No_Strings
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The OC | With their track record?
And I would trust it completely. |
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Bill_MI
Bill In Michigan
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Royal Oak, MI
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Spyware detection *has* to be independent. I don't think Microsoft has the ability to be independent with their political climate. It will be interesting to watch the definition of spyware "evolve". |
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Kayrac
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join:2001-09-29
Rochester, NH | reply to No_Strings
Re: With their track record?
gates said his home computers have been infected by adware/malware, and now he finally makes software for it  |
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pcdebb
RIP dadkins
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It'd be a hoot I try to install it, and my current AV or firewall flagged it as being malicious 
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Mike
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Re: Independent?
I agree kind of. If Gator sued Lavasoft.. imagine what slime are going to sue Microsoft.
I wonder what the loop holes will be to get on the 'ignore' list or will they shock me and be another S&D clone. 
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swiftymc
join:2004-02-15
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| Just what we need
Someone give me one reason why we should trust microsoft to protect us against something they were originally leaving us wide open to...
and hey....heres an idea...FIX YOUR F*CKING BROWSER AND WE WOULDNT HAVE THESE SPYWARE PROBLEMS!!!!!!!
We dont need more add-on CRAP taking up memory so one program can fix another |
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swiftymc
join:2004-02-15
Mansfield Center, CT
| reply to pcdebb
Re: With their track record?
said by pcdebb  :
It'd be a hoot I try to install it, and my current AV or firewall flagged it as being malicious
No doubt it would...Microsoft would find a way to profit off it via a 3rd party, like report back all thepeople who have sextracker cookies and automaticly signs every email address used in outlook, up for tons of porn email!! |
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Steve
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| reply to swiftymc
Re: Just what we need
said by swiftymc :
heres an idea...FIX YOUR F*CKING BROWSER AND WE WOULDNT HAVE THESE SPYWARE PROBLEMS!!!!!!!
That won't do it.
Even with every possible technical precaution - and XP/SP2 goes a long way - there will still be users who will install anything if asked to. Until "idiot users" are addressed, spyware is going to be a fact of life.
Whether Microsoft's solution will be any good remains to be seen.
Steve
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ame055
join:2003-07-01
ME
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ye Microsoft sells us crappy buggy software, then releases a million windows updates to patch the problem.
Why can't they test their stuff more, so we users don't have to do it for them (for free).
What worries me is if Microsoft somehow decides to make this spyware tool built into future windows editions. Just like the silly excuse for a firewall they put into Windows XP !!!
They are making other companies go bankrupt by monopolizing everything.
IMAGINE IF in a 100 years the ONLY software company on earth is MICROSOFT !!!  |
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
| in reality
i think it is as much a behavior problem that anything. web programmers have conditioned people to have to download a plug-in for every fucking thing. A trend needs to start where more things are implemented on the server side and through .NET. If the good guys get people less addicted to downloading plug-ins then the public will be more skeptical to download just anything.
on that note, I wish MS would just buy Mcaffee and get it over with, they already provide everything MS wants to do and hell the new security center in XP2 is a direct ripoff of Mcaffee. Hell Mcaffee even sees MS firewall. |
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TAPEUUP
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Yeah right! Microsoft will detect everything NON-MICROSOFT installed on ur computer as spyware... |
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Kim Jong
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Re: Just what we need
said by ame055 :
ye Microsoft sells us crappy buggy software, then releases a million windows updates to patch the problem.
Why can't they test their stuff more, so we users don't have to do it for them (for free).
What worries me is if Microsoft somehow decides to make this spyware tool built into future windows editions. Just like the silly excuse for a firewall they put into Windows XP !!!
They are making other companies go bankrupt by monopolizing everything.
IMAGINE IF in a 100 years the ONLY software company on earth is MICROSOFT !!!
Every software needs patches, microsoft is a god damn OS it needs more patches then average software.
'Just like the silly excuse for a firewall they put into Windows XP !!!'
Better then nothing, if they didn't put anything in it there would be idiots bitching about how there is no firewall in windows xp.
'They are making other companies go bankrupt by monopolizing everything.'
Umm go take some business classes.
'IMAGINE IF in a 100 years the ONLY software company on earth is MICROSOFT !!! '
Not gonna happen.
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GeekNJ
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| Anti MS BS!
Would be nice, just 1 time, when a post on MS comes up that every anti-MS person just ignore it if they have nothing of value to add.
Weird that everyone complains about MS and IE and when MS says they are looking to enhance functionality to address the items, someone finds flaw with them.
I welcome all MS solutions, just as I welcome everyone elses. In the end, the beneficiary is usually the consumer with more choices.
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i1me2ao
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| microsoft
i would try it. just because i recall the days when there was no standard and software would not run and was very buggy. micro came along and helped propel the industry. i do not understand why every one hates microsoft so much and dont really care why. |
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swiftymc
join:2004-02-15
Mansfield Center, CT
| reply to Kim Jong
Re: Just what we need
What ever happened to some court order not to include IE with windows installs?
Didnt they have this beef with netscape because they dont have as good a chance of getting their browser out there because Windows already has a packaged browser.
Im liking the spreading of firefox, especially when they hit that 1 million download mark early. Everyone needs to help spreading the word. Everyone needs to do what they can to spread it to more people and help rid the world of this evil virus code named Internet Explorer. |
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rshoch
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join:2003-09-01
Santa Ana, CA
| reply to TAPEUUP
Keeping the world safe
The following sent to me was purportedly purloined from the the Microsoft Director of AntiSpyware office. The following is a small sample of the malware that MS will vigorously defend all PC's against:
Ad-Aware, Spybot S & D
VirusScan, NAV, KAV, F-Prot, F-Secure, AVG, Avast, ...
ZoneAlarm, Sygate, Outpost, Tiny, ...
RealPlayer
Logitech
AOL, Google, Earthlink, Yahoo
AIM, IRC, YIM
Firefox, Opera, Safari
Lindows, Linux, Unix
JAVA - all flavors
Open Source - no exceptions
Anything connected to Scott McNealy, Larry Ellison, or Steve Jobs.
All 3459 pirate copies of Windows at the Justice Department. |
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Bill_MI
Bill In Michigan
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Royal Oak, MI
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| reply to Mike
Re: Independent?
By the political climate I mean Microsoft will be in the business of pick-n-choose what and how they report "spyware".
Anyone that loves or hates Microsoft can agree they are damned-if-they-do and damned-if-they-don't on a constant basis. Too constant to be effective in spyware detection.
Hehe... The comments are already showing my point. |
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exocet_cm
I am the law
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join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
clubs: | Why use microsoft spyware utilities...
When so many other anti-spyware utilities are available for free? |
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jap
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| reply to i1me2ao
Re: microsoft
said by i1me2ao :
i do not understand why every one hates microsoft so much and dont really care why.
Exactly. |
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TAPEUUP
Hell, Do A New Install
join:2003-03-04
Birmingham, AL
| reply to GeekNJ
Re: Anti MS BS!
said by GeekNJ :
Would be nice, just 1 time, when a post on MS comes up that every anti-MS person just ignore it if they have nothing of value to add.
Weird that everyone complains about MS and IE and when MS says they are looking to enhance functionality to address the items, someone finds flaw with them.
I welcome all MS solutions, just as I welcome everyone elses. In the end, the beneficiary is usually the consumer with more choices.
Yeah, would B nice.... What a GEEK! |
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