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Comments on news posted 2004-09-28 16:28:12: Ars Technica joins the browser log party, and posts a breakdown of which browsers their readers are using compared to logs from three years ago. ..

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Daemon
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i'd like to see yahoo, espn, and microsoft

So far, all of the stats I've seen have been /., ars technica, and other geek oriented, OSS supportive sites.

A site like neowin, known for windows fan boys would be interesting, as would a large general interest site like yahoo or espn.
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fire100
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More Linux Users?

I think this might be tied to more of the techy people moving over to Linux, which in Linux you generally use a Mozilla based browser.
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antwanp
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Browser Trend

And so the trend continues. This is sure to piss the people who want Firefox to reamain small off! I don't know why though, it is a better browser. IE 6 on SP2 comes very close though.

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Mike
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reply to Daemon
Re: i'd like to see yahoo, espn, and microsoft

You have to start somewhere.....


TheMadSwede
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Great

Just what web developers need. More browser fragmentation.

I wish these companies would just stick to standards, regardless of the branding of the browser.

bah.
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Jason Levine
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Another technical community

Technical communities will be more likely to have Mozilla/FireFox users than the general community. Going by TheCounter.com's stats ( »www.thecounter.com/stats/2004/Se···wser.php ), IE 5.x+ holds 91% of the market and Mozilla variants hold about 4%.
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nil
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reply to TheMadSwede
Re: Great

er.. web developers worth a damn code to a standard which every browser ought to interpret.
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palbri
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Marketing Hype for a small minority

More marketing hype for a small minority of users.

Millions and millions of people won't notice or care to know.

While many of the non-tech people I had shown FireFox to, all said that it was too much work to install themes, extensions and plug-ins.
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User0101
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I'm actually a convert from Mozilla/Firefox back to IE after the SP2 Updates. The new integrated Popup Blocker works seamlessly for me. The additional security updates help as well.

Overall, is it perfect... no, but it suits my needs perfectly with other protection I'm running. Run what is suitable for you, try out other platforms if they interest you, determine what is best for you. Don't jump on the bashing bandwagon without actually having some background yourself.

/Trying to catch the "next" browser flamewar before it begins in 3... 2... 1...


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reply to Jason Levine
Re: Another technical community

This is from my own personal site.

inTulsa
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1 edit
Questionable

Nevermind, same info was posted above by Jason Levine See Profile.


nixen
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reply to antwanp
Re: Browser Trend

said by antwanp See Profile:
IE 6 on SP2 comes very close though.

Not if you're a Web Designer, it doesn't. IE's about 5 years behind on standards compliance.

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TheMadSwede
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reply to nil
Re: Great

said by nil See Profile:
er.. web developers worth a damn code to a standard which every browser ought to interpret.

er...nice er...but er...why er...do er...browsers er...not all er...follow er...standards.

er.

Note: You said "ought to interpret"
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Jason Levine
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reply to TheMadSwede
As a web developer, I don't mind if FireFox (and the other Mozilla variants) surge in popularity. It might mean more pressure on Microsoft to increase how well IE supports standards like CSS2. It's not like there's a sudden resurgence of Netscape 4. *shudder*
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nixen
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said by TheMadSwede See Profile:
Just what web developers need. More browser fragmentation.

I wish these companies would just stick to standards, regardless of the branding of the browser.

bah.

You know, that might actually be a valid point....

If it weren't for the fact that browsers like Firefox, Safari, Opera, etc. strive to be standards compliant. That is to say, so long as you code to established standards, your pages will render the same in any given browser.

IE, on the other hand, simply DOESN'T, or at least, doesn't conform to updated standards. And, the things that it doesn't support, tend to make developing basic content more time consuming (read expensive) and more restricted to just that browser. If anything, IE is the source of fragmentation at this point (shocking, eh?).

-tom
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justin
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reply to fire100
Re: More Linux Users?

no i don't think linux desktop share has improved by more than a percentage point in that time.

ariez

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reply to Jason Levine
Re: Great

said by Jason Levine See Profile:
It's not like there's a sudden resurgence of Netscape 4. *shudder*

what was wrong with netscape 4?


justin
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reply to palbri
Re: Marketing Hype for a small minority

so, wait, it pleases you that "most people" don't listen to you when you tell them that firefox is more secure, easier to use, and doesn't allow popups?


TKJunkMail
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reply to Jason Levine
Re: Another technical community

The anti-MS crowd jump on any bit of info that looks negative for MS and then exaggerate it's importance. To them being anti-MS is a religion and not just a technical or user decision.


Dennis
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        Hits     Percent     Agent

629,175 42.06% MS Internet Explorer v6
366,313 24.49% Other Agent
201,667 13.48% Spider/Robot
162,889 10.89% MS Internet Explorer v5
40,047 2.68% Netscape Navigator v6
27,156 1.82% Netscape Navigator v5
11,557 0.77% Download Manager

I wonder if "other agent" is mozilla?

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