Jason
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1 edit | Heh..
Im sorry, im wrong.. Comcast, please tell me again what I want?
-Jason
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heaphus
Geaux Tigers
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Franklinton, LA
clubs: | Is there some major technological hurdle to providing faster upstream speeds?
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD | no |
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bmupton
join:2001-08-19
Saskatoon, SK
| reply to Jason
Isn't Disney the world's largest mind control corporation?
I mean come on.........
Hey, who are you? What are you doing to me?
Hey!
Someone HELP m.........................................
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Alphy
join:2001-12-31
Troy, MI
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The survey is incredibly skewed. Saying that BBR users represent the average Cable/DSL subscriber is just plain wrong. I am in no way defending the major ISP's (who wouldn't mind more bandwidth?) but a 1.5Mbit connection will keep the AVERAGE user appeased for quite some time. |
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rubber_ducky6
join:2004-05-02 | re psycho
Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. |
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spewak
R.I.P Dadkins
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join:2001-08-07
Elk Grove, CA | I want it...
I lay prostrate before the almighty D! |
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Sean
join:2004-01-23
Ottawa
 ·Bell Sympatico
| reply to heaphus
Re: Heh..
said by heaphus  :
Is there some major technological hurdle to providing faster upstream speeds?
For cable, yes. Upstream bandwidth is what causes nodes to choke. THat's why DSL (atleast in Canada) has always given the higher upload. |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | Government needs to act
It should make it illegal to call anything broadband, unless its download and uploud is 1.5m or above. They should make the term smallband for those that keep dicking us around with 768K download and 128K upload. |
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BizFinancing
Premium
join:2003-01-10
Port Orchard, WA | reply to Sean
Re: Heh..
That is primarily the fault of the cable providers who have been too cheap to build their networks properly and to provide sufficient, high quality IP access. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
 ·Comcast
| reply to Alphy
said by Alphy :
The survey is incredibly skewed. Saying that BBR users represent the average Cable/DSL subscriber is just plain wrong.
I agree. I would say that the most BBR users represent "the people who want more upstream bandwidth but are too cheap to pay for it so they whine" category. LOL
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Rickez
Goinginsane
join:2000-09-02
Three Rivers, MA | reply to insomniac84
Re: So how many Switchers converted so far...?
I would be happy with just the advertised speed. (VERIZON DSL)
And i agree with i-84 " dicking us around with 768K download and 128K upload." |
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LBDSL
Lightning Bolt
VIP
join:2002-01-07
Auburn Hills, MI
| reply to heaphus
Re: Heh..
said by heaphus :
Is there some major technological hurdle to providing faster upstream speeds?
With ADSL, as the technology stands now in the US, the MAX you can do on the upload side is 1m, under perfect conditions. Real world 768, or slightly higher is the best you will get.
SDSL can go up to 2.3m, but you have a distance, and cost issue.
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tiger72
SexaT duorP
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join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
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| reply to Alphy
said by Alphy :
The survey is incredibly skewed. Saying that BBR users represent the average Cable/DSL subscriber is just plain wrong. I am in no way defending the major ISP's (who wouldn't mind more bandwidth?) but a 1.5Mbit connection will keep the AVERAGE user appeased for quite some time.
But that still doesn't account for Comcast using their funds to purchase rights to distribute content instead of upgrading their network and providing their users with more upload speed. Even the "average" user will want to videoconference in the near future like they've said we could for years.
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underscore
join:2004-04-20
Fairfax, VA | reply to Rickez
Re: So how many Switchers converted so far...?
A good idea would be to make a letter in which we could all flood our congressmen with that demands a higher speed specification to be labeled "broadband." |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
2 edits | reply to Jason
Re: Heh..
Comcast (comcr@p as far as I'm concerned) is another one of those Mega Corporations that is more concerned with finding new revenue streams than it is about running its existing business or statisfying customers.
Cost cutting: Outsourcing globally.
Revenue: Disney, charging $$$$ for service (compared to TimeWarner RR/SBC DSL)
Eventually, Comcast will crumble under its own weight like AOL is doing to itself.
Comcast = Unwanted Disney + high cost - customer low service - slow Internet. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to Rickez
Re: So how many Switchers converted so far...?
Where there is alternatives, it CAN be good.
I pay $26.95/month for 1500/256kbps DSL on SBC (note: bundled with telephone service)
Comcast wanted MUCH more, even bundled: $42.95 + $3 modem rental + installation fee. Basic cable is $13.95 or $57.95 (no other options!) |
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DrTCP
Yours truly
Premium,ExMod 1999-04
join:1999-11-09
Round Rock, TX
| reply to LBDSL
Re: Heh..
said by LBDSL :
said by heaphus :
Is there some major technological hurdle to providing faster upstream speeds?
With ADSL, as the technology stands now in the US, the MAX you can do on the upload side is 1m, under perfect conditions. Real world 768, or slightly higher is the best you will get.
SDSL can go up to 2.3m, but you have a distance, and cost issue.
Actually cable can deliver up to 30Mbps using DOCSIS 2.0 equipment (10Mbps using DOCSIS 1.0/1.1). Thus, technically a cable customer can easily push 1.5-2Mbps easily upstream in real life.
OK, you can say that cable is shared and not all customers can be handled but the same problem exists with DSL in that while each of 500 DSL customer gets its own 786kbps to the DSLAM from the DSLAM to the ISP router the connection is usually a T3 (45Mbps) so it does not really matter. Bandwidth is shared somewhere.
Provided provisioned so, a DSL customer can burst to 786kbps max while a cable customer can burst up to 30Mbps (typically up to 10Mbps due to 10BaseT ethernet found in a typical cable modem) ethernet interface is 10BaseT) |
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LordMalak
join:2003-07-02
Brazil
| They're Giving Them What They Want
Guys, there's more to broadband's users than the geeks/nerds/dweebs that hang out at BBR and Slashdot.
I want more speed up and down as much as you do, but the majority of users out there are moms and dads who want their online shopping to be more convenient. Just ask AOL.
Think outside the box here! Only a very small percentage of users are technically-inclined speed freaks. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| reply to BizFinancing
Re: Heh..
said by BizFinancing :
That is primarily the fault of the cable providers who have been too cheap to build their networks properly and to provide sufficient, high quality IP access.
Even the cable companies' half-@$$ed buildout of broadband easily puts to shame the lack of deployments by the telegraph companies.
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