knightmb
Everybody Lies
join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN | Surprise?
This doesn't surprise me since ISP companies are blocking port 25 and many other services as well. |
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the niTz
Premium
join:2004-07-05
Sahuarita, AZ | yea me either but if they do start blocking ports and rendering more and more of our internet useless couldnt we sue them? i mean i hate lawsuits but that would put them in there place |
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joebear29
join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL
| said by the niTz  :yea me either but if they do start blocking ports and rendering more and more of our internet useless couldnt we sue them? i mean i hate lawsuits but that would put them in there place You could sue them, but it would be difficult to win, especially if they disclose the port blockage and have a semi-legitimate reason for it. |
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the niTz
Premium
join:2004-07-05
Sahuarita, AZ | yea i get that too... hope cox doesnt do this |
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cork1958
Cork
join:2000-02-26
Fruitport, MI | reduce the price
If they're going to start blocking ports like that, they better start reducing prices also. Why pay for only part of what you're supposed to get? |
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EliTechie
@158.73.x.x
| Windows XP SP2
One possible culprit is Windows XP SP2.
As part of a security enhancement, the TCPIP.SYS was modified with Windows XP Service Pack 2 to limit the machine to 10 pending TCP/IP connections
This breaks most Gnutella based software.
There are TCPIP.SYS hacks that remove this limit and allow your P2P applications to function again.
One such patcher can be downloaded at: »www.lvllord.de |
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ryanthadude2
Blah
join:2004-01-24
Walkerton, IN
| Alot of us already know about the XP SP2 TCPIP problem. However, this isn't the problem in this case. It is definitely something within the network. Even before I applied the patch to XP, BT even worked. Now I can't even swap files on Yahoo with my family. Very frustrating when I can't send them pictures or video  |
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indigo
join:1999-08-22
Covina, CA
| Not surprising
I knew it was only a matter of time before the ISPs took notice and followed the path that the colleges and universities have laid out for their networks. Namely, traffic shaping, server bans, p2p blocking, by-the-byte metering. IOW, bandwidth nazi stuff.
I can confirm that it's not AT&T. They provide my T1 line and p2p has worked just fine for me. Interesting that they are deciding to deny it. Kind of like what OOL did when their upload cap first came out.
Broadband in this country is only getting worse. |
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stet
Volitar Prime
join:2002-03-08
Warren, MI
1 edit | What exactly are they blocking?
Are they blocking all P2P use, or just uploading (sharing) through P2P? The reason that I ask this is that uploading through P2P is a violation of many ISPs TOS (no servers allowed). In this case, the ISP can put an upload block in place in order to enforce their TOS. They shouldn't put a block in place for downloading.
quote:
With file-trading the unspoken bread and butter of many carriers, a sudden ban on the practice is highly unlikely.
For many ISPs, this is completely false as heavy P2P users (especially those who share gigs of data 24/7) put a lot of strain on ISPs by using much more bandwidth then the average user. Some ISPs would love to lose these so called "bandwidth abusers" as customers.
Edit: I always thought that porn was the "unspoken bread and butter" for ISPs.
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pcscdma
Chocobo Chocobo Random Battle
Premium
join:2004-01-14
Winterset, IA
clubs:
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Re: Not surprising
said by indigo :...bandwidth nazi stuff. ;):p
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| And so it begins......
And so it begins. A port closure here, an application stopped there.
Soon, you will have to pay more (if you can) for services we take for granted now. As the ISP's get larger and the choices get fewer, we will not have the choice so many here crave. |
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tspencer1
@insightBB.com | reply to stet
Re: What exactly are they blocking?
I believe it is an upload block but this also is preventing host connections for some programs as a result. |
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stet
Volitar Prime
join:2002-03-08
Warren, MI
| I'm under the impression that some P2P apps automatically offer what you are downloading as an upload while you are downloading it. This would probably also be a TOS violation for some ISPs.
Not to mention being a good way to get noticed by the RIAA/MPAA/SPA/IDSA/etc.
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scooter2479
Mediacom Customer Service
join:2004-04-30
Springfield, MO
| reply to moonpuppy
Re: And so it begins......
