Goober
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Naperville, IL | Good Decision
As much as I hate child pornography, the decision was the correct one. |
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antiphishing
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Wilkes Barre, PA
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B
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join:2000-10-28
1 edit | What a relief. But...
... it apparently leaves intact the (Internet) censorship in effect at most libraries across the country. Appalling.
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jsouth
Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS
| I like the filters at the library. Kids have unrestricted access to those computers and they should be filtered. If you want to see nudie pics do it at home. For other stuff such as legit research into say breast cancer usually all you have to do is let the librarian know and show proof of your age and they will allow sites to bypass the filters. |
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Goober
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Naperville, IL
1 edit | I'll second the support (FOR filters) on that one. |
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C0unterfeit
join:2000-10-23
Lodi, NJ | reply to jsouth
So what should the age say to allow a "legit search?" |
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bit_junkie
join:2004-05-04
Maricopa, AZ
| said by C0unterfeit  :
So what should the age say to allow a "legit search?"
well if you mean legit as in research for school projects and such for children, i think that should be left up to parents what is appropriate for their kids and at what age.
now if you mean legit as in a legal adult website, 18 or older,which i believe is the legal age in most of the country |
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winky
Turn Left At The Moon
join:2001-02-11
Saint Louis, MO
1 edit | Check your package at the door please...
It's not like we're talking about free speech here as far as the library filter system goes. That's tax dollars. If you want to take it further, take a vote and see how many taxpayers want their money to allow the local library to become a pornfest. If you don't have access at home, I guess you'll just have to buy porn like in the old days. As far as filtering the internet in general by anyone, I say HANDS OFF. If you want to stop child pornography, and who wouldn't, shut down the source. Until something other than filters (which are horribly lame) come about you'll have to do it the old fashioned way; shut down sites, sanction governments that protect them, follow the money. Don't try to pass off a half-a** attempt that screws everyone in order to please a few and makes it look like you're the good guy.
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jsouth
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Wichita, KS | reply to bit_junkie
Re: What a relief. But...
Agreed and I also thing for kids under 15 the parents should have to be present with the child. |
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B
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join:2000-10-28
| reply to C0unterfeit
First, "kids" should not have unsupervised access to ANYTHING. The activities of children at a library should be monitored by their parents, guardians, AND/OR librarians.
Second, "nudie pics" have nothing to do with it -- only the truly creepy would surf for porn in a public library.
It has to do with little things like human rights, the first amendment, a free society, effective distribution of human knowledge, watching the watchers, unintended consequences, little things like that.
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reub2000
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join:2001-12-28
Evanston, IL
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Re: Check your package at the door please...
I agree that you shouldn't be looking at porn at the library. THe problem is that the filters at my school filters out free web hosts. There was even a problem with it blocking webpages that techers had hosted at places like angelfire. Also, the waybackwhenmachine is blocked because it's a "loophole". |
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technick
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join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA
| reply to B
Re: What a relief. But...
quote:
Second, "nudie pics" have nothing to do with it -- only the truly creepy would surf for porn in a public library.
I know this is off topic, but I was at my local kinko's a few weeks ago, there was this black guy sitting in the back of the computer area looking at porn... thought it was funny |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
| reply to B
said by B :
Second, "nudie pics" have nothing to do with it -- only the truly creepy would surf for porn in a public library.
Trust me, you'd be surprised.
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ReneMH
join:2001-11-27
Cockeysville, MD | reply to jsouth
You have to be of legal age to research brest cancer ? |
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B
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join:2000-10-28
1 edit | Effectively, yes! The point is that no filter can ever perform with 100% (or even 90%) accuracy in blocking all possibly "objectionable" material but ALSO allow reasonable access to the sum of human knowledge.
This also subtly penalizes those already least privileged -- those resorting to the library for Internet access.
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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Alexandria, VA
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said by C0unterfeit :
So what should the age say to allow a "legit search?"
Assuming they aren't already of sufficient age to buy Playboy at the local news stand or legally see an R-rated movie unescorted?
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Towanda, PA | PA sucks!
Just another fact re-enforcing my opinion that Pennsylvania is teh biggest shithole in the United States of America. |
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B
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join:2000-10-28
| reply to nixen
Re: What a relief. But...
I think the simple act of a dour librarian standing over your shoulder should be more than enough to keep both children and perverts in line. It's not as if the public computer terminals sit in little phone booths with shades.
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starstuff
Fly By Wire
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Mcallen, TX
| reply to Goober
Re: Good Decision
I have a solution... make every child under 15 wear a burka  |
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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Alexandria, VA | reply to B
Re: What a relief. But...
I dunno, some of those librarians can be pretty hot...
-tom |
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