will not effect each other.
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ropeguru
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join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs: | That is only if they are doing digital phone though. For VoIP it would use your internet connection just like Vonage and all the others.
Unles they are doing something totally different that I do not know about. |
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enOehT
Premium
join:2003-05-17
Langhorne, PA
2 edits | reply to hescominsoon
actually it depends what kind of VOIP implementation you are talking about. 
without QoS on your router, you will run into this issue. |
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Kommie
join:2003-05-13
East Haven, CT | reply to ropeguru
Its going to be based like the current Digital Phone. Box outside house connected to current phone lines in house but they will use VOIP switches insted of the current circut based ones. |
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WolfJaguar
join:2003-03-20
Portland, OR | reply to shellenberg
Re: To my friends "down south"...
That's in prelim right now. Since NY decided to try and regulate Vonage. The FCC might be looking into that. |
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imrf
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join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
 ·WOW Internet and C..
| reply to ropeguru
Re: But...
said by ropeguru  :
Unles they are doing something totally different that I do not know about.
Sure are. They are currently using an Arris modem that does only VoIP. It hooks up exactly like your cable modem does, and usually sits right next to it. It handles VoIP while your modem handles all your data. Both run on different data channels so uploads won't be effected. It's a similar solution to what Cablevision is using. They use the Motorola SBV4200, the data and VoIP data channels are separate while both are contained by the same device. |
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ropeguru
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join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs:
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Ok, so it realy isn't true VoIP?? We have had the digital phone service here in my area since it was AT&T cable. THe boxes they are using here do not really use an IP address. It is converted to its own style digital signal and sent back to thier equipment. Not a really true implementation of VoIP as it never uses an IP address.
I thought they were implementing using an ATA of the sort like all the other VoIP providers. |
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enOehT
Premium
join:2003-05-17
Langhorne, PA | it is still VoIP, the voice data is still going over an IP network, it is just not using your upstream, like a vonage type setup will. |
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Corvus
Flaming Tards Since 2003
Premium,VIP
join:2003-11-26
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hescominsoon is right, cable companies will sell VoIP as another Internet access on his own QUAM wich is a plus against third party VoIP providers.
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techguyga
MCSE, DCSE
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join:2003-12-31
Cumming, GA | reply to shellenberg
Re: To my friends "down south"...
Most states have ruled that VoIP cannot be regulated because it is a data service, not a phone service. |
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ABitCrazy
join:2003-07-14
Elkridge, MD
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to ropeguru
Re: But...
If they roll out true VoIP, I would expect this would be done in conjunction with an implementation of DOCSIS 1.1 features. They have already upgraded most systems with DOCSIS 1.1 headend equipment, still running like a DOCSIS 1.0 system. This means they can implement DOCSIS 1.1 service flows specifying QoS for VoIP, completely independent of QoS features supported by subscribers' routers. Consequently, upstream data rates will not necessarily need to be upgraded. |
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navalpatel
join:2003-07-28
Lubbock, TX
| The Exception
Presenting the brand new VoIP Phone service by Comcast! Call as much as you want and whereever you want for one low monthly rate!*
* - You are not to abuse the service by making as many calls as you want and you may not exceed 1 MB transfer monthly or 10 calls.
The Invisible Cap is EVIL! |
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J D McDorce
Premium
join:2001-12-29
Westland, MI | reply to techguyga
Re: To my friends "down south"...
Once their current tax revenues start fading from folks changing over from POTS to VoIP, I fully expect the States to change their tune. |
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Voyager2K2
join:2001-10-04
Wayne, PA
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to navalpatel
Re: The Exception
said by navalpatel :
Presenting the brand new VoIP Phone service by Comcast! Call as much as you want and whereever you want for one low monthly rate!*
* - You are not to abuse the service by making as many calls as you want and you may not exceed 1 MB transfer monthly or 10 calls.
The Invisible Cap is EVIL!
Amen Bro'
My thoughts exactly.
Just how much more junk does Comcast intend to try and push through their pipe?
Seems like they can't handle what they offer already. |
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raye
Premium
join:2000-08-14
Orange, CA | So now I will be getting SPAM from VoIP?
If Comcast does as good a job with securing and educating their customers on VoIP as they do with computers, I suspect I will be adding a block list of VoIP numbers to go along with my Comcast IP blacklist... |
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darthur2000
join:2002-01-02
Middletown, CT
clubs:
| 2006?
If it's anything like the roll out of broadband it'll be a long wait. Lets see, they first said it would be available in 1999 and it was actually available in my area in 2003 so I guess this will be an option for me by 2010 if past performance is any predictor of how this will play out. |
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