dks7
join:2004-05-31 | Poor Babies
Meh bunch of babies. I love competition, without it we'd still be stuck at 14.4k. |
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Steve
I'm a PC, so shut up
Consultant
join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA
| Looks like a good study to me
The Tolly Group are a pretty top-notch group of people, very experienced in high-end equipment testing, so if they put their name on this, it's probably a pretty good study.
Steve
Disclaimer: they've been a customer in the past
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coffaro
Moonie
Premium
join:2003-07-05
Arlington, TX
clubs: | Good for them. Too bad that's not true for all DSL vs Cable. I'd like to see some competition for our money. |
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Voyager2K2
join:2001-10-04
Wayne, PA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| You Can't Fool Mainers
Having spent a decade in Maine I can say this about Mainers.
They aren't easily fooled and recognise the value of a dollar.
GWI should kick-ass in Maine (where available) regardless of what T/W does.
As I see it it's just more free advertising for GWI.
Phooey on T/W! |
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C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
Premium
join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL | reply to Steve
Re: Looks like a good study to me
Well, what do you expect for a bunch of whino's controlled by Steve Case?
Time Warner lost. Either shape up and improve or shut up and deal with it.  |
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Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
 ·EarthLink
·AT&T Midwest
 ·Earthlink Cable Mo..
| Keep TW blind
You would certainly have to do this with Time Warner "blind". They've been accused of making "special" configurations when their service is being demo'd, for example, at a computer show or similar. Instead of the modem being capped at their standard speed, say 2 or 3mb, they can open it up to 10mb. |
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borborpa
Slipping Slowly Into Oblivion
Premium
join:2002-02-20
New Cumberland, PA
clubs:
·Speakeasy
| But TW does the same thing?!
It's OK for TW to say they are x times faster than DSL, but it's not OK for a group to test and show that they, in fact, aren't? What a bunch of whiners!! How about upgrading the system so it IS faster, then having the test re-done. Oh wait...that would make sense.
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Lurch77
Stop looking at me.
Premium
join:2001-11-22
+44.88-87.89 | reply to Voyager2K2
Re: You Can't Fool Mainers
I agree. I spent 4 years in Maine. GWI was great! |
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exocet_cm
In memory of dadkins
Premium
join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
clubs:  | Aww...
...TW got their feelings hurt,  *sniffle* |
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SND2005
Premium
join:2001-09-15
Im Over Here
 ·CWLab
2 edits | Frito-Lay can't prove it tastes better.....
Speaking as someone who grew up in Maine- screw Time Warner! Maine is one of the states most behind in broadband tech and just because TW doesn't like the way a ad sounds they have to stomp the little ant to death!? This should speak to people as to the true nature of the corporate giant.
AOL, SBC, AT&T, Sprint.... all these people air commericals making fun of each other and claiming their product is better. Where's the lawsuit there?
For an exmaple of who stupid this can get, check out the Jays Vs. Lays battle....
»www.billingsgazette.com/index.ph···hips.inc |
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Subaru
1-3-2-4
Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT
clubs:
 ·Packet8
|  reply to exocet_cm
Re: Aww...
said by exocet_cm  :
...TW got their feelings hurt, *sniffle*
LMAO Perfect! |
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Doubledee32
join:2002-06-20
Charlotte, NC | AWWWWWW!!!
T/W should stop whining and increase their speed!-What a bunch of wussies!! |
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PhoenixDown
-- Wants FIOS
Premium
join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
clubs: | reply to dks7
Re: Poor Babies
I am not knocking the study since I dont know anything about it, or Maine for that matter, but if Cable is 3 meg down and dsl is barely 1 meg down - how is it faster?!?
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Final Fantasy |
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kpatz
MY HEAD A SPLODE
Premium
join:2003-06-13
Manchester, NH
| TWC in Maine?
Does TWC even cover Maine? Around here (NH), we're either Comcast or Adelphia depending on the town. I didn't think TW/RR covered anything north of Connecticut.
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akristov
join:2001-01-31
Tampa, FL
clubs: | TWC definitely covers Portland, Maine. |
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k_mumm
join:2001-06-14
Laramie, WY | reply to PhoenixDown
Re: Poor Babies
Try 8 meg down. |
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Bill
Light Up The Halo
Premium,VIP
join:2001-12-09
clubs:
| reply to borborpa
Re: But TW does the same thing?!
Adelphia does the same thing in this area. All their ads say "8 times faster than DSL !", but whenever a DSL company comes back and says "Our DSL is faster than Cable" people get mad.
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ParanoiaInc
join:2002-08-28
Tucker, GA
| I see no proof in this pudding.
First, www.tolly.com is not online. I keep getting redirected to Netowrk Solutions. Next, I do not see GWI stating specifically the parameters for the comparison. FOr me, it would have to be restricted to between the customer's premises and the ISP's first hop to the Internet. This way it would include the ISP's internal network and into their gatewya into the upstream provider's network.
Also, I would like to see saturated and unsaturated network portions as well. I have seen Saturated DSLAM's and Headends and they can have a tremendous range of bandwidth consumption. And since GWI may not own the DSLAM's they are using (Verizon?), its a further bust on the matter.
But, there is one thing I can conclude on this kind of 'advertising', and that is if a company cannot rest on their own laurels then the only option is political-style competitor-slamming approaches. And in this, GWI just became no better, in my eyes, than TWC. |
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VWSpeedRacer
join:2002-10-06
Essex Junction, VT
clubs: | Bait and switch... AGAIN!
"Sure, we said you could do the study... but we didn't say you could come out on top! WTF! Where's our lawyer?!?" |
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gondola_fry
join:2004-06-29
Portland, ME | reply to kpatz
Re: TWC in Maine?
Time Warner is the largest cable provider in Maine. The only one that comes close to it is Adelphia which is absolutely horrid here. |
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