Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs:
| TV still sucks.
Doesn't matter how it's delivered 95% of TV is pure crap aimed at people who have the sense of humor of a moron.
said by Weird Al Yankovic:
Now why did I ever pay for this junk?
I hooked up eighty channels and each one stunk
Just brainless blood and guts, and mindless T & A
It's awful, it's putrid, it's crummy, it's stupid, gonna throw my set away
Just my negative opinion.
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"Affluence separates people. Poverty knits 'em together. You got some sugar and I don't; I borrow some of yours. Next month you might not have any flour; well, I'll give you some of mine." - Ray Charleshttp://www.cafepress.com/maxolasersquad |
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
Premium,VIP
join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
clubs: | ADSL2? Get Fiber to the Home so we can interact!
DSL will still be too slow and the answer is FTTH.  |
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs: | I wonder...
What type of picture quality I can get with 478k down and pots of packet loss. Which is exactly what I am getting right now on my DSL line. |
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zno
join:2002-01-08
Atlanta, GA
| bring it on...
there's certainly a market for this. people who hates cable but can't get satllites for whatever reason.
but how long would it take Bells to deploy ADSL2+ in first place?
soon we're gonna see lots of threads with "sync but no tv" issues.
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joebear29
join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL | reply to Maxo
Re: TV still sucks.
Couldn't you say the same thing about the Internet - 95% is total crap.
Of course, much like tv, the 5% that you do not feel is crap is why you subscribe. |
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Corvus
Flaming Tards Since 2003
Premium,VIP
join:2003-11-26 | reply to Doctor Olds
Re: ADSL2? Get Fiber to the Home so we can interact!
For delivering TV over DSL you need FFTN, I think it's enough for residential market.
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Jesus saves, but only Buddha makes incremental backups. |
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
Premium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
 ·Cox HSI
 ·Speakeasy
| reply to joebear29
Re: TV still sucks.
said by joebear29  :
Couldn't you say the same thing about the Internet - 95% is total crap.
Of course, much like tv, the 5% that you do not feel is crap is why you subscribe.
Yup. I get cable because of:
•NHL Centre Ice (though, not this year)
•Toonami
•Adult Swim
•Discovery Channel networks
The rest, I pretty much never watch.
-tom
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"Some people have morals, standards and ideals about quality, but I'm an American: I couldn't care less." --Tony Pierce (paraphrased) |
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dslwanter
Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH
Premium
join:2002-12-16
Lowellville, OH
·Armstrong Zoom In..
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to zno
Re: bring it on...
I think it may be a good thing. Only thing is if that DSL loses sync, your TV will lose the signal as well. So in my case not sure if I would want it, though my sync problem looks like it's fixed (crossing my fingers). But hey this could very well drive Cable out of business. If people like SBC offer DSL cheaper than what Cable Providers charge for Cable Modem service, TV will likely be less as well.
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sweepy17
join:2004-07-21
Apex, NC | It is time to bring the GREEDY Cable providers to their knees. Time Warner especially. Maybe we can then move to Ala Carte and pay for the channels that WE want, not what "They" want to give us. |
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reub2000
Premium
join:2001-12-28
Evanston, IL
| reply to nixen
Re: TV still sucks.
said by nixen :
said by joebear29 :
Couldn't you say the same thing about the Internet - 95% is total crap.
Of course, much like tv, the 5% that you do not feel is crap is why you subscribe.
Yup. I get cable because of:
•NHL Centre Ice (though, not this year)
•Toonami
•Adult Swim
•Discovery Channel networks
The rest, I pretty much never watch.
-tom
The channels I watch:
-Commedy Central
-Adult Swim
-History Channel |
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Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs:
| reply to joebear29
said by joebear29 :
Couldn't you say the same thing about the Internet - 95% is total crap.
Of course, much like tv, the 5% that you do not feel is crap is why you subscribe.
Yes, but the internet is an entirely different medium. I don't feel the two can be compared.
