 mishaqPremium
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Richardson, TX | Or if the kid were smart he/she could just remove the faceplate?
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 |  RhobitePremium
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1 edit | Re: Or if the kid were smart Looks like there are "security" screws on the faceplate. So the kid would have to take a dremel to a flathead screwdriver, which isn't too hard.
Edit: looked at the bigger picture, actually it looks like they're allen screws which are even easier. Come on at least they could have used torx (aka compaq) screws.
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|  MospawWhat, too soon?Hawaiian Jellyfish
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he/she could just remove the faceplate?
First thing I thought.
Apparently they have never seen "child proof" medicine bottles. Either they have way under-described the physical security of this device, or any kid with an Allen wrench will be able to get into it and bypass it within about 3 minutes. | |
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| |  delt4500 or BUSTPremium
join:2000-07-13
Pittsburgh, PA
kudos:1 | Re: Or if the kid were smart said by Mospaw:
said by mishaq:
he/she could just remove the faceplate?
First thing I thought.
Apparently they have never seen "child proof" medicine bottles. Either they have way under-described the physical security of this device, or any kid with an Allen wrench will be able to get into it and bypass it within about 3 minutes.
And promptly get his ass beat for not listening. I agree with you Mospaw, it is easy to bypass it. | |
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| |  NerdtalkerWorking Hard, Or Hardly Working?Premium,MVM
join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ | said by Mospaw:
said by mishaq:
he/she could just remove the faceplate?
First thing I thought.
Same here, I didn't even read the article fully, I just thought, well, that's dumb, all the kid needs is an allen wrench and some wire clippers, and boom, the thing comes off, you splice the cables together, and you've got it.  
They practically explain it on their website: »www.smarthome.com/9620.html
Kids are more resourceful than you think...
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|  BAPremium,MVM
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Vancouver, BC | Those screws look flat - they don't look like allen screws. You're going need at least a drill and good bits to get through that. | |
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Those screws look flat - they don't look like allen screws. You're going need at least a drill and good bits to get through that.
Considering the product comes with an allen wrench, the allen screws part sounds logical to me.
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Skowhegan, ME | Who cares? Who would want to take the time,effort and money to do this when you can simply go outside and disconnect the nid or take all the phone cords. | |
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kudos:1 | arent accounts easier Why waste so much time, just suspend the account, or even better disconnect the cord from the wall.
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11337845Live free or diePremium
join:2002-12-20
Seattle, WA | Interesting They should consider making a version that incorporates one phone jack and one ethernet jack (or multiples of ethernet or both).
I know a decent amount of people who have their houses wired for ethernet, and that would be a great tool for those with broadband questions.
I wonder if those two phone jacks are any different with respects to the "Tel" jack having a built in DSL filter.
How is it controlled? How is there input? Do you take off the faceplate and enter your pin? I couldn't quite figure that out. | |
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| BAPremium,MVM
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Vancouver, BC | Re: Interesting said by 11337845:
How is it controlled? How is there input? Do you take off the faceplate and enter your pin? I couldn't quite figure that out.
According to the description, you use the phone to control the unit. | |
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|  EricJRW
join:2001-12-19
Fort Worth, TX | Re: Face-plate allows phone control It would make more sense to put the thing in the wiring closet and run the house from the one panel.
As i recall most newer houses and apartments have one similar wallplate where the service comes into the house/apt.
This is where this gadget should go...
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| |  antiphishingPhishing Scam TerminatorPremium
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| Re: Face-plate allows phone control said by EricJRW:
It would make more sense to put the thing in the wiring closet and run the house from the one panel.
This is a good point.
You could have a centralised box with multiple timers which can feed more then one phone jack. Each phone jack could have it's own zone in which you could set a timer or no timer at all.
