woody7
Premium
join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA | Hmmmmmm
If people are stupid enough to believe these twits.............
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Maggs
Premium
join:2002-11-29
Woodside, NY | Fiber makes it cheaper
Fiber makes things cheaper, that is why Cox is mad. They would have to compete on service and price, if the muni was up and running.
Fiber would also give cheap connectivity to local businesses wishing to setup in the area. |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
| people are stupid
Muni Broadband won't be wire tapped any more than any private company. The government is already forcing ISPs to comply and a lot of them have been setting their services up to be tappable so they won't have to do the work later when the government forces everyone to be tappable. I still don't get why people would vote against competition. I reiterate, people are stupid. |
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Droids? What Droids?
Of course Bell South and Cox don't want a muni fiber system. Just like the local liquor store owner doesn't want a new store open across the street, and the crack dealer on corner "X" doesn't want another crack dealer on his corner.
To listen to Bell South and Cox, and believe ANYTHING they have to say in such a forum is to believe the above mentioned crack dealer when he tells you his rock, when smoked properly, had the "RDA" of 11 essential vitamins and minerals.
What a crock |
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TheMetrix
R.T.F.M. - P.E.B.K.A.C
Premium
join:2002-06-15
Utica, MI
clubs: | Tapping Fiber
Fiber is only tappable at the source or the destination. Unless the line is broken.
Those twits are grabbing at straws to try and save their collective assess. |
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Kilroy
Premium,MVM
join:2002-11-21
Ann Arbor, MI
 ·WOW Internet and C..
| reply to woody7
Re: Hmmmmmm
Why, they are telling the truth as long as they have control over your service you're going to have problems. With fiber you're just going to have them faster. 
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technick
Premium
join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA
| reply to woody7
quote:
According to BellSouth executive Bill Oliver, fiber to the home does not provide better telecom services to people - only better "transport" of information (see local report). Both Bellsouth and Cox are busy trying to convince citizens of Lafayette, Louisiana that they don't need to develop a competing municipal broadband system in conjunction with their local utility. One Cox official went so far as to suggest a local government backed fiber system would mean local residents would be spied on by Uncle Sam.
What freaking idiots, this is just another reason to go ahead and push for your own muni broadband. These large companies promise fiber in one breath, and in the next breath they tell you that fiber is not worth it. This is pure bull crap, and someone needs to tell these idiots this. I wonder if I can find Bill Oliver's email address.
Sure fiber is transport, but it's a very large transport for tons of better and faster services into the home.
Freaking idiots....
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
00000
clubs: | great title.....
use the forks luke. |
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batageek
Slave To The Duopoly
Premium
join:2003-01-25
1 edit | reply to woody7
Re: Hmmmmmm
"Search your soul Luke...You know it to be true. Bell South copper has self healing midichlorians built in so that the force is actually part of our network...."
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!"
Nope...no future in that fiber stuff....
See »www.tricitybroadband.com/misc/la···1904.htm
It seems even SBC has figured out this fiber thing might have merit...
Lying liars......may Jar Jar Binks come live with them.
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Darwin
Not From Around Here
Premium
join:2003-05-29
Carbondale, IL
clubs: | reply to morbo
Re: great title.....
The Force can have a strong influence on a weak mind...  |
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GNXPower
Got Boost?
Premium
join:2003-12-18
Huntington Beach, CA | Yeah right
They don't want fiber just as much as they like constant cable price increases. Cox should spent less money lobbying and simply compete on their MERITS.
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dg2
Premium
join:2004-01-22
Lowell, AR
·Cox HSI
| How silly of me...
[blank stare]
I DON'T WANT FIBER.
AND THESE ARE NOT THE DROIDS I'M LOOKING FOR.
I LOVE COX EXPRESS...[/blank stare]
[shake head]
Oh, wait, that wasn't what he said...
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rolande
Certifiable
Premium,Mod
join:2002-05-24
Powell, OH
clubs:
Host:
Linksys
AT&T Midwest
| reply to TheMetrix
Re: Tapping Fiber
Ummm...actually you can passively tap fiber in the middle with the insulation still intact. There are special device that most ordinary citizens can not get their hands on that allow you to bend a fiber strand in such a way that you can actually pick up the light signal through the insulation at just the right angle. But that is for your regular fiber patch cords and not the burial grade cable. Go figure....the NSA and your government dollars hard at work Also the NSA actually has special OTDR equipment that is tuned to detect if a passive tap is ever placed on a strand of fiber. There must always be a counter-measure to every new big-brother technology they come up with.
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana | reply to Kilroy
Re: Hmmmmmm
Meanwhile, Verizon quitely proceeds laying FTTP. Who is on the wrong side of history here? |
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neal_fischer
join:2004-06-07
San Jose, CA
| reply to dg2
Re: How silly of me...
This is called the Mushroom Theory of management:
To Grow the very best Mushrooms (or Cox Customers?) Keep them in the Dark and Feed Them Manure.
That's the Nice way to express it
- Neal |
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lesopp
join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL | reply to woody7
Re: Hmmmmmm
Of course they are, they vote for democrats don't they? |
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kb6183
Oh The Corruption
Premium
join:2000-09-27
Virginia Beach, VA | reply to morbo
Re: great title.....
Crap, laughed so hard at the title I spit coffee on myself. |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
| And the Real reason is....
Bellsouth has a bunch of empty copper wire if they let the Muni's string fiber their copper will even be more empty, thus generating even less cash flow. What I fail to understand is why doesn't the baby bells go into partnerships with these Muni's. Something like ok we will install the system under a contract from the Muni. The contract would call for the Telco to maintain the system for
X number of years, powering it and then let the city, and it citizens, do what ever it wants for ISP's. Is this to simple:)
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SquareSlinky
Premium
join:2004-05-25
Tampa, FL
·Verizon FIOS
 ·ViaTalk
| Say no to faster, cheaper service!
Of course they would give 100 reasons why the municipality wouldn't want to do that. The proof of why you wouldn't want Comcast or Bellsouth would be evident when the first bill came in the mail.
Cities need to find other ways to earn money. Maybe this is a way not to raise property taxes over and over. (at least I would wish for that) |
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shad-o
@cox-internet.co
| What to do?
I live in Lafayette Louisiana and have a front row seat to this situation as it unfolds. I can't tell y9u how depressing it is to see this happening. The sad thing is that I believe that Cox and Bellsouth will win in the end. Lafayette has a large amount of un-informed people that don't understand the signifigance of what's happening here.
We have two major competitors working together to keep their own wallets fat using mis-leading, dishonest, and malicious information to sway the public's opinion. Isn't it weird they work together when the progit margins are in jepordy?! Heh, guess not.
I see little chance of a Municipal FTTH project actually happening here. I can hope, but it won't be enough. I sent letters to the local papers, television stations, and reps, so I guess I am doing my part. I also attended the meetings being held concerning this situation. I got asked to leave last time because I would refute and/or address everything that COx or BellSouth stated that I knew was blatantly wrong. Maybe a tad too emotional and correct for them? |
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