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Comments on news posted 2004-07-01 19:00:37: Speakeasy will next week announce a new nationwide "naked DSL" product - or dry DSL on a dedicated loop that doesn't require a local voice component. ..

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DarkElf

join:2002-06-03
Topeka, KS
clubs:
Yeah, right.

$55.95 a month? Yeah, right.

[sarcasm]

People will be running to get this service.

[/sarcasm]


USAOwnz
RIP dadkins
Premium
join:2003-11-15
P.R.C.
clubs:
Meh Speakeasy isn't exactly the best provider, in terms of cost.


Quip
Premium
join:2003-03-18
Riverside, CT

reply to DarkElf
said by DarkElf See Profile:
$55.95 a month? Yeah, right.

[sarcasm]

People will be running to get this service.

[/sarcasm]

Depends on how much that telephone line costs you, if it costs $30/mo it's like getting $25/mo DSL.

Eek2121
Lovin Verizon FIOS

join:2002-10-12
Flanders, NJ
erm, right now i pay $80.81 for dsl and unlimited long distance phone service. The dsl is only $29.99/mo for 1.5/384. Technically i could downgrade to a $7.00 toll line and still have the 29.99/mo offer. Speakeasy doesn't work with vz anyways.


DarkElf

join:2002-06-03
Topeka, KS
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reply to Quip
Yeah, but for Naked DSL? Why would you be paying the use of the telephone line with the DSL if its is being provided without the voice component. Or am I missing something here?

$55.95 a month seems unreasonable to me. Maybe because I only pay $39 for my cable service.

Oh well.


netwire
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join:2001-04-27
Mooresboro, NC
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Sounds great!

I'm all for this, look how much cash you could save. Get naked dsl, and no more must you dish out big bucks to the telco - just get a nice voip provider and your all set. I hope they will offer this service in my area, as compared to what I'm paying now for voice and data services this is a bargain!
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LooseCannon

join:2001-05-14
San Luis Obispo, CA
reply to Quip
Re: Yeah, right.

This is a good deal. If your land line costs just over $20 and your DSL is like 30, then thats 50 plus all of the fees and that phone company throws on then it would prob be a bit cheaper.


jinjimbob
Troy Mcclure

join:2001-11-13
not a bargin really

For these speeds with SBC its $27 per month for the DSL, plus $20 for the line, plus tax = less than $55.

You might aswell get DSL and a phone line from SBC, and never plug your phone line in.


djdanska
Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Glen Ellyn, IL
clubs:
reply to DarkElf
Re: Yeah, right.

Unreasonable since i pay $52.95 for 4300/384. LoL


DracoFelis
Premium
join:2003-06-15

reply to DarkElf
said by DarkElf See Profile:
$55.95 a month? Yeah, right.
Actually that could be a very good deal in some cases!

For example, I pay that much per month for my DSL (which is also 1.5meg/256k), and I'm required to keep my POTS line (with CenturyTel) to qualify (and the POTS line itself is around $25)! If this becomes an option in my area, I might consider dropping POTS, and just go with VoIP totally (I'm already using VoIP for LD). And what about my dad's place? His only current BroadBand option, is cable modem service (at almost that much per month), with a minuscule "hard limit" of 3GB/month of data (and 2 cents per megabyte after that)! This Speakeasy service is "unlimited" as long as you are "using it reasonably" (i.e. you don't use up all your month's bandwidth, simply downloading a Linux install CD set).

And remember, "naked DSL" is likely to be a little more expensive (maybe an extra $5-$15 per month) than more traditional "line sharing", as you don't have the POTS service paying for part of the wire. The cable companies do the same, by charging a little more if you order "cable internet" without also paying for "cable TV". IMHO this is all well and good, because this helps keep the services profitable, while still giving consumers options. If someone doesn't like paying a little more for "naked DSL", they still have the option to buy a POTS phone + DSL bundle (or cable TV + cable internet bundle) somewhere.


AWS
Long Time Gone

join:2000-07-01
Joliet, IL

reply to jinjimbob
Re: not a bargin really

They are not the first to offer this. Lightning Bolt Technology announced they offered it last week.

