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| Why not?? We now have pre-emptive war in the U.S. Let's
bring a little of that logic to the local populace...
Of course, I feel I may have to engage in that type of
activity BECAUSE of the INDUCE Act. Hmmmm, does that now
make the INDUCE Act illegal and Hatch responsible?? Can
get some nice looping with this one....
Oh yea!! That feels GOOOOOD.
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Pre-Emptive law...you've got to be effing kidding me.
Yes he is following his his fellow republicans footsteps (Bush).
This is something you would expect from Republicans, and yet another (of the many) reasons Bush must be voted out, or this nonsense will continue to snowball. And I am serious.
There is no court that would rule what he wants as legal, but he is trying to make a law to bypass that. Kinda like what Bush does when he tries to pass laws. | |
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| If you look at the sponsors of the bill, you'll see it is BI-PARTISAN, meaning both Dems and Republicans drafted the bill and agree on the content.
Grow up and realize the Demacrats are not the friends of gen. x, y, or z.
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| Write your congressman and senator About how you feel about the 'INDUCE Act'. They'll listen to well thought out hand-written letters over emails or internet petitions.
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Canada | Re: Write your congressman and senator you seriously think the american government, that thinks everything not american is evil, will isten to the people they constantly tax, and send off to die, and sue the crap out of, will listen?
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clubs:  | Re: Write your congressman and senator Finally, a constructive post. People can also visit www.congress.org. They have a zip code look up and allow you to send free emails or pay for a hand delivered letter.
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Springfield, VA
| Queasy,
While I sometimes like to complain, your solution will be more constructive, though probably non-productive. I do not ever remember any of my so-called representatives changing their minds as a result of my contacting them.
If you are involved in politics, have you ever considered the thought that real change will only come if we get involved long before the general election; by the general election it is often a matter of choosing someone we might consider to be the lesser evil. In other words, we need to get the kind of person we would like to represent us to win in the primaries, before it is too late and we are once again stuck with two people running who we don't really like. | |
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Jason Levine
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USA | Re: Should put horns and a pitchfork on that picture Same with bats (goodbye to Baseball). Come to think of it, rocks should be illegal too. Let's start a rock collection squad and round up all of those illegal rocks!  | |
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Cars should be illegal, they can be used to kill people and rob banks.
Let's not forget planes... | |
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Canada | Re: Should put horns and a pitchfork on that picture letter openers, they are a weapon, wow like being in school, "zero tolerance", then why can i have a pencil, paper, binder, bookbag, tape, glue, ect, ect, ect, they can be used as a weapon, why not ban them ? | |
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clubs: | Re: Should put horns and a pitchfork on that pictu Yeah...
Why don't we all graze like herds of bipedes... We'd be less of a threat to the social elite. | |
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join:2002-12-15
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clubs: | Re: Should put horns and a pitchfork on that pictu Because then they will come out with a law for preemptive thinking just thinking about punching some one lands you in a jail cell.
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clubs: | Re: Should put horns and a pitchfork on that pictu LOL, you know, I was thinking the EXACT same thing! | |
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join:2001-09-27
Dayton, OH
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| said by Dennis :
Cars should be illegal, they can be used to kill people and rob banks.
Cars are highly regulated.
Perhaps you'd like the Internet as tightly regulated as the automobile.
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join:2002-12-15
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clubs: | Re: Should put horns and a pitchfork on that picture If it would solve the internet's idiocy problem sure why not.
Then again.... driving has those too. Ok nix the idea.
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| JonIrenicas
join:2002-06-22
| Cars were created and are used almost completely for transportation. p2p networks were created for and are used almost completely for piracy purposes. Other purposes is for distributing Kiddy porn. Very little legal sharing and downloading goes on in p2p networks. It's out of control. Whether Hatch does something about it or not this will be an issue that will be addressed some day. | |
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join:2002-09-24
Charlotte, NC
| Re: Should put horns and a pitchfork on that picture said by JonIrenicas :
Cars were created and are used almost completely for transportation. p2p networks were created for and are used almost completely for piracy purposes. Other purposes is for distributing Kiddy porn. Very little legal sharing and downloading goes on in p2p networks. It's out of control. Whether Hatch does something about it or not this will be an issue that will be addressed some day.
P2p networks were created for and used almost completely for distributing non-copyrighted files and freeware. I'm not going to offer any proof, but If I say it, it must be true.
Out of curiousity, while they're not P2P apps, what were IRC and Newsgroups created for? I'm pretty sure it wasn't for transferring copyrighted filed. | |
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| Re: Should put horns and a pitchfork on that picture said by Cyron :
P2p networks were created for and used almost completely for distributing non-copyrighted files and freeware. I'm not going to offer any proof, but If I say it, it must be true.
