SSX4life
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| We're all gonna die!!!
lol we're all gonna die @ this rate! Next thing I hear there will be a hole in the ozone layer! Oh wait they sky is falling!!!
As quoted from Monty Python and the search for the holy grail, "Run away!!!! Run away!!!!"
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keyboard5684
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|  A little dramatic.
I think the article is based on someone that apparently just looks at statistics.
I think everyone that can is taking a pro-active stance on these things that this person says will kill the internet. We already know about the problems, we are fixing them.
His last statement, there is something called SPF which fixes that problem. SPF can make sure the sender is real. |
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dslwanter
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This brings up a good point though as insane as it may sound. Like the Black Out of 2003, we keep adding too much we risk outages like that. And that's how the internet works, things are added all the time. I do begin to wonder.
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Defcon888
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San Bruno, CA | The Internet...
Die ? ! Never ! No! NEVER ! IT WONT HAPPEN AAHHHHHHHHH O_O
*Runs away!*
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exocet_cm
In memory of dadkins
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| reply to SSX4life
Re: We're all gonna die!!!
Wasn't the internet supposed to fail a few months back? Somebody said something about viruses or worms, something like that. I don't remember, I think it did make front page news on BBR...
Oh yeah, and everything was supposed to fail on January 1st, 2000.
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Matt
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| Thanks for the chuckle....
Hannu H Kari, professor at the Helsinki University of Technology, has apparently come to the revelation that "There are many bad people who want to create chaos on purpose."
Thanks for the chuckle this morning. 
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exocet_cm
In memory of dadkins
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| Eat your own words...
"There are many bad people who want to create chaos on purpose."
I don't know if he is bad or not, but isn't he creating (or trying to) create chaos by telling people the world internet is going to end?
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jester121
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Lake Zurich, IL
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| Sheesh...
I really have to wonder who the hell is running IT at the places where these "researchers" and columnists work. Every month I'm reading some sort of doom and gloom about the huge spam problem, and how it's going to stop users from ever using e-mail.
I just checked the statistics for the domains I administer and, for the past month, we've outright rejected 65% of the e-mail received due to RBLs and related checks, and another 10% was identified as spam and properly tucked away into the user's junk box. Less than 1% was missed, and we had zero reported false positives. Oh, about 4% of massages had a virus or some sort of exploit inside, and were filtered and deleted. Since each client has a different, redundant anti-virus solution that runs on the desktop machine, I know that no infections got past the mail server.
It took me more time to log in and check these statistics than I spent on managing our anti-spam arsenal for the month.
My point is -- once you know how to block it, spam isn't a problem at all. Yeah, there's some bandwidth used, but that's basically zero marginal cost. Isn't the whole point behind computers that fact that they don't mind doing boring repetitive tasks 24 hrs a day?
Even scarier is I'm doing all this on a shoestring budget and still getting pretty good results. WTF are these big companies doing? |
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IGGY
No Guru Just Here To Help
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join:2001-03-30
Chatham, IL | reply to exocet_cm
Re: We're all gonna die!!!
»'Electronic Jihad'
»www.iggyz.com/WN/83104.html |
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rolande
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| What a groundbreaking revelation...
There is also a need to improve user identification.
"Currently there are no guarantees that a named sender is the real sender of an e-mail," Kari said. -- Sapa-DPA
This is such a monumental finding. I can't even believe this hasn't gotten more press! I'm blown away... (not)
If the guy was even worth listening to for a few seconds, he'd actually have some of his own original ideas to offer for solving some of the issues. I think he just likes to get attention and blow smoke, but offer nothing of any real substance. How lame 
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the niTz
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Sahuarita, AZ | reply to jester121
Re: Sheesh...
they must be related to my school IT a teenager could probably hack there network:D |
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jester121
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| said by the niTz  :
they must be related to my school IT a teenager could probably hack there network:D
And the teens at your school probably do so, on a regular basis! |
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MarkyD
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Oklahoma City, OK
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"There are many bad people who want to create chaos on purpose."
As opposed to those who want to create chaos on accident?
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the niTz
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Sahuarita, AZ | reply to jester121
Re: Sheesh...
lol there just 2 me and my friend my friend got offered a job at the scool while i who tells my friend how to do most of the stuff got the boot ohwell i feel a good senoir prank coming on;) |
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B
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said by jester121 :
we've outright rejected 65% of the e-mail received due to RBLs and related checks, and another 10% was identified as spam and properly tucked away into the user's junk box. Less than 1% was missed, and we had zero reported false positives.
Except of course for all of those potential false positives that users can NEVER report, because you outright blocked them by trusting someone else's block list (the RBLs) or by your other related checks. I'm just quite wary of third party block lists.
Sure, a persistent blocked sender MIGHT eventually telephone your user to complain about a lack of response, and that MIGHT filter back to you, but...
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jester121
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| B, I'm cautious using RBLs myself, and have stayed away from the more draconian ones.
I wasn't claiming that there's a 100% effective and painless solution to spam, but rather, that it's a very manageable problem and not the end of the world as we know it.  |
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Doctor Four
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| reply to MarkyD
Re: errr....
Like the thousands of clueless computer users that get
infected with worms or spamming zombie trojans, and then
try to infect others unknowingly?
One of the regular posters to the Security forum,
blitzenzeus, has as his posting tag "the biggest error
is sitting in front of the keyboard". These are the kinds
of users that create chaos by accident, even though they
don't know what they're doing...
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aztecnology
O Rly?
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join:2003-02-12
Murrieta, CA | reply to SSX4life
Re: We're all gonna die!!!
I think Al Gore wants his internet back... |
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stainedblue
join:2000-06-21
Oakland, CA
| reply to Doctor Four
Re: errr....
Viruses and spam depend on a functional network to propagate. The idea that they will so overwhelm the network to make it unusuable is just doom and gloom.
ISPs filter emails. Programs on a client filter viruses and spyware. We will continue to filter data to keep up with the propagation of data that we don't want. People communicating with computers on a network is not ever going to go away except for maybe something better. |
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Wills
join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL
| reply to jester121
Re: Sheesh...
As an administrator, I'm suprised you don't see the root of the problem.
You need to look further than your outside interface. You make the same assumption that I see many administrators falling prey to.
"If I block it, then it doesn't exist."
There is more to the internet than your outside interface. Just because you block it from entering your system, doesn't mean that the traffic your blocking isn't weighing down the system between the sender and you.
That is the issue at hand.
These big companies aren't clueless as you suspect. They just have the ability to see past their outside interface and recognize the root of the problem.
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