From part of mediacoms TOS:
The Service is available and delivered only through the cable television transmission facilities operated in Customer’s Mediacom Cable System. Subject to applicable law, Mediacom reserves the right to determine and change, on an ongoing basis, the features, functionalities, components, specifications, prices, eligibility requirements, restrictions and all other aspects of and terms and conditions applicable to the Service or any version of the Service, as well as the nature and extent of the facilities and resources allocated to support the Service, including by instituting or changing speed or imposing or changing restrictions on authorized users or uses or limits on number and storage capacity of e-mail accounts, Webspace maximums or bandwidth usage. All of these may vary among different Mediacom cable systems or among different locations within any Mediacom cable system. The Service and the Internet utilize shared network facilities and not all facilities are owned or operated by Mediacom. Mediacom does not guarantee or warrant speed, latency, bandwidth, access to particular content or Internet sites or compatibility of the Service with any Customer’s or User’s computers, equipment, operating systems or software.
Authorized Users and Uses
The Service shall not be used by Customer or any other User in any way that violates any law or regulation, subjects Mediacom or any of its suppliers, contractors, agents or affiliates to liability or violates any policy, terms or conditions applicable to the Service, including Our Acceptable Use Policy and any Website terms and conditions referred to in this Agreement.
Customer and each User agree that those actions may include immediate suspension or termination of the Service or use of usernames, passwords, IP or e-mail addresses or URLs, or removal of or restriction of access to content or material that Customer or other Users make available that we believe to be obscene, indecent, offensive, libelous, slanderous or defamatory or in violation of any law, any third party’s copyright or privacy, publicity, trademark or other right or any of the policies, terms and conditions applicable to the Service. We may take those actions WITHOUT notice to Customer or any other User.
Subject to applicable law, We may also, at any time and periodically, without prior notice:
· Change, add to or remove portions of the Service (including content, features, functionality, hours of availability and equipment requirements); and
· Institute and change the features and functionality of the Service and limits and restrictions that affect features and functionality (including changes in upstream or downstream speed, limits on number and storage capacity of e-mail accounts, changes in Web hosting maximums, blocking of access to certain Websites, limits on downloads, institution or changes of traffic prioritization or protocol filtering measures).
Packages, services, features, functions, specifications, prices and other aspects of Mediacom’s services are subject to change or discontinuance at any time and from time to time without notice or consent, except as otherwise limited or required by applicable law or by a subscriber’s Customer and User Agreement. |
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Nightwchtr
join:2001-09-10
Falls Church, VA | reply to ryanthadude2
Re: Windows XP SP2
Shouldnt have upgraded, LOL |
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chaddz3
join:2002-04-02
Cedar Rapids, IA
| Still working for me, i dunno what yer talkin bout
I download alot of video shorts thru P2P.. like bizarre car accidents, people racing each other, video of news stories that i didnt get to see on TV, and that kind of thing, and all of my P2P apps still work ok yet. They never have problems connecting, and most of the time the downloads arent brutily quick but once in a while the transfer rate will bounce off the cap during a download... As far as uploading goes i dont know if that works or not because I disable sharing on all the P2P apps that allow me to do so because it slows my surfing speed down when i start getting tons of downloaders. The only thing i can think of being wrong is a problem in the affected peoples local area thats causing a problem that mediacom hasnt found yet... probably a broken router or something.
thats all i can say.
Chad |
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ryanthadude2
Blah
join:2004-01-24
Walkerton, IN | Re: Still working for me, i dunno what yer talkin
It may work for some, and not for others. It was hit or miss. Unfortunately, I was hit. But now it seems to be fixed at the moment. |
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Anon Name Here
@mindspring.com | reply to scooter2479
Re: And so it begins......
That terms of service was taken out of context. I don't think that's what it really meant. |
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whomeynot1
@rr.com
| reply to ryanthadude2
Re: Still working for me, i dunno what yer talkin
I'm having similar trouble, but it only seems to affect one computer...mine. The desktop connected directly to the wireless router is working and connecting find to p2p but the one connecting wirelessly isn't...even when I hookup directly. Any ideas? I'm using RR |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to scooter2479
Re: And so it begins......
Go ahead and quote the TOS. We all know it is filled with double speak and vague language. According to the TOS of most ISP's, the following could be illegal:
- routers
- downloading too much (subject to to the whims of the ISP)
- P2P (legal or illegal)
- email (amounts and content)
- IM programs (since they can be "servers")
Shall I go on? |
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