Out of curiousity, while they're not P2P apps, what were IRC and Newsgroups created for? I'm pretty sure it wasn't for transferring copyrighted filed.
Heh an admin deleted my reply to this... Too bad, I hadn't come across an abusive admin in almost a year.
Anyway here we try again. Don't blow smoke up our asses we know why p2p networks were created and why they thrive. It's not because of freeware that we can get elsewhere such as Cnet.
IRC and Newsgroups were created for chatting but has turned into piracy tools. Newsgroups has turned into a huge tool for piracy, it can and should be addressed the most obviousl way is to force ISP's and news servers to drop groups that get copyright material posted to them. IRC isn't as efficent or anonymous as Newsgroups and p2p and law enfourcement has raided IRC rooms in the past. | |
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| What do you think we should do if Email, Instant Messaging, or FTP turn into huge file-sharing tools? (oops, just found out they already are).
It's not the software, it's the people using it. Copyright holders are using p2p software to bust infringers. Going after the software company doesn't even help, since the software's already out there. Sharman networks could file for bankruptcy tomorrow, and Kazaa could live on forever. | |
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join:2003-08-14
| said by Dennis :
Cars should be illegal, they can be used to kill people and rob banks.
Once again proof that Congress is nothing more than a bunch of corporate playground butt monkeys.
Also using their logic, I guess the internet will be banned, because people can use internet access to do evil.
It just amazes me the stupidity of the people who are supposedly leading our country... and on top of all this stupidity, these same stupid people are the very ones at war with other countries.
There isn't one judge that would agree with what they are trying to pass. The only reason Napster was rule against was because they kept a database on their servers of everything. | |
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| Re: Should put horns and a pitchfork on that pictu They aren't trying to get the internet shut down that is a huge stretch to try to connect the two together. What they're trying to do is get rid of piracy forums that are almost exclusively used for piracy. They can't get rid of all piracy but getting rid of forums that almost all use for piracy would greatly minimize piracy on the internet.
Anyway this is an old argument. Stealing is stealing whether it be digitally or physically. Someday both Newsgroups and p2p networks will be piracy free (or atleast greatly minimized). Even though a Canada judge has ruled p2p piracy legal they will eventually come around like they did with satellite hacking. We can disagree and whine all we want but Hatch is doing the right thing morally and legally. This internet piracy free for all will not be ignore and allowed forever. | |
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| Re: Should put horns and a pitchfork on that pictu Stealing is stealing whether it be digitally or physically.
i suppose recording radio is stealing
i suppose using a vcr to record HBO/SHOWTIME is stealing
i suppose using the tap instead of buying evian is "stealing" from evian eh?ea
i suppose the buggywhip industry should be allowed to sue people for using cars because theyre "stealing" their profits?
How about my right to free expression, my right to go on the net and find artistic works corporations refuse to market here, my right to use bit torrent to get my hands on linux?
I say the real theft is the theft of our culture.
These businesses are trying to prevent us from sharing the very substance of our culture.
For several years now the RIAA/MPAA/BSA have been offered hunderds of millions a month in collective licenses, and bluntly refused.
They are trying to use this law as leverage to force DRM lockdown onto the personal computing industry and thereby ROB the computer of the flexibility which makes it viable.
the personal electronics and broadband industry reaps hundreds of billions in benefeit, and are virtually dependent on sharing, and harvard studies show the net effect of sharing on profits is zero.
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And these p2p networks cover far more then music. PC and console games, movies, software, porn and even kiddie porn all easily searchable and downloadable. Stealing is stealing whether it's physically taking a movie from Wallmart without paying or downloading the very same movie digitally over the internet without paying. Both are just as illegal. | |
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| Wrong problem! Why doesn't this jerk go after parents who are too lazy to teach their kids right from wrong?
The way this guy is going, soon everything will be evil, and illegal.
Save us from ourselves! Help us Mr. Hatch! What a crock of sh*t.
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Karl Uppiano
join:2003-02-02
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| Re: Wrong problem! said by DHRacer :
Save us from ourselves! Help us Mr. Hatch! What a crock of sh*t.
Like seat belts, bicycle helmets and motorcycle helmets. Why can't I decide for myself? | |
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BonezX
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Karl Uppiano
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hell i'm all for natural selection
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Why can't I decide for myself?
Because you might spend your money the wrong way.
