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Comments on news posted 2004-10-27 09:43:53: For weeks, our Mediacom forum has been filled with complaints about a sudden inability to use p2p applications; complaints mirrored by users in our Insight broadband forum and by users over at the official Bearshare forums. ..
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  knightmbEverybody Lies
join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN | Surprise? This doesn't surprise me since ISP companies are blocking port 25 and many other services as well. | |
| | the niTzPremium
join:2004-07-05
Sahuarita, AZ | Re: Surprise? yea me either but if they do start blocking ports and rendering more and more of our internet useless couldnt we sue them? i mean i hate lawsuits but that would put them in there place | |
| | | | | Re: Surprise? said by the niTz:yea me either but if they do start blocking ports and rendering more and more of our internet useless couldnt we sue them? i mean i hate lawsuits but that would put them in there place You could sue them, but it would be difficult to win, especially if they disclose the port blockage and have a semi-legitimate reason for it. | |
| | | | the niTzPremium
join:2004-07-05
Sahuarita, AZ | Re: Surprise? yea i get that too... hope cox doesnt do this | |
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| | reduce the price If they're going to start blocking ports like that, they better start reducing prices also. Why pay for only part of what you're supposed to get? | |
| | | Windows XP SP2 One possible culprit is Windows XP SP2.
As part of a security enhancement, the TCPIP.SYS was modified with Windows XP Service Pack 2 to limit the machine to 10 pending TCP/IP connections
This breaks most Gnutella based software.
There are TCPIP.SYS hacks that remove this limit and allow your P2P applications to function again.
One such patcher can be downloaded at: »www.lvllord.de | |
| |  RyanThaDudeIndiana's 1 Zero
join:2004-01-24
Walkerton, IN
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| Re: Windows XP SP2 Alot of us already know about the XP SP2 TCPIP problem. However, this isn't the problem in this case. It is definitely something within the network. Even before I applied the patch to XP, BT even worked. Now I can't even swap files on Yahoo with my family. Very frustrating when I can't send them pictures or video  | |
| | | | | Re: Windows XP SP2 Shouldnt have upgraded, LOL | |
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| | Not surprising I knew it was only a matter of time before the ISPs took notice and followed the path that the colleges and universities have laid out for their networks. Namely, traffic shaping, server bans, p2p blocking, by-the-byte metering. IOW, bandwidth nazi stuff.
I can confirm that it's not AT&T. They provide my T1 line and p2p has worked just fine for me. Interesting that they are deciding to deny it. Kind of like what OOL did when their upload cap first came out.
Broadband in this country is only getting worse. | |
| |  pcscdmaChocobo Chocobo Random BattlePremium
join:2004-01-14
Winterset, IA | Re: Not surprising said by indigo:...bandwidth nazi stuff. ;):p
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 stetVolitar Prime
join:2002-03-08
Warren, MI
1 edit | What exactly are they blocking? Are they blocking all P2P use, or just uploading (sharing) through P2P? The reason that I ask this is that uploading through P2P is a violation of many ISPs TOS (no servers allowed). In this case, the ISP can put an upload block in place in order to enforce their TOS. They shouldn't put a block in place for downloading.
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With file-trading the unspoken bread and butter of many carriers, a sudden ban on the practice is highly unlikely.
For many ISPs, this is completely false as heavy P2P users (especially those who share gigs of data 24/7) put a lot of strain on ISPs by using much more bandwidth then the average user. Some ISPs would love to lose these so called "bandwidth abusers" as customers.
Edit: I always thought that porn was the "unspoken bread and butter" for ISPs.
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| | | | Re: What exactly are they blocking? I believe it is an upload block but this also is preventing host connections for some programs as a result. | |
| | | stetVolitar Prime
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Warren, MI | Re: What exactly are they blocking? I'm under the impression that some P2P apps automatically offer what you are downloading as an upload while you are downloading it. This would probably also be a TOS violation for some ISPs.
Not to mention being a good way to get noticed by the RIAA/MPAA/SPA/IDSA/etc.
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| | And so it begins...... And so it begins. A port closure here, an application stopped there.
