Doctor Olds
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1 edit | Intentional?
Thanks XP for being so safe out of the box. LOL "Out of the Box experience?" NOT
The sad thing is they were told and now we suffer with their huge mistake.
Yes, you buy MS's XP Operating System and now you have to be a security expert just to use it?
If XP were a car, you would have to be a Certified Mechanic to keep it running.  |
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Rejected One
I Suffer From Id10t Errors
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i had 128 diff ones from one infection of downloadertrojan.A installed LOADS of adware i believe 48 diff apps
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mavizao
join:2004-08-21
Brazil | Solution
The only solution i see is DDOS all these sites (grokster) and possibly anyone else that advertise on them later. |
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cork1958
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1 edit | just think
Just think. If you hadn't had XP how many more you would've had? Guarantee it would've been many, many more! Also try using Spywareblaster, »www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html and Spybot S&D, »www.safer-networking.org/en/down···dex.html. The internet isn't all about fun and games without knowing something now a days.
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wesm
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| Catchy title
18 different entries in Program Files .. an IE that won't even start ("toolbar.exe has experienced a serious problem and must close"), though the shadow of a window revealed two, possibly three, new bars .. five new icons on the desktop, one of them with a naked woman and the title of "SEX" .. and last, but not least, an active desktop background warning you that your computer may be infected with spyware and how to buy a program to remove it.
Oh, the good humor ...
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Doctor Olds
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| reply to cork1958
Re: just think
said by cork1958  :Just think. If you hadn't had XP how many more you would've had? Guarantee it would've been many, many more! Baloney. 100%
I have tested a Win 95B Install, a Win 98 Install and a Win 98 SE Install with no infections compared to XP. |
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cork1958
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Fruitport, MI | So have I and what you say is baloney!! |
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Steve32
join:2001-06-18
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2 edits | reply to Doctor Olds
Re: Intentional?
said by Doctor Olds :Thanks XP for being so safe out of the box. LOL "Out of the Box experience?" NOT You can't expect it to be safe out of the box when it's two years old and new workarounds comes out almost everyday. It was "semi" safe out of the box 2 years ago, today it is not. That's why it's supposed to be updated.
BTW, I just went to the site and with "out of the box" XP SP2 installed, I didn't get one popup or installed program. I call that a great out of the box XPerience.... for now at least 
said by Doctor Olds :If XP were a car, you would have to be a Certified Mechanic to keep it running no, you just need to hit the windows update button once a month. |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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Hercules, CA | One unpatched XP box...
Just goes to show you, Patch/Update them systems people!
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jeraden
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| reply to wesm
Re: Catchy title
My dad ran into one of those sites on his computer I guess. He called me over last weekend because his computer was hosed. Tons of spyware and stuff. A lot of them are the same ones mentioned in that link. Unfortunately I had to end up reformatting the computer as there were too many to get rid of... While I'm cleaning them up, new ones were installing. |
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Mechano
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Antarctica | reply to wesm
There is Linux....you know..... |
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Defcon888
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None of my computers have ever been infected with spyware or adware, ever (through routine spyware scans with AdAware and Spybot, none have ever been detected, and no abnormal computer behavior has ever been found)
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yock
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These kinds of tests are nearly useless. The true test would be a fully patched system withOUT add-on software (other than standard anti-virus). An unpatched OS of any kind is going to have exploits, so why not test IE's resilience to spyware while it's fully updated and sans the myriad of "hassleware" that is AdAware, Spybot, et al?
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N3OGH
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| reply to cork1958
Re: just think
said by cork1958 :...The internet isn't all about fun and games without knowing something now a days.... No doubt, it's a jungle out there.
Just like you wouldn't park your car at the mall with the keys in the ignition, folks shouldn't be running broadband connections without a firewall and a NAT router. Spyware sweeping software and virus protections are also "musts" now.
Any "environment" is gonna have it's crooks, from the mall parking lot, to the digital world. People have to educate themselves and act accordingly.
With dynamic nature of the internet, and the millions of people using it, it's not surprising that a unpatched operating system, written several years ago, is not up to the challenge. That's what the patches are for.
I'm not defending Micro$oft, I think their bloatware is overpriced junk.... |
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justin
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| reply to yock
Re: Nearly Useless
Why is an "ordinary fresh copy of Windows XP" being sold for actual money when it is terminally broken? This is like selling tires with a known disintegration issue at 30mph along with a coupon for a tire swap. Or a car that can't make it from the dealership to the repair shop without failing.
MS gets away with bloody murder in terms of not bothering to push vital updates to its retail front, with zero monetary or legal consequences. |
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Galvage
join:2004-02-11
Taconite, MN
| reply to Defcon888
Re: Hah
I've seen a great deal of viruses upload onto a win98 machine that had no firewall through just 30 minutes of dial up while downloading an update for the ISP software. I can't tell how many customers when I used to work for an ISP would come into the frys store I was working at with 4 viruses or more they got within the first 10min of dial up.
I suppose AOL is good for something.
Also Olds you probably have a NF(natural firewall) through your router that protects all your other machines. But be warned if you try to visit some of the harder sites like say warez with them don't be suprised if you end up with serious problems shortly there after.
Also Most if not all new machines now come with SP2 installed which automatically protects most if not all of the vulnerabilities that came with the original version of WinXP. Plus now autoupdate is turned on out of the box so its more of a out of site out of mind thing with most new machines. The only way I could possibly think a hacker could do anything is if they could somehow emulate microsofts update site to your computer and create an update to let themselves in that way. But I'm sure microsoft has a great deal of protections for that already. |
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cbcalhoun
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Heath, OH | Damn Spyware
I was waiting for the point where any explorer window he opened just automatically closed after a few seconds...  |
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Tuulilapsi
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|  reply to yock
Re: Nearly Useless
said by yock :These kinds of tests are nearly useless. The true test would be a fully patched system with OUT add-on software (other than standard anti-virus). An unpatched OS of any kind is going to have exploits, so why not test IE's resilience to spyware while it's fully updated and sans the myriad of "hassleware" that is AdAware, Spybot, et al? I'm just wondering, exactly how would the test results change if AdAware, Spybot and such were not installed on the system? Are you implying that these programs somehow make IE more susceptible to exploits? And if not, then how does their presence on the system affect the test results?
Oh well, in any case I agree that it would be good to retest with a fully updated XP SP2 system. Now that would be yet another showcasing of why patching is important. |
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justin
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| said by Tuulilapsi : Oh well, in any case I agree that it would be good to retest with a fully updated XP SP2 system. Now that would be yet another showcasing of why patching is important. Not a very good test because we are currently a short distance from SP2 and so it only has a couple of holes. A better test is to wait until we are equidistant between sp2 and sp3 - say, about six to nine months from now - and then try with IE. I expect the malware community will be back in full swing via the expanded number of holes. Holes that microsoft would be pondering for inclusion into a possible sp3. I am basing this pessimistic conclusion on their track record for the last decade. |
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TELUS
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TELUS | -Not Safe For Work-
I know it sounds stupid, but there is a small portion of that video that's not safe for work.
[I've viewed two minutes so far] |
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