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Wilkes Barre, PA
| Senator Hatch is Evil __________________________________________________________
Hatch suggested p2p companies were evil, inducing children to steal and engage in immoral behavior
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It's like Orrin Hatch has lived his life like a saint and hasn't done anything immoral. Once again our elected government leaders talk and debut about something they know nothing about.
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join:2001-10-04
Wayne, PA | This Guy is Older Than Dirt Why doesn't Utah put Orrin and his demented ideas out to pasture? | |
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mlong
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Parker, CO
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| Take action Visit the EFF and write to your Senator. The direct link to the action center:
»action.eff.org/action/index.asp?···tem=2918
It gives an overview of the Inducing Infringement of Copyright Act (S.2560, Induce Act) and a letter to send to your Senators. It is very easy. | |
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| Re: Take action I had to throw that in. Bout the only way to convince one of them is to either drink em under the table or find one who needs something.
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raydog1
Feel Secure
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La Vergne, TN
| A Few Problems Senator. . . “These corporations know better than to break the law themselves so they profit from infringement by inducing users of their software to do the ‘dirty work’ of actually breaking the law."
"Distributors of some P2P software admit this. The distributors of EarthStation 5 state, “While other peer 2 peer networks like Kazaa or Imesh continue to deny building their programs for illegal file sharing, at ES5 we not only admit why we built ES5, we actually promote P2P, endorse file sharing, and join our users in swapping files!”
I thought the corporations were letting others do the dirty work. Yet they "admit" that they joir users in swapping?
"The Act does not affect anyone’s ability to make “fair use” of copyrighted works."
"But it recognizes that we are all human: We are all more likely to break the law if encouraged or ordered to do so. Secondary liability thus discourages lawlessness by punishing people who manipulate others into doing the “dirty work” of breaking the law. Secondary liability usually targets two types of persons: 1) those who induce others to break the law, and 2) those who control others who break the law."
Small problem with these 2 statements. How are we to understand our "fair use" rights when they are being stripped from us by laws that you so love to draft? Don't you encourage lawlessness also by making every move we make online illegal? Also, you say you're doing this for the kids, but you seem to have no problems with the RIAA suing them and their parents by the hundreds.
I stopped reading after that. This is just getting ridiculous. I thought we were busy in a war against terrorism or something like that?  | |
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Schenectady, NY
| Re: A Few Problems Senator. . . To Orin Hatch and his co-sponsors p2p people are terrorists the are infringing on music and movies to make extra money. Next to come will be cd's and dvd's that can only be used on one machine with an activation code to make certain you buy one for the house one for the car and one for the portable player. | |
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join:2003-12-05
Fargo, ND
| P2P is Evil... I am tired of wasting 4 hours of my life on customers computer that have "free" P2P software. They get to be severely infected with spyware and viruses. If you don't run Trend's PC Cillin and Spybot's Tea Timer you will never know how much crap is on your machine. You're kidding yourself if you think symantec and mccaffe are keeping your computer healthy.
More to the point, hey the law may be abused at first but at least the crappy software will go away and maybe eventually people won't even know the law exists.... like spitting on the sidewalks | |
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Jason Levine
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USA
| Won't someone think of the children? Why do politicians seem to think that adding the phrase "for the children" to anything makes it perfectly good? P2P companies aren't kidnapping kids, strapping them to chairs, and threatening electric shocks if they don't download Brittney's new song.
Any child who downloads music (or movies, or anything) is doing it on their own. They had to find the software, download it, install it, run it, execute the search, and initiate the download themselves. Therefore, they are responsible for any illegal actions. Parents should sit down with their kids and talk about why downloading music (w/o the copyright owner's permission) is illegal and the trouble they could get into.
If the kid persists in downloading music illegally, perhaps they should have their computer access revoked. Or perhaps the parent could set up an iTunes account for the kid linked to one of those set-spending-limit credit cards, so the kid could download a set amount of songs legally.
I've always compared the Internet to New York City. There are some great places to see both online (BBR) and in NYC (Museums). There are also some places you should steer clear of (porn sites/dark alleyways). Every parent should think to themselves: "Would I let my kid wander around the streets of NYC by himself/herself?"
If the answer is no, then monitor your child's Internet use and talk with them frequently about the types of things they should and should not be doing online. (If the answer is yes, then either your kid is old enough to make his/her own decisions and bear responsibility for them, you have talked with your kid enough to trust them, or perhaps you don't have good parenting skills.)
Perhaps people should stop looking to make laws to cover up gaps in parenting abilities.