Soon, you will have to pay more (if you can) for services we take for granted now. As the ISP's get larger and the choices get fewer, we will not have the choice so many here crave. | |
| |  scooter2479Mediacom Customer Service
join:2004-04-30
Springfield, MO | Re: And so it begins...... From part of mediacoms TOS:
The Service is available and delivered only through the cable television transmission facilities operated in Customer’s Mediacom Cable System. Subject to applicable law, Mediacom reserves the right to determine and change, on an ongoing basis, the features, functionalities, components, specifications, prices, eligibility requirements, restrictions and all other aspects of and terms and conditions applicable to the Service or any version of the Service, as well as the nature and extent of the facilities and resources allocated to support the Service, including by instituting or changing speed or imposing or changing restrictions on authorized users or uses or limits on number and storage capacity of e-mail accounts, Webspace maximums or bandwidth usage. All of these may vary among different Mediacom cable systems or among different locations within any Mediacom cable system. The Service and the Internet utilize shared network facilities and not all facilities are owned or operated by Mediacom. Mediacom does not guarantee or warrant speed, latency, bandwidth, access to particular content or Internet sites or compatibility of the Service with any Customer’s or User’s computers, equipment, operating systems or software.
Authorized Users and Uses
The Service shall not be used by Customer or any other User in any way that violates any law or regulation, subjects Mediacom or any of its suppliers, contractors, agents or affiliates to liability or violates any policy, terms or conditions applicable to the Service, including Our Acceptable Use Policy and any Website terms and conditions referred to in this Agreement.
Customer and each User agree that those actions may include immediate suspension or termination of the Service or use of usernames, passwords, IP or e-mail addresses or URLs, or removal of or restriction of access to content or material that Customer or other Users make available that we believe to be obscene, indecent, offensive, libelous, slanderous or defamatory or in violation of any law, any third party’s copyright or privacy, publicity, trademark or other right or any of the policies, terms and conditions applicable to the Service. We may take those actions WITHOUT notice to Customer or any other User.
Subject to applicable law, We may also, at any time and periodically, without prior notice:
· Change, add to or remove portions of the Service (including content, features, functionality, hours of availability and equipment requirements); and
· Institute and change the features and functionality of the Service and limits and restrictions that affect features and functionality (including changes in upstream or downstream speed, limits on number and storage capacity of e-mail accounts, changes in Web hosting maximums, blocking of access to certain Websites, limits on downloads, institution or changes of traffic prioritization or protocol filtering measures).
Packages, services, features, functions, specifications, prices and other aspects of Mediacom’s services are subject to change or discontinuance at any time and from time to time without notice or consent, except as otherwise limited or required by applicable law or by a subscriber’s Customer and User Agreement. | |
| | | | | Re: And so it begins...... That terms of service was taken out of context. I don't think that's what it really meant. | |
| | | | | Go ahead and quote the TOS. We all know it is filled with double speak and vague language. According to the TOS of most ISP's, the following could be illegal:
- routers
- downloading too much (subject to to the whims of the ISP)
- P2P (legal or illegal)
- email (amounts and content)
- IM programs (since they can be "servers")
Shall I go on? | |
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| | Still working for me, i dunno what yer talkin bout I download alot of video shorts thru P2P.. like bizarre car accidents, people racing each other, video of news stories that i didnt get to see on TV, and that kind of thing, and all of my P2P apps still work ok yet. They never have problems connecting, and most of the time the downloads arent brutily quick but once in a while the transfer rate will bounce off the cap during a download... As far as uploading goes i dont know if that works or not because I disable sharing on all the P2P apps that allow me to do so because it slows my surfing speed down when i start getting tons of downloaders. The only thing i can think of being wrong is a problem in the affected peoples local area thats causing a problem that mediacom hasnt found yet... probably a broken router or something.
thats all i can say.
