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Comments on news posted 2004-11-17 14:36:35: Earlier this week a user in Tampa wrote in to inform us Verizon contractors had been rupturing gas and water lines as well as structural supports in their effort to lay Verizon fiber (presumably for Fios service). ..

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pv8man666

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WHAT!

WHAT!


pv8man666

@in.us
what!

you've got to be kidding me


TooFunny

Guess they should have used Verizon WISP

...to get those underground utility downloads faster.

HAHA


LBDSL
Lightning Bolt
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join:2002-01-07
Auburn Hills, MI
1-800 miss dig

I Think Verizon forgot to call 800 miss dig, lol


Mospaw
D O N E
Hawaiian Jellyfish
join:2001-01-08
The Pacific
FIOS = CHAOS

It's amazing how the fiber is causing all this problem when the copper seems to have been laid with very little fanfare.

Looks like it's time for Verizon to find a new fiber installation contractor.


MuDvAyNe
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join:2002-03-02
Brooklyn, NY
reply to TooFunny
Re: Guess they should have used Verizon WISP

said by TooFunny:

...to get those underground utility downloads faster.

HAHA
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Transmaster
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join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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Who in the world is

Venison hiring to do this work. Must be lowest bid incompetents. I have seen this before, rather then get the best to do the job, they hire the cheapest and now they are going to pay, and pay, and pay. My Spell check changed Verison's name to Venison I like it.:)
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disorder
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Alexandria, VA
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reply to LBDSL
Re: 1-800 miss dig

They have been struct by hurricanes and now this? Sucks for Florida.

camarozz2828

join:2003-07-17
Hanover, MA
LOL!!!

LOL you sure you dont mean 1-800-dig-safe:D

kpatz
MY HEAD A SPLODE
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Manchester, NH

reply to Transmaster
Re: Who in the world is

You're probably right. They couldn't outsource that work to India or China, so they hired the cheapest untrained chimps they could find to lay the fiber for them.

Hopefully eventually these greedy corporations will pull their heads out of their fat A$$E$ and realize that you get what you pay for. Either pay now, or you end up paying more later!
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travanx

join:2002-01-15
Glendale, CA

There are other possible issues

Its not as easy to miss lines as you guys think. I am an engineer at a mainly surveying company. I guess it depends how they went about digging up the street, etc. The survey company might have been off, or maybe whatever plans they were using could have been off, or like was noted, the company digging probably are a bunch of morons. But there could have been other factors in this besides the people digging. Not sure how tight of control the surveys are in Florida.


pnh102
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reply to Mospaw
Re: FIOS = CHAOS

said by Mospaw See Profile:

It's amazing how the fiber is causing all this problem when the copper seems to have been laid with very little fanfare.
That's because when all the copper was buried long ago, there were far fewer pipes, sewers, electrical cables and whatnot underground. Verizon is laying fiber optic cable in heavily populated areas with many obstacles beneath the ground that were not there previously.
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pnh102
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reply to kpatz
Re: Who in the world is

said by kpatz See Profile:

Either pay now, or you end up paying more later!
But if you pay more now, your short term profit falls significantly
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72276539
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Atlanta, GA

reply to pnh102
Re: FIOS = CHAOS

said by pnh102 See Profile:

said by Mospaw See Profile:

It's amazing how the fiber is causing all this problem when the copper seems to have been laid with very little fanfare.
That's because when all the copper was buried long ago, there were far fewer pipes, sewers, electrical cables and whatnot underground. Verizon is laying fiber optic cable in heavily populated areas with many obstacles beneath the ground that were not there previously.
And who knows how much of the previous buried stuff was actually marked correctly. Or if company X buried gas pipes, was bought by Y who then sold the route to Q who then took the route and spun it off making company M. You really think in a situation like what I described accurate records were passed along?
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UnKown
The Underground Network

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Orlando, FL
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reply to travanx
Re: There are other possible issues

very true, and since the water table in florida is so high many of the burried lines and pipes are only but a foot or so under. However the blue prints should have told you were the lines/pipes were exactly. After the first few accidents you would have thought that they would have used more caution. Unfortunately it wasnt the case.


Aggie Dan
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Frisco, TX
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reply to pnh102
Re: FIOS = CHAOS

Doth mine eyes deceive me?

pnh102 is actually posting a comment that wasn't EXTREMELY anti-RBOC?

Somebody buy Satan a sweater.


Frossty
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reply to UnKown
Re: There are other possible issues

indeed^^^^


minidu
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Mackinac Island, MI

reply to travanx
He said in the past few months, crews have trenched about 5.5 million feet of earth in Hillsborough County and laid about 4.5 million feet of fiber-optic cable.

Verizon also is looking at other means, including using ground-penetrating radar and other technology, to locate lines before crews dig.

Neither Elek nor county officials knew how much the sewer line and water main break at Lakeview and Dale Mabry - and the resulting repairs - would cost. The tab for repairing the 188 other breaks that have occurred since August approached $103,000 last week.

When the lines are broken, county crews make the repairs, VanDyke said.

County auditors examine the cause of each break and determine whether Verizon or water department officials are to blame. The responsible party is billed, said Rich Cummings, section manager for line maintenance for the water department
Seems to me that Verizon has done a lot of work already, and is doing a fairly good job, And seems to me it is not 100% Verizons fault.

If a few broken pipes, and lines are the price to be paid for a Fiber connection, and a good future network for Tampa, then that is a small price to pay.
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Slidetbone
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Land O Lakes, FL

reply to pnh102
Re: FIOS = CHAOS

That's because when all the copper was buried long ago, there were far fewer pipes, sewers, electrical cables and whatnot underground. Verizon is laying fiber optic cable in heavily populated areas with many obstacles beneath the ground that were not there previously.
RIGHT ON THE MONEY!
It's happening to Tampa and will happen to every other metro area covered by Verizon that is pending FIOS.

The city will blame them for the broken pipes but who is blaming the city for the outdated plans?
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