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| Re: Won't someone think of the children? a child wouldn't understand why it is wrong. and to be perfectly honest, i dont think it is. Music is an intelectual asset, yes. But we are not downloading it and calling it our own. The auther is given credit. isn't that what intelectual property is all about. Isn't that what copyright is all about? as long as your not trying to sell it as your own work, you have not infringed on any copyright. | |
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Plug Me In
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Mount Juliet, TN
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| Personal Responsibility, (especially to your children) instead of another attempt to legislate our lives - What a novel concept! It also happens to be the concept upon which this nation was founded!!!
Doing the Right thing BECAUSE it's the Right thing seems to be a foreign idea to our lawmakers; unfortunately, it seems this concept is foreign to many of our citizens as well. RESPECT (for your neighbors, employer, friends, the intellectual property of Sony Music, etc.) seems lost in our society - of course, our so-called "leaders" lack of respect for the rights of POW's, or even the rights of our own citizens, does indeed set an example.
WELL SAID, Mr. Levine! Two thumbs, two toes, and a wiggle of my left ear for you Sir! | |
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join:2001-01-03
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| While heartfelt, the reason "child" is used in Hatch's campaign isn't for the reasons you stated.
It's actually very simple.
Would you like to be the politician that voted against this bill aimed at saving children?
You would? You worthless bastard, no re-election for you!
That is why he has added "children" to this bill. It gives it so much political weight it's not funny.
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clubs: | Induce Act Causes No Pain "Orrin Hatch: another reason why prophylactics should be mandatory." | |
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Layton, UT | Re: Induce Act Causes No Pain Hatch makes me sad to be from the same state as him, He is just mad becuse HIS cd sucked so bad no one dl it from a p2p. | |
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Jason Levine
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USA | Re: Induce Act Causes No Pain No, you have it all wrong. His CD didn't sell any copies. Therefore, those evil P2P-ers must be downloading it like crazy. | |
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click_310
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Savannah, GA |
Hatch makes me sad to be from the same state as him, He is just mad becuse HIS cd sucked so bad no one dl it from a p2p.
CD ? An audio CD? | |
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join:2001-08-14
Layton, UT | Re: Induce Act Causes No Pain Yep, He put it out around the xmass or so,I think it only sold in utah but it was the s*&t's any way | |
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slim
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join:2001-02-13
Arlington, VA
| said by b_zen :
"Orrin Hatch: another reason why prophylactics should be mandatory."
Let's not forget these folks too.
The original cosponsors of the bill are Senate Judiciary Committee Ranking Democrat Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont), Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN), Minority Leader Tom Daschle (D-SD), Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), and Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA).
I love how its all cached as P2P = "threat to children". As the kids say...WTF?
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Rockin' the Boxen
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Alexandria, VA
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| Not that I'm... ...Advocating the assassination of a public figure, but I definitely wouldn't cry if someone took this idiot (and anyone like him) out of the picture.
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| Re: Not that I'm... said by b_zen :
I'd say we'd need to get a "few" more of those pubic figures out of main street...
You mean there is normal ones who care about us.
No way do I believe that. And I am not being sarcastic here.
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StudioTech
S2409W plus SA4250HD
join:2001-10-10
Edison, NJ | Correct me if I'm wrong... ..but aren't all of the P2P programs based OUTSIDE of the USA? If so, then how to they plan on enforcing this? | |
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join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| Re: Correct me if I'm wrong... Keep it from being installed on any store bought computers. Take the new corporate P2P programs made domestically off the market (not to mention any consumer ones made here). Probably also find a way to illegalize IRC or other file transfer elements in things like instant messaging software. Maybe they will illegalize FTP while they are at it. | |
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join:2003-08-06
Monroeville, PA
| Re: Correct me if I'm wrong... This law would devasate our country, put alot of tech businesses out of business, thosands apon thosands if not millions of jobs lost, computer sale would drop so fast. Billion apon hundereds Billions of hundreds dollars lost, if you think the current debt in america is bad, this law would make it even worst, this law is the wrong way to combat priacy. | |
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BonezX
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They will declare P2P software WMD's, and take over any country where they are produced...
Hey, while we're at it, let's ban this pesky free speech thing... it incites riots and bad behavior. | |
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clubs: | Re: I'm dead! I think the mpaa ones that since it was used in a movie 80 years ago. riaa owns the right to the sound please cease and desist.
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alangoodman
join:2002-12-08
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| This guy has some head on his shoulders Mr. President, it is illegal and immoral to induce or encourage children to commit crimes. Artists realize that adults who corrupt or exploit the innocence of children are the worst type of villains. In Oliver Twist, Fagin and Bill Sikes profited by inducing children to steal. In the film Chitty-Chitty Bang-Bang, the leering “Child-Catcher” lured children into danger with false promises of “free lollipops.” Tragically, some corporations now seem to think that they can legally profit by inducing children to steal – that they can legally lure children and others with false promises of “free music.”