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|  JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA | Gosh. That LCD display looks suspiciously like the one on the timer I use for my fish tank lights. How could this beeeee?! | |
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 paulhaskewUnoffical Dominos Spokesman
join:2002-01-10
Vancouver, WA
1 edit | um give me my small toolkit and I can bypass it easily.. | |
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|  UnaFraggerHi TherePremium
join:2002-03-05
Richmond, VA | Re: um give me a hammer, and I can keep kids offline. | |
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|  CPMBroadband, DSL, cable
join:2001-08-24
Brooklyn, NY | LOCK IT UP Just take the Kids computer away. And lock it in a safe. end of that BS | |
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| | cbs228Geeks Of The World, Unite
join:2000-09-04
Saint Louis, MO | Re: LOCK IT UP <sarcasm> or better yet, just lock the kid in the safe so they can't go anywhere and hurt themselves </sarcasm>
Seriously, what's the point? | |
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 digiblurGot Sipura?Premium
join:2002-06-03
Louisiana | 911 "It's after 9:30pm, the phone is dead! I can't call 911!!!"  | |
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| CPMBroadband, DSL, cable
join:2001-08-24
Brooklyn, NY | Re: 911 Why only after 9 30 pm do you need to call 9 11? are you watching Everyone love raymond again lol | |
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|  Vchat20Landing is the REAL challengePremium
join:2003-09-16
Columbus, OH | from what it says on the site, 911 and 3 other programmable numbers can always be called reguardless of the lock state. | |
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| | digiblurGot Sipura?Premium
join:2002-06-03
Louisiana | Re: 911 said by Vchat20:
from what it says on the site, 911 and 3 other programmable numbers can always be called reguardless of the lock state.
I know... I was talking about the guys making homebrew ones. | |
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join:2001-09-12
Hanna, AB
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1 edit | Hey, if you have the money. lol, thats a little crazy, but I guess if you had the money, go for it.
Wouldn't do very good in my house lol, I have both main phone boxes in the back corner of my room  just unscrew that, and wire my dsl modem directly in there, and cut off all the other phones in the house (lol)
Then again, I was never in trouble for using the phone lol..
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| Worthless This realy looks worthless. I mean come on, a factplate that will allow the parent to cut off broadband? A kid can take it apart with a allen wrench easly and destroy it.
"Why did my broadband go down?!"
"Because you've spent too much time looking up porn homework!"
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|  devrandomI got a pot, full of random stuff herePremium
join:2003-06-28 | Re: Worthless Or they could just connect to the neighbor's unsecured wireless network.. | |
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 koolman2Premium
join:2002-10-01
Anchorage, AK | Screw that Easy solutions:
You want the kid off the phone and they won't get off? Pick up the phone, choose a number/symbol on the keypad, and hold that key down until they hang up.
You want the kid off of the broadband? Go the the broadband device, disconnect it and take it away.
Want the kid off of the computer? Go to the circuit-breaker box and flip the switch where the computer is located. Do this one only if you don't care about the computer.  | |
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| CPMBroadband, DSL, cable
join:2001-08-24
Brooklyn, NY
1 edit | Re: Screw that Well, Kids really don't need a computer to learn. Here is low tech way for your kids to learn. It is called reading a book.
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| | krobarIs this thing on?
join:2002-09-15
Columbus, OH | Re: Screw that Physician heal thyself, might I recommend a dictionary?
j/k, I realize it's a typo
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| | | CPMBroadband, DSL, cable
join:2001-08-24
Brooklyn, NY | Re: Screw that What typo | |
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| devrandomI got a pot, full of random stuff herePremium
join:2003-06-28 | Another route is getting them interested in doing something else..or making them do something constructive..like programming. | |
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 ilikemeI live in a van down by the river.Premium
join:2002-08-27
Denton, TX
kudos:1 | what about people with cable internet? That doesn't look like it will work with cable since there is no cable outlet. Either way I could bypass that in less than a minute. | |
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| | Easier and cheaper just to configure the router with a firewall rule! I like the yelling one better. | |
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join:2000-07-13
Pittsburgh, PA
kudos:1 | Kids that won't listen Basically, this whole issue is about trust. Do you, ( if you have or will have a kid ) trust in him or her to listen to you. It should not have to come down to this, but if it does, that piece of tool is very expensive if you add up all the outlets in the house. | |
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join:2000-12-28
Pittsburgh, PA
kudos:1 | A squirrel hunt with a 10 gauge shotgun? A firewalled network access point (read: a high-end router with a built-in packet filter, or roll your own with BSD or Linux and an old machine) would not only be cheaper, it would probably be simpler and far, far more elegant... and PC firewalls like the old 2.x versions of Kerio can forward logs to another computer (lots like most SOHO routers do), be remotely accessed and have fairly sound password protection.
There are a lot of ways to skin a cat; this one looks to me a little like a cat-skinning machine designed by a committee of professional elephant skinners.
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Milpitas, CA | Re: A squirrel hunt with a 10 gauge shotgun? You can bypass the firewall by disconnecting it from the modem and directly attaching the computer.
You would be amazed what children can do when they really want something.
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HalM
join:2001-08-24
San Jose, CA | You Guys Should Read The FINE Print!!! This thing apparently DOES NOT control the DSL side ...it's ONLY a filtered jack...not a contolled one. This fron the ad for this piece of crap...
