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Comments on news posted 2004-10-01 12:59:19: While drinking coffee this morning, we stumbled into a Wi-Fi Weblog article dubbed "WiMax Gaining On DSL and Cable Modems", which proudly proclaimed WiMax was "gaining in popularity and is poised to become the third most used high-speed internet acce.. ..

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Matt
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All hype

I've spoken to my wireless vendor and he said the consumer stuff won't have any better range than current 802.11b/g/a gear.

He said all the promises being made are overhyped unless you are one of the companies that actually purchased spectrum and can afford to place a couple of half a million dollar WiMAX towers around the city.
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53059959
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if wimax can wash dishes and potty-train toddlers...can it bring back pets.com?!!!!


wifi4milez
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Wimax certainly looks good......

I am pretty confidant that wimax will come to market and will help to alleviate the always terrbible "last mile" problem many companies face. However the timeframes are still up in the air in my opinion. The other thing that I question is their claims of 30 mile range. I see plenty of wifi or wisp retailers selling bundles that offer "50 to 70 mile range" with existing 802.11b and 802.11g products coupled with special antennas. I have not really seen a comparison between the two (wimax and wifi backahaul) so I can't say how much better or different wimax is than these homebrew 802.11 solutions you can find all over the web. My last issue is not so much with wimax, but more with consumers impressions of what it will do. Wimax is NOT meant to be a wifi replacement. It is my understanding that wimax is meant to be a wireless backhaul to the internet. Customers who purchase wimax will use it simply like they use a regular T1 line. They will still need/want to create their own wired/wireless network in there home or place of business to share this internet connection. I think intel is trying to hype up this product by letting peoples imaginations run wild, while not really trying to hard to clarify what their new technology will do.

cmaenginsb
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join:2001-03-19
Palmdale, CA

Range isn't what WiMax is about

Range isn't what WiMax is about, it has a host of other features that make it interesting, but not to home users.

Unless you are a WISP this isn't going to be hot news for you.

WiMax is designed for outdoors, offers QOS and other features that allow for traffic control and prioritzation. It also offers a much higher spectral efficiency. How about 802.11g speeds but with 11 channels that don't overlap each other?

As to it being a long ways off, there are already WiMax like systems being deployed by several manufacturers, it won't take much to bring them to WiMax compliance.


Vamp
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I believe it actually..

The future is a combination of fiber and wireless. So why is it not believable.


Minister

join:2002-01-02
Fleeting
Nobody is doubting Wireless. Wi-Fi can evolve, 3G is finally taking off with Flash OFDM, EV-DO, EV-DV and other technologies. The doubt is in saying Wimax is the all encompassing answer.


qos and voip wireles

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reply to Matt
Re: All hype

Hmm, I've got an idea.. use voip over the stuff and sell 5000 wireless minutes for $39.99/month hehehe.. and no cell phone taxes!!!! Yay......
do to landlines the same as cellular..
That is the killer app, not broadband for broadband's sake!

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 reply to wifi4milez
Re: Wimax certainly looks good......

said by wifi4milez See Profile:
I am pretty confidant that wimax will come to market and will help to alleviate the always terrbible "last mile" problem many companies face.
That's the argument used by the WIMAX crowd that I have the most problems with.

In my own situation, I have a big last mile problem that WIFI doesn't solve. Unfortunately there nothing about WIMAX makes it perform any better. The problems are all NLOS. The terrain NLOS problems make distances longer than a few miles irrelevant. The "trees" NLOS problems aren't affected by WIMAX at all. The major part of any solution will have to be using lower frequencies (independent of the tech used on those frequencies).


NOCMan
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WiMax already out

I dont know what they mean by silicon being made in 2007 Towerstream already is deploying WiMax in certain areas.

»www.towerstream.com/products.asp

You can get Gigabit links if you can afford them. They are also undercutting telco t1 prices to garner business. Either way with this company and McCaw guys coming into the picture for residental WiMax you'll probably be seeing it next year if not sooner for lucky test markets.


Karl Bode
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Yankee Group is saying that before Wimax can be a competitor to DSL and Cable, there needs to be integrated chipsets built into devices like laptops to reduce the price for consumers and carriers....

The Wimax of today isn't the same mobile Wimax Intel thinks will challenge residential landlines down the road....

k_mumm

join:2001-06-14
Laramie, WY
reply to NOCMan
Sorry but they don't use Wimax. They use produts by Aperto Networks and I think Trango. Either way these are not open standard like wimax. They may work in similar ways but completely different tech.


pcscdma
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reply to 53059959
Re: All hype

Here is something similar - »www.petsovernight.com/


the wimax dude

@optonline.net
reply to NOCMan
Re: WiMax already out

Towerstream IS NOT WiMAX. No matter how much they claim it is and wish it is, it's not. They may upgrade at some point, but Towerstream is lying if they claim this is really WiMAX. There is NO WiMAX equipment.


the wimax dude

@optonline.net
De-Hyping WiMAX

For more about why WiMAX isn't so hot, see:

»www.thefeature.com/article?artic···fb::4519


superdog
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join:2001-07-13
Lebanon, PA

If You want to know what the Pro's really think?, read this thread: »WiFi vs WiMax.....What's In The Future?
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Derek_Wildstar
Why the fck is Shane walking in there?

join:2001-02-24
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Busted Mickey Mouse Lamp for President!

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If the company had applied the same PR effort to politics as they have Wimax, they could have elected a busted Mickey Mouse lamp to the office of President.
Busted Mickey Mouse Lamp for President!
Inanimate Carbon Rod for Vice President!


Now there's a ticket I can support!
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