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| BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| Re: Rock Music is Evil Yeah god forbid my 14 year old daughter is listening to music from p2p , i so much rather her giving a bj to multiple guys in her free time. Maybe she can be a next intern at the white house.
I tell ya my kids have streaming radio going almost 24/7 when they are not in school. What's the big deal. I don't see p2p as stealing music and corrupting kids. It's marginally illegal based on a law they got passed for self preservation.
While I try and curb it if they do download music, they are not killing people or taking heavy amounts of drugs while having massive orgies while people are killing each other in the same room. It's not corrupting anyone. But seeing some of those legal bills I have to curb them. I don't have the cash to pay those thieves.
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| JonIrenicas
join:2002-06-22
| News Flash: Napster is gone we now have p2p networks that allow us to share any file type. Including porn movies, porn pics, kiddy porn movies, kiddy porn pics, console and computer games all easily searchable downloadable. Is it ok for kids to download and view Aurora Snow having butt sex? Is ok for pervs to share and download Kiddy porn?
We have it all now not just Music. | |
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badtrip
East Bay
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join:2004-03-20
Albany, CA
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·Comcast
| --> WE hold the power in this country! I realize that with all the rhetoric and bullshit these ELECTED officials spew at us, it is easy to forget that it is WE, not THEY who are powerful in the United States. There are vastly more of us, the voters, than there are of them, the elected.
These corrupt politicians are not representing us. They are not passing laws and engaging in activities that benefit the vast majority of their constituents. They are passing laws that benefit only their SUGAR DADDIES, the money hungry corporations that stuff the politicians pockets with millions and millions of dollars year after year.
In the end, it is the votes, not the corporate money that really counts with our ELECTED representation. The reason that politicians SHAKE IN THIER BOOTS when senior citizens don't approve of their actions is not because the seniors shower the politicians with gifts and cash, it is simply because seniors are more likely to VOTE.
Do yourself and ALL your fellow Americans a favor. When you do not agree with your elected representative's policies. Write them a letter and tell them you disagree. Tell them that you will VOTE for the individual that best represents your beliefs and interests. Then, back up your words and vote. I guarantee that they will ALL come around. | |
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Vote3rd
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| Re: --> WE hold the power in this country!
Vote Nader !!!
Don't give me that its gonna hurt kerry cause if he was in the senate he probably would of signed it just like Clinton. | |
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click_310
Eat my shorts
join:2002-12-06
Savannah, GA
| said by badtrip :
Do yourself and ALL your fellow Americans a favor. When you do not agree with your elected representative's policies. Write them a letter and tell them you disagree. Tell them that you will VOTE for the individual that best represents your beliefs and interests. Then, back up your words and vote. I guarantee that they will ALL come around.
If every person who has posted here goes out to vote and takes along 2 friends. We all might make a diffrence.. hmm 45+ posts; {45+(45*2)}=135 people
Oh.. screw it... who am I kidding that changes nothing... We'll still have all these dumb laws, just because we are too lazy to vote. | |
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montana3087
Say hello to my little friend
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join:2001-05-03
Santa Clara, CA
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| Yeah, if we even get to vote this year, remember they are trying to be able to "change" the date of the vote "if" there is even a threat of violence, as they do almost every 2 to 3 months. I can see it locally but there is no reason nationally. This has nothing to do with safety, because if they postpone it then the terrorists will do the same. And it will become a logistical, expensive nightmare if they do. | |
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
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join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
clubs: | Ya know. Somebody must of paid him off very well to sing that tune. | |
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Sr Tech
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join:2003-01-19
New Fairfield, CT | Re: Ya know. Of Course, All the Celebs and Record industry is paying for his election.... | |
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
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join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
clubs: | Re: Ya know. Most of the leagel money.... | |
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ropeguru
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join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
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| By definition... Doesn't normal lan's constitue a P2P network?? On a lan there are peers sharing information. Maybe we should just ban everything and go back to the stone ages.
We can even ban phones and mail. They consist of a medium for peers to share in formation. So why don't we all just never communicate?? | |
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BonezX
Basement Dweller
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join:2004-04-13
Canada | Re: By definition... somthing tells me, if this does pass, there will be more people moving out of the states, then during the draft for vietnam. oh wait, there's allready a law about that...... you suckers are screwed | |
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