 wentlanc You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30 Maineville, OH | Should have done it from the start...
They should have locked it down sufficiently from the start. But they got hit anyway. And instead of being proactive, they have been reactive for years. I don't think they will recover from the bad PR.
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 elitedreamr Premium join:2003-06-24 Acworth, GA | I won't be the first to get it!!
I have to say, I won't be one of the first to download SP2 when it's released...There is no telling how many NEW problems it will cause. I think I'll wait a month or so after it's released and see. |
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  Rhobite Premium join:2002-02-24 Cambridge, MA clubs: | Someone should mention
That this article is about Windows XP, in case you're wondering. Microsoft has loads of products, just saying SP2 is meaningless. -- Jimmysquid.com - I take pictures. |
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  pnh102 Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD
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said by wentlanc : They should have locked it down sufficiently from the start.
Microsoft did just that with Windows Server 2003. You have to explicitly enable each Internet-related service. The only thing I don't like is that you still need to reboot the OS after doing certain patches. That kind of downtime is unacceptable in a production environment. Oh well, serves you right for going with such an OS. -- 9/11 was the best thing to happen to Michael Moore Win another one for the Gipper! Bush/Cheney 2004 |
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join:2003-06-15 Allentown, PA
| reply to wentlanc I just found out that Firefox 0.9 doesn't allow some sites through the pop-up blocker, even though they are on the allowed list. This is not exactly a fatal flaw, but when you add in the web sites (relatively few) that don't display properly, most people will stick with IE. Why trade a headache for an upset stomach? I don't think Bill needs to worry about his stock price too much. |
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  Neil Stop All The Downloadin
join:2003-08-20 New York, NY | who cares?
I don't understand what the big deal is if people don't want to use IE. Who cares? Whether people use Firefox, or IE, or Lynx, Microsoft doesn't lose anything either way. |
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  ape
join:2002-05-10 Chicago, IL | reply to Rhobite Re: Someone should mention
The new IE browser is a lot safer. Now it displays a msg bar if a site you going to is trying to do any changes to your system. |
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  gaforces United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07 Santa Cruz, CA
| reply to Rhobite said by Rhobite : That this article is about Windows XP, in case you're wondering. Microsoft has loads of products, just saying SP2 is meaningless.
Also, MS isnt stopping at SP2 as reported here and elswhere. They are putting the IE team back together. IE 7, bout time. -- Fiber Optics is the future of high-speed internet access. Stop by the BBR Fiber Optic Forum |
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join:2003-10-29 Bessemer, AL | SP2 but what about W2K
Well I have 80 or 90 WXP boxes. They'll get SP2. However W2K is still a supported product. What about my 30 or 40 W2K Boxes???
It's not like we're asking for new features just security updates.. Sheesh. |
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  not quite right I'm not cool enough to be a Mac person
join:2001-06-23 Puyallup, WA
| reply to elitedreamr Re: I won't be the first to get it!!
said by elitedreamr : I have to say, I won't be one of the first to download SP2 when it's released...There is no telling how many NEW problems it will cause. I think I'll wait a month or so after it's released and see.
In contrast I've using SP2 RC2 for weeks now with no problems what so ever, it's been very stable! YMMV -T |
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  pnh102 Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD
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said by wbhigdon : What about my 30 or 40 W2K Boxes???
Looks like you gotta go purchase 30 or 40 WinXP licenses  |
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  Mactron el camino Real Premium join:2001-12-16 CM94sv
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Suse 9.1 Personal ISO is now available. Down loaded it, burnt it, installed it. Looks pretty good so far. If the Linux community keeps going at this rate, there will be no further need for MS Windows, sooner than we may think. Could the next widely installed OS in this household be Linux !?? The Yast Control center works well, installs and updates smoothly. I've been using MS since DOS 3.1 through XP, (NOT ME) . The time to say good bye is looming ? -- Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. Aldous Huxley |
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join:2003-10-29 Bessemer, AL
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said by pnh102 : said by wbhigdon : What about my 30 or 40 W2K Boxes???
Looks like you gotta go purchase 30 or 40 WinXP licenses 
Well in the mean time... I guess i'll turn us into a FireFox Shop.. IE is so easy to manage via AD. |
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  brandon Some truth included in this post. Premium join:2003-03-31 Hurley, MS
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said by Mactron : Suse 9.1 Personal ISO is now available. Down loaded it, burnt it, installed it. Looks pretty good so far. If the Linux community keeps going at this rate, there will be no further need for MS Windows, sooner than we may think. Could the next widely installed OS in this household be Linux !?? The Yast Control center works well, installs and updates smoothly. I've been using MS since DOS 3.1 through XP, (NOT ME) . The time to say good bye is looming ?
The heck does this have to do with the release of SP2? |
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  storm64007 Premium join:2001-05-21 Freeport, NY
1 edit | reply to not quite right Re: I won't be the first to get it!!
said by not quite right : said by elitedreamr : I have to say, I won't be one of the first to download SP2 when it's released...There is no telling how many NEW problems it will cause. I think I'll wait a month or so after it's released and see.
In contrast I've using SP2 RC2 for weeks now with no problems what so ever, it's been very stable! YMMV -T
Same here.No problems at all.Very smooth and like all the new security features. |
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1 edit | reply to JimF Re: Should have done it from the start...
I just found out that Firefox 0.9 doesn't allow some sites through the pop-up blocker, even though they are on the allowed list. This is not exactly a fatal flaw, but when you add in the web sites (relatively few) that don't display properly, most people will stick with IE. Why trade a headache for an upset stomach? I don't think Bill needs to worry about his stock price too much.
you got to be kidding right? I will never go back to IE for the S%$%^T that MS makes . Firefox0.9.1 has been the best yet and all we have to look forward to is it getting better. I tell people every day do dump IE and for the most part 75% do and by far the Norm Best Buy shopper dont have a clue about how the internet works or what they need. I see it every day
I see people ask what's a firewall? Do i really need Antivirus whats that do for me?? what is spam is that why i get all the pop ups? and if so how can i stop that? will spam blocker work?
just the Norm ??? i get every day |
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  inteller Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08 Tulsa, OK
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I think a lot of the FUDmongers around here need to install SP2 RC2 before mouthing off about how crappy XP is. SP2 is the frickin cat's meow. Besides the security (which I think is too strict BTW), the new Bluetooth support is the best thing I've ever seen. Like getting a new OS. |
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  storm64007 Premium join:2001-05-21 Freeport, NY
1 edit | said by inteller : I think a lot of the FUDmongers around here need to install SP2 RC2 before mouthing off about how crappy XP is. SP2 is the frickin cat's meow. Besides the security (which I think is too strict BTW), the new Bluetooth support is the best thing I've ever seen. Like getting a new OS.
Agreed. I think its a big step foward and really like sp2 rc2 in both security and stability. |
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  Mike Premium,Mod join:2000-09-17 Pittsburgh, PA clubs:   | reply to inteller Windows 98 will fix, EVERYTHING - 1997 |
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  antiphishing Phishing Scam Terminator Premium join:2004-06-09 Wilkes Barre, PA
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Billion Bill should have fixed all these security issues/exploits before Microsoft released Windows XP Home and Professional editions.
It's a shame that people still haven't learned yet that anything Microsoft develops as far as software is always prone to problems. How many naive people who buy new computer from Dell or Gateway install critical updates , use a firewall or use some type of virus scan software. You can't just expect people to do regular maintenance on their computers on a daily basis. Hacker and spammers know this fact and will continue to find exploits in Microsoft products.
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