»NEW ADSL option, without voice service
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Sefirato
Turambar, Master of Fate
Premium
join:2002-05-08
Anchorage, AK
reply to jinjimbob
And I pay 27.95 per month for 3000/256 from Adelphia. And that's just for the cable internet - I don't have their cable TV service at all. I'm glad I got Adelphia instead of Speakeasy / anything with DSL.

neftv

join:2000-10-01
Broomall, PA
 Dry DSL

What's the point?? If you end up having to pay for the line with increased cost within DSL Vs having a pots line. Now if the prices stated included a reasonable local/long distance VoIP service that's another story.

edelite

join:2004-05-24
US

Hmmm....

I agree with the general consensus of this forum: Dry-pair isn't worth that much!!! Lower the price to like $30-40 bucks and maybe some people will jump on. I personally would jump on if it was $40/mo cause then I could port my number to a VoIP and get free from those stupid telephone companies.

The real question is WHERE DID THEY GET DRY-PAIR FROM!!?!? (the Telephone companies obviously) but the last time I checked, Verizon wasn't offering Dry-Pair DSL (even though their Press Releases and interviews contradicted that).

cbrain

join:2000-05-21
Silver Spring, MD
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What will I do with the money I save!

I just ordered an economy phone line so I could go back to DSL. Verizon 1.5/384 DSL = $29.95, misc. fees about $3 and line without outgoing calls $13 - totaling $46. Just think of what I can do with the savings!

On the other hand in '99 I paid around $70 a month for Covad 1.5/384 DSL on a "naked line" and it was almost perfect for 2 years.

It's a good start. Give them some time to get it right.


nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
Premium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
·Cox HSI
·Speakeasy

reply to DarkElf
Re: Yeah, right.

said by DarkElf See Profile:
$55.95 a month? Yeah, right.

[sarcasm]

People will be running to get this service.

[/sarcasm]

Depends on whether this is the same as many of their other services: multiple static IPs and a ToS that guarantees that you can run servers on a residential service (e.g., their OSDN service comes with 8 IPs). In other words, if this is something like a SOHO service. If so, and you're someone that looks for that type of service, it's a bargain - still dirt cheap compared to other dedicated line solutions (T-1, SDSL, etc.).

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jap
Premium
join:2003-08-10
038xx
·RoadRunner Cable

reply to AWS
Re: not a bargin really

Umm, the article contains the same statement & link. If you go to LBT's webpage you'll see the 2 ADSL-shared packages only offer 128k up (they say "K" - but I'm sure they mean "k"). It costs 110$ start-up if you successfully self-install, 310$ if you don't. The dedicated ADSL is 1.5mbps/384k @ 65$/mo & 220$ startup. Does anyone find these offerings tempting? Even in my limited choice, overpriced market I have 3000/256 from Adelphia for 58$ @ -228$ startup due to 20$/mo for 6mos promo. I'm looking forward to the details on Speakeasy's offering.

RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest

reply to jinjimbob
Let's see now...(opening phone bill).

POTS line:      $17.71 (total with fees and taxes)
1536/384 DSL: $31.43 (including "FUSF")
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TOTAL $49.14

I have the functionality of the POTS line if I choose to use it.

Speakeasy's "Naked Emperor DSL": $56 for 1536/256 before taxes and whatever fees they will end up charging.

Doesn't seem like much more than marketing hype. Expensive marketing hype. For that price you can get 3000/384 from SBC and others and still have the POTS line to use...

neftv

join:2000-10-01
Broomall, PA
·Broadvox Direct

reply to cbrain
Re: What will I do with the money I save!

In getting completely rid of Verizon here is another example (rounding up)
Comcast cable (true speed) 3.0/256 43.00
Local channels basic service 10.50
VoIP service (what I have*) 13.00
Total 69.50
plus Taxes I'm sure.

Presently
Verizon budget service with taxes about 17.00
VoIP (what I have*) 13.00
Covad Telesurfer plus 40.00
Total 70.00

If I go with any other Dry pair option say
Speakeasy dry pair 55.00
VoIP 13.00
total 68.00
Plus taxes on this
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Now tell me which one is the most band for the buck?

*VoIP is 500 anytime mins and very good international rates to me.

SpeedJunky

join:2001-08-14
Glen Cove, NY

Nickel and Dimed!

I'm currently a Speakeasy's 1.5/768 DSL customer with local service through Verizon...

I called today to ask about ditching Verizon and use their naked service and they told me that there is an additional $6 a month charge not to mention $99 installation fee.

If you do the math your not saving anything and in fact your paying more money if you chose to use a VOIP carrier like vonage...
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