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|  dslwanterIt's comingPremium
join:2002-12-16
Niles, OH
·AT&T Midwest
| Re: You Guys Should Read The FINE Print!!! said by HalM:
This thing apparently DOES NOT control the DSL side ...it's ONLY a filtered jack...not a contolled one. This fron the ad for this piece of crap...
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| | Whatever happened to parenting? Whatever happened to parents doing their job?
When I was a child, I never said "no" to my father! He was a cool dad, but if I crossed that line, well... I once did... You can bet I never did it again!
If your kid is a royal pain, ask him if he has ever heard of a catholic boarding school or a military school and if he wants to find out how the life is there. Heck, he/she might even get a good education with some discipline without you risking them calling DCFS (in my neighborhood you have to get to the phone first ).
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|  richk_1957If ..Then..ElsePremium
join:2001-04-11
Minas Tirith | Re: Whatever happened to parenting? Same here.
When I was a kid, when I blatently went against my parents wishes, I paid for it [ouch]. Thgese days, you send your kid to bed without supper, the kid next day calls the police 'my parents aren't feeding me' and the next day the police & child support get sent to the house [I've seen it happen]
And a lot of parents don't want to be bothered sending their kids to a private school, or say 'I can't afford it' [it is expensive], or say they don't have time to discipline their kids. | |
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| | | LMAO!! If you love your child, then the fear of God, AKA Daddy, has been instilled. | |
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join:2000-11-03
somewhere | dammit this is one of those inventions that leaves me thinking..... 'why didnt I think of coming up with something like this?' | |
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| | | Re: dammit said by Frank:
this is one of those inventions that leaves me thinking..... 'why didnt I think of coming up with something like this?'
it would be cheaper to just take the phone and or modem, problem solved. or if your not going to be home just go out to the demarc and unplug the phone.
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| | | | Re: dammit exactly.. take the modem away. Problem solved. | |
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exactly.. take the modem away. Problem solved.
lol yea, whats next linelok power adapters? i mean when i got in trouble my parents would waste money on this, they would just take the whole dam computer, and if i had a report to type, bust out the typewriter. phone punishment never really worked for me, so what i cant talk on the phone? dam i used the phone maybe 30 sec a day, more of a girls punishment.
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join:2000-07-08
Monroe, GA | More junk As a parent(who happens to be single)I see no need for junky half-ass filters that most kids could easily bypass and start a "pissing contest" between kids and parents.
I try to teach my kids what's right what's wrong, they're 9and1/2 and 11 and they have a pretty good grasp of it.
Of course we don't have a land line phone and the cable modem and router sit next to me so no messing with that either.
On a side note, whoever these 10 or thereabouts kids are that know more about computers than their parents do certainly don't live in my house. I mean my kids couldn't tell the difference between a router and a modem or a host file from an ip addy. They have no interest in how it works, it breaks they get Dad(me)to fix it and go on.
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| | you're forgetting something... Those of you who are complaining about how easy it would be for a kid to take a DREMEL saw and a torx bit to this thing are forgetting something. Most kids don't know how to use a dremel saw, and this product isn't marketed towards 16 and 17 year olds i think. I highly doubt that younger kids don't have your level of technical prowess when it comes to disassembling dsl plates.
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| karlj1
join:2004-01-25
Ottawa, ON | Re: you're forgetting something... Nice idea but no. I'd take away my daughter's PC first. Considering the fact that if she has done something bad, playing on the computer - net or no net - is a *privilege*.
Why would I say no net access, then turn around and still say she can still play on her computer? That would be like saying no cable or satellite TV, but she can still go watch a DVD. Sure that would be punishment.
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| | | | Re: you're forgetting something... I normaly dont comment and just read...But i was on there website and something tells me its a allen wrence because on the list of things you it, Allen wrench is one of them...pointless invention | |
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| | | I'm guessing a lot of younger kids DO have the level of technical prowess it takes to bypass the plates. What they may or may not have is the ability to hide their handiwork. | |
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| |  NeilStop All The Downloadin
join:2003-08-20
New York, NY | Re: you're forgetting something... Amateurs | |
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| zipjay
join:2003-03-11
South Williamson, KY | ive seen a 16yo on tv whos dad put filtering software on his computer... thats so wrong.... | |
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join:2003-06-07
Deming, NM | Why not just disable login? When my kid misbehaves I simply disable her account. Works in WinXP, 2000, OS X, and *nix...also costs nothing. Even if you don't have a secure OS, many BIOS's can require a password to boot the machine - that method even works for DOS, and requires more knowledge to bypass than this setup...and again it's free.
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