t757
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join:2000-12-28 | Wireless is hard
The only time my XP machines lose their wireless connection is when we use the cordless phone. :/
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compugeek
I love making my own beer.
Premium
join:2002-07-30
Pickerington, OH
 ·Insight VOIP
·Vonage
| Not going crazy after all
All this time I thought that I was going crazy... I have a couple of laptops that I can site right next to my AP or Router and there will be 100% signal strength then all the sudden XP says the connection was dropped, a couple of seconds later it comes right back. It is even worse if I have WEP enabled.
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bartruji
join:2003-04-27
Tempe, AZ
clubs: | Hu?
"It indicates that you've associated with an access point. It is possible for you to be associated without having (Internet) connectivity," said Shai Guday, a Microsoft wireless group program manager.
...WTF? |
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Owlbet
Ignite the Ice
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join:2002-09-24
Palmer, AK
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| Wi-Fi Mystery Disconnects
To borrow a lyric from a Brooks & Dunn song...Deny, Deny, Deny. Our mothers taught us as children to be truthful. I don't condone bashing any OS maker, but a modicum of truth given to users goes a long way toward keeping those users. Most people will patiently wait if Microsoft has a problem, acknowledges it, and goes about fixing it. Sugar-coating, denying responsibility, or even worse, saying nothing, will only further alienate users of the Wireless Zero Configuration service.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | It does happen
But not too often. I expect to see it "disappear" with a new patch...without any explaination or admission of cause.
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technick
Premium
join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA
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Re: Not going crazy after all
Dude I feel your pain, I formated my laptop cause I was having the problem, and sure enough it came right back. I felt like a @#$@#% after all that, and backing up all my mp3's, and pirated divx movies just to waste time. It really sucks, but its M$.
Another thing that drives me crazy is when the connection is dropped, and it comes back up without an ip address, just the default 169 bullcrap, even though I have great signal. To fix this, it requires you to reboot, and cross your fingers.
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3SGTE
ST215W
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join:2000-11-23
there
clubs: | Intel Pro set utility
Mine was flaky using the Win XP software.
I changed to the supplied Intel adapter software, all is good now.
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BIGMIKE
Premium
join:2002-06-07
Westminster, CA | reply to Owlbet
Re: Wi-Fi Mystery Disconnects
Is it only windows xp that have the problem or Linux or windows 2000? |
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kfsutops
Premium
join:2002-08-19
Brandon, FL
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| reply to compugeek
Re: Not going crazy after all
said by compugeek  :
All this time I thought that I was going crazy... I have a couple of laptops that I can site right next to my AP or Router and there will be 100% signal strength then all the sudden XP says the connection was dropped, a couple of seconds later it comes right back. It is even worse if I have WEP enabled.
Geek
I have had the same problem on my nephew' computer. His computer runs windows xp pro. It's just erratic and somewhat annoying. He doesn't use it too much, so it's one of the annoyances we deal with.
There are also issues with the zero wireless configuration if you have or do install software that came with the wireless card. XP doesn't like someone else's software for some reason. If you disable windows zero wireless, you're supposed to be able to use other software, but I don't believe it. I think it's still running somewhere in the background.
The funny thing is that my niece's computer (same room) has windows 2000, uses the software that came with the very same wireless card and never drops a bit. Never an issue.
I've always figured it was xp or something, but who wants to call Microsoft when there solution will always be to call the vendor. |
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Tomek
Premium
join:2002-01-30
Brooklyn, NY
·Packet8
| reply to 3SGTE
Chipset compatibilty and drivers
I was annoyed by windows zero configuration. (What does zero stands for). I was forced to use it when crappy DLINK driver didn't work. Now I'm using Fujitsu Atheros driver and works OK, much better than windows zero and dlink.
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FutureMon
OW My Eyes
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join:2000-10-05
Colorado Springs, CO
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Re: Wireless is hard
My buddy comes over to my house with his XP laptop that has built-in wireless. My laptop is running Win98 and a PCMCIA D-Link card.
The two laptops can be sitting right next to each other, mine streaming audio and video, his sitting in IRC, and he'll lose his connection randomly while mine hums along quite fine.
To me, that sounds like an XP driver problem.
Funny thing is, my D-Link signal strength indicator would sometimes say "Not connected" and yet I could still browse and stream.
- FM
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gatzdon
join:2002-10-25
Lake Zurich, IL
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What was aggravating me the most was not just the sudden loss of connectivity, but the inability for the laptop to properly request an IP address from the DHCP server after it happened.
At least this now explains why I could get a working connection some times and other times a non-working connection even though all the settings appear the same. |
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sandhill
join:2003-07-01
Joshua Tree, CA
|  reply to kfsutops
Dealing with this issue right now!
Dell Inspiron Laptop, new. Installed Linksys 54G card. Worked great for about 2 weeks. One morning the laptop gets turned on and it can't connect right away. Takes it over a minute, and it's on and off all day, all by itself. The activity LED on the PCCArd appears to have long gaps of no connectivity during large file transfers. Even if I turn off all security on my WRTG54S router and turn SSID on, the Dell Laptop only 'sees' an available signal part of the time, this all the while the laptop is 4 feet from the router.
I have been going crazy trying to troubleshoot this. GAD! Hope MS owns up to this, and offers a fix. BTW, this same card in a Win98se laptop is rock solid. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
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| reply to Tomek
Re: Chipset compatibilty and drivers
said by Tomek :
I was annoyed by windows zero configuration.
I don't like how the Windows Tablet PC driver makes WEP so difficult to implement. As a result, I can't run WEP on my access point because Windows won't let me enter the key. Hopefully no one will sniff out my MAC addresses lol.
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tadmaz
join:2002-05-30
Mount Prospect, IL | ...
Never had a problem with xp and wireless. |
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Nerdtalker
Working Hard, Or Hardly Working?
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join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ
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Re: Wireless is hard
said by FutureMon :
To me, that sounds like an XP driver problem.
I think so, I've got 2 laptops with WIFI and never even knew this was a problem...
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philburg2
join:2003-04-11
Seabrook, NH
| reply to t757
Have you tried adjusting your channel to say 11 instead of 1? I hear that cordless phones run on the 1 channel, so change your wireless change with your software if you can.
As a netgear wireless user, I've known that wireless zero is a POS and needed to be turned off with help from ppl in the forums here. |
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DHRacer
Fire Survivor
join:2000-10-10
Lake Arrowhead, CA
·Charter Pipeline
·Verizon west (ex G..
| reply to Nerdtalker
So, if you go into the Services Manager and turn off the Wireless Zero Config service, and then make sure it is set to disabled on startup, does this solve the problem?
If you turn this off, how do you install and configure Wireless Adapters?
I'd like to know, since some guys in my office have XP notebooks that do this, and I finally gave up trying to figure out why, and just told them to live with it.
If it can be fixed, I'll be estatic.
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Defcon888
Premium
join:2003-07-22
San Bruno, CA
·AT&T Yahoo
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to tadmaz
Re: ...
said by tadmaz :
Never had a problem with xp and wireless.
Same here.
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jlarem
join:2001-12-03
Charlotte, NC
·Windstream
| reply to tadmaz
I had a problem when I updaded window xp with the patch discussed in this intel document. I updated both the xp patch and the driver but still had the problem. Rolled back the update and the driver and no more problems.
»www.intel.com/support/network/wi···d944.htm |
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