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Comments on news posted 2004-07-04 11:40:12: With Windows XP Service Pack 2 set for release this summer, our Security forum users wonder if it's going to be enough to change the negative perception of Microsoft's security practices. ..

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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..

join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
Should have done it from the start...

They should have locked it down sufficiently from the start. But they got hit anyway. And instead of being proactive, they have been reactive for years. I don't think they will recover from the bad PR.

puritan

elitedreamr
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I won't be the first to get it!!

I have to say, I won't be one of the first to download SP2 when it's released...There is no telling how many NEW problems it will cause. I think I'll wait a month or so after it's released and see.


Rhobite
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Someone should mention

That this article is about Windows XP, in case you're wondering. Microsoft has loads of products, just saying SP2 is meaningless.
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pnh102
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reply to wentlanc
Re: Should have done it from the start...

said by wentlanc See Profile:
They should have locked it down sufficiently from the start.
Microsoft did just that with Windows Server 2003. You have to explicitly enable each Internet-related service. The only thing I don't like is that you still need to reboot the OS after doing certain patches. That kind of downtime is unacceptable in a production environment. Oh well, serves you right for going with such an OS.
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JimF

join:2003-06-15
Allentown, PA

reply to wentlanc
I just found out that Firefox 0.9 doesn't allow some sites through the pop-up blocker, even though they are on the allowed list. This is not exactly a fatal flaw, but when you add in the web sites (relatively few) that don't display properly, most people will stick with IE. Why trade a headache for an upset stomach? I don't think Bill needs to worry about his stock price too much.


Neil
Stop All The Downloadin

join:2003-08-20
New York, NY
who cares?

I don't understand what the big deal is if people don't want to use IE. Who cares? Whether people use Firefox, or IE, or Lynx, Microsoft doesn't lose anything either way.


ape

join:2002-05-10
Chicago, IL
reply to Rhobite
Re: Someone should mention

The new IE browser is a lot safer. Now it displays a msg bar if a site you going to is trying to do any changes to your system.


gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall

join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA

reply to Rhobite
said by Rhobite See Profile:
That this article is about Windows XP, in case you're wondering. Microsoft has loads of products, just saying SP2 is meaningless.

Also, MS isnt stopping at SP2 as reported here and elswhere. They are putting the IE team back together.
IE 7, bout time.
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wbhigdon

join:2003-10-29
Bessemer, AL
SP2 but what about W2K

Well I have 80 or 90 WXP boxes. They'll get
SP2. However W2K is still a supported product.
What about my 30 or 40 W2K Boxes???

It's not like we're asking for new features
just security updates.. Sheesh.


not quite right
I'm not cool enough to be a Mac person

join:2001-06-23
Puyallup, WA

reply to elitedreamr
Re: I won't be the first to get it!!

said by elitedreamr See Profile:
I have to say, I won't be one of the first to download SP2 when it's released...There is no telling how many NEW problems it will cause. I think I'll wait a month or so after it's released and see.

In contrast I've using SP2 RC2 for weeks now with no problems what so ever, it's been very stable! YMMV
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pnh102
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reply to wbhigdon
Re: SP2 but what about W2K

said by wbhigdon See Profile:
What about my 30 or 40 W2K Boxes???
Looks like you gotta go purchase 30 or 40 WinXP licenses


Mactron
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May not have to wait for Longhorn.

Suse 9.1 Personal ISO is now available. Down loaded it, burnt it, installed it. Looks pretty good so far. If the Linux community keeps going at this rate, there will be no further need for MS Windows, sooner than we may think. Could the next widely installed OS in this household be Linux !?? The Yast Control center works well, installs and updates smoothly. I've been using MS since DOS 3.1 through XP, (NOT ME) . The time to say good bye is looming ?
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wbhigdon

join:2003-10-29
Bessemer, AL

reply to pnh102
Re: SP2 but what about W2K

said by pnh102 See Profile:
said by wbhigdon See Profile:
What about my 30 or 40 W2K Boxes???
Looks like you gotta go purchase 30 or 40 WinXP licenses

Well in the mean time... I guess i'll turn us into a
FireFox Shop.. IE is so easy to manage via AD.


brandon
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reply to Mactron
Re: May not have to wait for Longhorn.

said by Mactron See Profile:
Suse 9.1 Personal ISO is now available. Down loaded it, burnt it, installed it. Looks pretty good so far. If the Linux community keeps going at this rate, there will be no further need for MS Windows, sooner than we may think. Could the next widely installed OS in this household be Linux !?? The Yast Control center works well, installs and updates smoothly. I've been using MS since DOS 3.1 through XP, (NOT ME) . The time to say good bye is looming ?

The heck does this have to do with the release of SP2?


storm64007
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Freeport, NY


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Re: I won't be the first to get it!!

said by not quite right See Profile:
said by elitedreamr See Profile:
I have to say, I won't be one of the first to download SP2 when it's released...There is no telling how many NEW problems it will cause. I think I'll wait a month or so after it's released and see.

In contrast I've using SP2 RC2 for weeks now with no problems what so ever, it's been very stable! YMMV
-T

Same here.No problems at all.Very smooth and like all the new security features.


CO_Chris
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reply to JimF
Re: Should have done it from the start...

I just found out that Firefox 0.9 doesn't allow some sites through the pop-up blocker, even though they are on the allowed list. This is not exactly a fatal flaw, but when you add in the web sites (relatively few) that don't display properly, most people will stick with IE. Why trade a headache for an upset stomach? I don't think Bill needs to worry about his stock price too much.

you got to be kidding right? I will never go back to IE for the S%$%^T that MS makes . Firefox0.9.1 has been the best yet and all we have to look forward to is it getting better. I tell people every day do dump IE and for the most part 75% do and by far the Norm Best Buy shopper dont have a clue about how the internet works or what they need. I see it every day

I see people ask what's a firewall?
Do i really need Antivirus whats that do for me??
what is spam is that why i get all the pop ups? and if so how can i stop that? will spam blocker work?

just the Norm ??? i get every day


inteller
Sociopaths always win.

join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK

Advice

I think a lot of the FUDmongers around here need to install SP2 RC2 before mouthing off about how crappy XP is. SP2 is the frickin cat's meow. Besides the security (which I think is too strict BTW), the new Bluetooth support is the best thing I've ever seen. Like getting a new OS.


storm64007
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said by inteller See Profile:
I think a lot of the FUDmongers around here need to install SP2 RC2 before mouthing off about how crappy XP is. SP2 is the frickin cat's meow. Besides the security (which I think is too strict BTW), the new Bluetooth support is the best thing I've ever seen. Like getting a new OS.

Agreed. I think its a big step foward and really like sp2 rc2 in both security and stability.


Mike
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reply to inteller
Windows 98 will fix, EVERYTHING - 1997


antiphishing
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Wilkes Barre, PA


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Windows XP

Billion Bill should have fixed all these security issues/exploits before Microsoft released Windows XP Home and Professional editions.

It's a shame that people still haven't learned yet that anything Microsoft develops as far as software is always prone to problems. How many naive people who buy new computer from Dell or Gateway install critical updates , use a firewall or use some type of virus scan software. You can't just expect people to do regular maintenance on their computers on a daily basis. Hacker and spammers know this fact and will continue to find exploits in Microsoft products.



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