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Comments on news posted 2004-11-23 12:07:17: Wired News explores a p2p service dubbed "Weed" that pays the artists royalties. Users can download tracks and play them three times, but upon a fourth listen they're prompted to pay for the track. ..

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Goober
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Increase in Alternatives

It's good to see that alternative models are popping up. Something will stick someday.

The music industry won't be the ones that will find the solution that succeeds. So, having 3rd party developers and others coming up with all these alternatives that we're seeing more and more of lately is great.


not-so-anonymous

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DRM

and the fact most DRM can be broken
all*

Cod

join:2000-07-05
Greensboro, NC

reply to Goober
Re: Increase in Alternatives

I wish there was a system to pay the artists directly bypassing the labels. I'd be all for paying the artists & not pirate music as long as the money went SOLELY to the artist. Until that happens, I will be "stealing" music from the newsgroups. The labels & RIAA raped me for years in the late 80's & 90's with their price fixing (which they were convicted for) and I'm justifying my theft as getting even for paying 18 bucks a CD 10 years ago. I have over 300 CD's I've bought so I've got a ways to catch up. Eye for an eye.


techie
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...

It's a gateway p2p app.


stateq2
J Dilla
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Jackson, MS
forget this

more labels should join magnatune


Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
Yeah I really like their model quite a bit....


KeepOnRockin
Music Lover Forever
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Beaverton, OR
reply to stateq2
said by article:

Users can download tracks and play them three times, but upon a fourth listen they're prompted to pay for the track.
No, thanks!


DrewCapu
Giant Diehard

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California
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Instead of users earning money

... by passing tracks to friends,

Can I earn a Free iPod instead?


Slidetbone
Mazin Go
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Land O Lakes, FL

reply to Cod
Re: Increase in Alternatives

said by Cod See Profile:

I wish there was a system to pay the artists directly bypassing the labels.
I second that. The RIAA deserves not a single penny! Hope there are more alternatives like this one.


a1808991020

join:2004-11-15

reply to Cod
how do you figure the label shouldn't get any money, there the ones taking all the risk its there money making the albums and promoting them. they are entitled to a return on there investment. and considering they are the ones taking all the risk they are entitled to the majority of the profits


Slidetbone
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said by a1808991020 See Profile:

how do you figure the label shouldn't get any money, there the ones taking all the risk its there money making the albums and promoting them. they are entitled to a return on there investment. and considering they are the ones taking all the risk they are entitled to the majority of the profits
So...do you think it is fair that an artist selling gold and platinum sales gets about 2 to 4% of the profit while the label gets 40 to 70%?
Whilst the labels are putting the face and investment to promote the artist, they do not pay them well for it. It is to assume that the album will get the promotion and exposure to get the artists gigs. And that there is another issue as the artist will be going through a promoter that will charge him another percentage of the total ticket sales. And even that depends on the relationship he has with the "middlemen".

Do the numbers....the multinationals are sucking the artists dry.
Indies are fairing better. That is why RIAA places the blame on their slump in sales to P2P when in fact their product realls sucks and the indies are capitalizing on that hole.

scareg

join:2003-10-27
Walla Walla, WA
but.......

What's to stop me downloading the file and using a wav file recording program to record the song and burning it to cd?

xirian
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join:2003-01-26
Beacon, NY
reply to DrewCapu
Re: Instead of users earning money

only if you refer 348478 people and complete 99 offers.


aztecnology
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Re: but.......

said by scareg See Profile:

What's to stop me downloading the file and using a wav file recording program to record the song and burning it to cd?
Digital elves encoded within...
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boogi man

join:2001-11-13
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reply to scareg
One could but why go through the trouble? Is you time worthless? Mine isn't. Where I don't agree with what they do or how they do it I don't have the time to steal it's just easier to be selective at iTunes or get cheap CD's from Wally World

tdkyo

join:2002-12-07
Rochester, NY
Useless P2P

This software is crap IMO. DRM in this program? That's worse than KaZaA full of spywares.


Anon15

@rr.com
reply to a1808991020
Re: Increase in Alternatives

The risks the RIAA take is in pushing off the "Ashlee Simpsons" of the world, as legitimate artists, and expecting us to pay $15-$20 for a CD of this crap.
When you are selling "TRUE" talent, there is NO risk!


lupinia
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join:2004-08-24
Harrisonburg, VA

reply to tdkyo
Re: Useless P2P

The point is that other music distibution models are being created, eventually we'll get one that will go mainstream. There will always be piracy, but a lot of would-be pirates would pay for their music if they thought it was priced and distributed fairly.

Personally, if CDs drop to an average cost of $8 each (for a 15-song CD or so), I'd buy more of them.

jnasc770

join:2001-01-04
Riverside, RI
WEED..hehe

Can you smoke it after you install it.....:D


Vvian Kalyss

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Re: but.......

I fail to see how other (already existing) media players (assuming files downloaded from Weed can only be played on proprietary players) will even care about DRM. Weed player -> digital output (or even better, a sound capture program) -> record -> save -> hey presto, naked mp3.


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