One thing I was thinking that may come good out of this, is since there is limited bandwidth maybe they would have an option do purchase just the channels you wants. So I could order only Fox for Simpsons, and King of the Hill, Cartoon Channel, IFC, SCI-FI, Weather Channel, CNN, and just a few others and not be forced to pay for channels in a bundle I will never watch or ever want to watch. This would increase my chance of buying pay-for-tv programing.
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"Affluence separates people. Poverty knits 'em together. You got some sugar and I don't; I borrow some of yours. Next month you might not have any flour; well, I'll give you some of mine." - Ray Charleshttp://www.cafepress.com/maxolasersquad |
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joebear29
join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL
| The comparison is valid for the point I was making - both mediums have large amounts of crap, but enough "quality" so that people generally subscribe.
Of course, everyone's definition of quality is different. If there were no other channels, I would get satellite just for ESPN and HBO, but others consider those channels worthless. |
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zno
join:2002-01-08
Atlanta, GA
| reply to sweepy17
Re: bring it on...
just did google on adsl2+ and found this:
"downstream data rates are increased to up to 24 Mbps on phone lines as long as 3,000 feet, and 20 Mbps on lines as long as 5,000 feet."
»www.lsilogic.com/technologies/in···l2_.html
so, FTTH is not really necessary. FTTC should be adequate for this.
i'm curious how all this would work...
STBs better come with built-in 802.11g unless running cat5 to every room is included in stardard installation.
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Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs:
| reply to joebear29
Re: TV still sucks.
said by joebear29 :
The comparison is valid for the point I was making - both mediums have large amounts of crap, but enough "quality" so that people generally subscribe.
How about suffice to say we disagree on that point. But as you say there is enough "quality" for enough people to subscribe.
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"Affluence separates people. Poverty knits 'em together. You got some sugar and I don't; I borrow some of yours. Next month you might not have any flour; well, I'll give you some of mine." - Ray Charleshttp://www.cafepress.com/maxolasersquad |
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IanR
join:2001-03-22
Madison, NJ
1 edit | TWC don't get it...
..They appear to want to offer ONLY thru some kind of closed end system which raises the costs. Unless there is some FCC Law against it why can't they just offer a range of Tv Channels whcih the consumer and pick from and pay p.m. Then the user could tune in via a media PC? I am sure that this is the way to go rather than trying to shift some protected and expensive BOX.
I like many others already get a pretty fast broadband service so why attach it to only an ADSL2+ roll-out? |
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hedyd4u
Premium
join:2003-12-16
Schenectady, NY
| Channel Choice
When I can pick and pay for only the channels that I want to watch will cable be a good deal. Since there is more profit to bundle channels this will not change until cable has to compete with other providers in the same area. Yes some areas do have more than one cable provider but not enough. There is not enough demand for someone to build new to compete and I am against cable doing what the telcos do with reselling lines.
The best way to be heard is for all people to cancel cable then tell their cable company what they have to do before anyone will sign back up. The company will then make a choice. The problem is you will never get enough people to turn the idiot box off to make this successful.
Fiber has a long way to go before they can really challenge the cable companies. |
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Yowzaaah
Ours Go To Eleven
join:2000-12-14
DamnFlat, OH
clubs: | reply to joebear29
Re: TV still sucks.
Couldn't you say the same thing about the Internet - 95% is total crap. Of course, much like tv, the 5% that you do not feel is crap is why you subscribe. Well.......that and the p0rn. |
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Tikker_LoS
join:2004-04-29
Regina, SK | reply to Corvus
Re: ADSL2? Get Fiber to the Home so we can interact!
www.sasktel.com
Offers TV over DSL using ADSL type 1 (not adsl2, not yet anyways) |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| Cinci Bell Would be the 2nd Telco in Ohio.
Here is a link to another telco in Ohio that already offers TV over their copper lines. »www.chillicothetelephone.com/tv/···els.html
Phone, TV, & High Speed Internet. |
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
Premium,VIP
join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
clubs: | reply to Tikker_LoS
Re: ADSL2? Get Fiber to the Home so we can intera
Try enjoying the dropouts and the small resolution you will get from that.
It can't even support HDTV, much less a regular resolution TV stream. |
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