homeshark
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Saint Petersburg, FL | what?
mmhmmm i dont get it |
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Dennis
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quote:
Earthlink was in essence praised for standing in a street and pointing to a mugging.... .
God I love the honesty on this site 
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
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| Dang, I do love it too. I tried their tool and then used Spybot and ADaware to clean which their tool doesn't. 
Don't forget that Dell is doing the same thing.
Pointing at the SPYware and then leaving the end users with "the finger", as it were, and not pointing further to actual solutions plus any of the ways of cleaning it off users PCs when they call for help.
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Sparrow
Crystal Sky
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said by Dennis  :
quote:
Earthlink was in essence praised for standing in a street and pointing to a mugging.... .
God I love the honesty on this site
That's what BBR is here for.
Many people have long suspected the corporate world is creating infections just to cure. Here is just one recent thread from our »Security Forum:
»Could PC makers be creating all of these virus's
Many utilities claim to remove various pieces of malware, when in fact they leave traces all over the registry and in file folders, where an average user will never look. Some registry clean up utilities do not find the entries either, and sifting manually through the registry is the only sure way to find MOST of the misses.
Many software product traces are left in HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID and other keys in the registry. In order to find these leftover "traces," one would need to sift through almost every CLSID to detect them, and then may not find the leftovers, because the corps are wise enough to give "clueless" additional names to these entries.
BAH! 
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Schnook
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join:2004-04-12 | Corporate Hypocrite...
...is redundundant. |
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Dennis
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Re: HA!
I completely agree!
I've always suspected anti-virus companies really do nothing to fight virus's, just stem the tide.
it's like a symbiotic relationship? Why kill your host and source of revenue?
Just like with the telephone and telemarketing, online companies are going to learn they can be the cause and solution of the problem and profit on both fronts.
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ftcnt
join:2004-03-05
Toronto, ON | reply to Schnook
Re: Corporate Hypocrite...
The article presents a strong argument that corporations are influencing legislation that favor their interests over those of pc users. Sad  |
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Taranis
join:2001-12-06
Mount Vernon, WA | agreed
That's typical of the way things are done nowadays. This is just one example of legislation to protect the corporate bottom line, at the expense of everyday citizens. |
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Twilight6502
join:2003-08-12
Westlake, OH
|  EarthLink is also posting bad information
From EarthLink's site:
"Adware cookies are pieces of software that Web sites store on your hard drive when you visit a site. Some cookies exist just to save you time-for example, when you check a box for a Web site to remember your password on your computer."
Cookies are not pieces of software! They are plain text files that cannot be executed, and can only be read and updated by the Web browser. Companies that provide false information in "public service" messages are making people paranoid about the wrong things, while managing to make themselves look like idiots.
I guess that's what happens when you let the marketing department write technical content. |
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KeepOnRockin
Music Lover Forever
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Beaverton, OR
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| said by Twilight6502 :
From EarthLink's site:
"Adware cookies are pieces of software that Web sites store on your hard drive when you visit a site. Some cookies exist just to save you time-for example, when you check a box for a Web site to remember your password on your computer."
Cookies are not pieces of software! They are plain text files that cannot be executed, and can only be read and updated by the Web browser. Companies that provide false information in "public service" messages are making people paranoid about the wrong things, while managing to make themselves look like idiots.
I guess that's what happens when you let the marketing department write technical content.
lol. That sounds like non-informed people talking again. That's like the news still calling Napster a "web site". Yes, Napster does have a website, but the program itself is an application. P2P applications are just "sites" to the news |
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TechieZero
Tools Are Using Me
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join:2002-01-25
Wesley Chapel, FL
| reply to Twilight6502
said by Twilight6502 :
From EarthLink's site:
"Adware cookies are pieces of software that Web sites store on your hard drive when you visit a site. Some cookies exist just to save you time-for example, when you check a box for a Web site to remember your password on your computer."
Cookies are not pieces of software! They are plain text files that cannot be executed, and can only be read and updated by the Web browser. Companies that provide false information in "public service" messages are making people paranoid about the wrong things, while managing to make themselves look like idiots.
I guess that's what happens when you let the marketing department write technical content.
Yeah seriously, it's just data. Why someone had to call it something cute like a cookie was just dumb. |
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sivran
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| said by TechieZero :
Yeah seriously, it's just data. Why someone had to call it something cute like a cookie was just dumb.
So what would you have them be called? "Reminders" to remind the webserver of some data it had set for you? Something worse to conjure up even more fears? Just plain "files"? :P
The "cute name" thing has been going on since the birth of programming.
Cookies are delicious delicacies.
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angryinch
join:2004-04-01 | "AOL is planning their own spyware removal tool as an added service to subscribers."
Still waiting patiently to see if AOL's spyware remover will wipe AOL itself off the drive.... |
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Transmaster
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join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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| This is why....
I like SpyBot Search&Destroy. The fact Ad-Aware regularly sends nasty grams to the SpyBot crew over the fact Spybot scans and deletes files in Ad-Aware's guarantied files means SpyBot doesn't really care who they hack off, if it is spyware it doesn't matter were it is it's gone.
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Rogue Wolf
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join:2003-08-12
Troy, NY
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|  Imagine if others started doing this sort of thing
"I'm sorry, Mr. Smith, but I've run a thorough analysis... you have a rare form of cancer, and if it's not treated soon it could prove to be fatal."
"Oh my God! Doctor, what kind of treatment do I need?"
"I dunno."
"But... then can you direct me to a doctor who can treat this?"
"Sorry, can't help you there."
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footballdude
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Re: Corporate Hypocrite...
said by Schnook :
...is redundundant.
So, you're saying that anyone who is involved in any way with any kind of incorporated business is somehow a hypocrite? Who are you, Karl Marx? |
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TechieZero
Tools Are Using Me
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join:2002-01-25
Wesley Chapel, FL |  reply to sivran
Re: EarthLink is also posting bad information
How about just calling it DATA... |
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rchandra
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said by Karl Bode:
Why won't they remove the spyware? Perhaps it's a fear of impacting the functionality of some applications, which require certain adware files remain intact to run properly (which their technicians must then support). It's also likely the company didn't want to piss off litigation-happy marketing companies who are at the heart of an incestuous and profitable marketing orgy.
That's precisely it. I liken this sort of thing to Scott Richter suing entities like SpamCop and SpamHaus. Gee, let's take a stand, only to be mowed down by your adversaries in trumped up lawsuits. (uhhh....Scott? Your target, if anything, should be the millions of sysops who chose to refuse to accept your mail, not the people who simply put together an interesting list.)
It's also a support liability. Sort of like you mention, the instant QuickBooks or Word doesn't work, they'll be gunning for the spyware and adware remover authors/publishers faster than you can say, "Jackie Chiles."
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Schnook
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join:2004-04-12 | reply to footballdude
Re: Corporate Hypocrite...
You'll learn, about the time you dry out behind your ears.
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Lethal8472
join:2004-02-24
Loretto, KY
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Re: Imagine if others started doing this sort of thing
I agree. These people are hyping up this magic spyware tool that will fix all your spyware problems forever, and all it does is point it out. Not many average users could manually remove spy or ad ware themselves. |
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