Chad | |
| | RyanThaDudeIndiana's 1 Zero
join:2004-01-24
Walkerton, IN | Re: Still working for me, i dunno what yer talkin It may work for some, and not for others. It was hit or miss. Unfortunately, I was hit. But now it seems to be fixed at the moment. | |
| | | | | Re: Still working for me, i dunno what yer talkin I'm having similar trouble, but it only seems to affect one computer...mine. The desktop connected directly to the wireless router is working and connecting find to p2p but the one connecting wirelessly isn't...even when I hookup directly. Any ideas? I'm using RR | |
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| | Seems like a bad router or something This just seems like someone trying to startup alot of FUD on P2P being blocked. When it's most likely just some bad router or something in the network causing the problem.
I am not saying its a problem that doesn't need fixing. But that we don't need to start mass panic over a simple network failure.. | |
| | | | Re: Seems like a bad router or something All of sudden Winmx stop working on my Cox Cable except
when I use the option "unable to accept UDP or TCP connection" in the Winmx menu. That allows user behind a
firewall and unable to do anything about it limited use on Winmx. Don't know if it is just me being block or network wide, but it prevents me from having a primary connection on
Winmx. I think the ISP's are trying to limit upload
bandwidth. Previously had Qwest DSL. Qwest never block
applications but cut my bandwidth to 256 up and down from
about 900 up and 1500 down. Didn't offer to cut price.
So I don't think it is a "bad router or something" and its
gonna get worst. | |
| | | | Well if it is a bad router, why hasn't it been fixed in the nearly 2 months since the problem began? ISPs have been telling customers that nothing is wrong and many of us have wasted countless hours trying to find a fix or a workaround. People aren't panicking they are frustrated and speculating as to what is really going on because they are being kept in the dark by tech support people. | |
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| | WinMX: Cox Cable, LinkSys, XP SP2 I was experiencing issues uploading/downloading any file with WinMX, regardless of port assignment (or "Firewall, can't do anything about it") settings, port forwarding on the Linksys, etc.
I've visited forums high and low to determine the issue. Most forums seemed to point the finger at ISP P2P port filtering. Not to say that isn't the case in your particular setup, but eventually I discovered something that worked.
It appears that SP2's version of TCPIP.SYS (Event_ID 4226) limits possible connections to 10, making it very difficult for WinMX users to connect. This was especially true in my case since I'm running both a W3/FTP server through IIS 5.1
Downloading a patch that installs a rogue version of TCPIP.SYS that is runtime configurable (you can set max connections) fixed the issue. The particular patch I used is called "EvID4226Patch" and should be easy enough to find through Google. I followed the simple instructions to set my connections to 50 (uses a text CMD interface) and instantly WinMX began to work for uploads and downloads.
This requires a bit of faith on my part, I'm wary of trusting lesser known third-party system file versions. I'll be vigilantly watching over the next several days to detect any changes in system stability, and report back if any issues are found.
Here is a summary of my configuration:
-TCPIP.SYS patch: 50 connections possible (vital)
-WinMX: Secondary Connection
-WinMX: Incoming TCP listening on 6699
-WinMX: In / Out UDP listening on 6257
-Router: Forwarding 6699-6699 TCP to my private IP 192.168.1.xxx
-Router: Forwarding 6257-6257 UDP to my private IP 192.168.1.xxx
-Router: NO DMZ IS USED.
Hope this helps. Below is a table of filtered ports by COX, as disclosed by them on their support website. (Apologies in advance if formatting gets mungled by post.)
Port Transport Protocol Direction Reason for Filtering
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25 TCP SMTP Both* SMTP Relays
80 TCP HTTP Inbound Web servers, worms
135 UDP NetBios Both Net Send Spam/Pop-ups, Worms
136-139 UDP, TCP NetBios Both Worms, Network Neighborhood
445 TCP MS-DS/ NetBios Both Worms, Network Neighhood
1433 TCP MS-SQL Inbound Worms, Trojans
1434 UDP MS-SQL Inbound Worms, SQLslammer
1900 UDP MS-DS/ NetBios Both Worms, Network Neighborhood
27374 TCP Subseven Both SubSeven Trojan | |
| | | Hm Downloading a patch that installs a rogue version of TCPIP.SYS that is runtime configurable (you can set max connections) fixed the issue.
Can you get in trouble for that? | |
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