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Comments on news posted 2004-12-01 09:58:24: Despite efforts from several groups to get Pennsylvania Governor Edward G. to veto the effort, Rendell signed the controversial HB30 into law last night. ..
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  AbBaZaBbA Premium join:2002-07-10 Wildomar, CA | and verizon...
Rendell Signs PA Law and Verizon signs a donation check. | |   Maggs Premium join:2002-11-29 Woodside, NY | That's Unconstitutional
Isn't that under the restraint of free trade, Verizon will never allow muni efforts to happen anywhere in its territory. | |   woody7 Premium join:2000-10-13 Torrance, CA 1 edit | Hmmmm.........
I would challenge this in court......wether you like muni involvement or not, I don't think this is legal...... -- BlooMe | |   Bill Light Up The Halo Premium,VIP join:2001-12-09 clubs: | reply to AbBaZaBbA Re: and verizon...
This happens all the time. Groups pay off politicians daily. | |   Maggs Premium join:2002-11-29 Woodside, NY | reply to Maggs Re: That's Unconstitutional
That's like getting approval from Justin to DDOS BBR. -- Better Luck next time. | |  masrotaj
join:2003-07-09 Fort Lauderdale, FL | unbelievable
Wow ok Verizon the O2 in the air in Pa is MINE you must get MY PERMISSION TO BREATHE IT . For a large royalty this will be a privilage I might grant. John | |  markopoleo
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Go figure, money > common sense. | |   atangel Now What?? Premium join:2002-02-18 Bronx, NY
1 edit | dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.....
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Dell Dimension, XP Pro, 2.4 Ghz, 512MB, BEFSX41, ZAP 5, NOD32, BOClean, a2, Adaware, Spybot, MW Pro, The Bat! | |   pnh102 Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD
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| Thanks Fast Eddie!
Ok, so signing this bill to prevent the city from wasting more money on something it does not need starts to make up for the whole get-out-the-felon vote drive 
Maybe now the city can stop pussy-footing around its real problems and get down to the business of fixing them. -- Hey Fast Eddie... you're next! | |   atangel Now What?? Premium join:2002-02-18 Bronx, NY | I've seen your avatar. Having a change of heart about the telcos? You want them in charge now?  | |   hambone6666 Sigmarick Said Arse
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"the bill provides that Verizon will contribute at least $7 million a year and all ILECS will contribute 10% of any inflationary increase in their charges to a special Education Technology Fund (E-Fund)."
Same old BS as their E911 fees that went right into the executives pockets instead of what it was meant for...like saving kids drowning in boats. Or was it a different 'charge'? -- Metcalfe's Law The power of a network grows in proportion to the square of the number of its nodes | |  ossito16
join:2004-07-31 Whiting, IN | here is a chance
what is going to take to spark off another boston tea party? muni better start organizing and planning. the courts are not going to help anybody. we need to help ourselves, stop yapping, and fight. what the hell is it going to take? | |   CPM
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| reply to Bill Re: and verizon...
When you payoff someone and you are not from a "offical company" it is called a bribe. Then you are part of a compamy it is call doing good business.
VOTE GREEN PARTY AND THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN ANYMORE! -- Broadwayman.com - Internet portal for Everything Broadway and New York. | |   Karl Bode News Guy join:2000-03-02
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1 edit | reply to atangel Re: Thanks Fast Eddie!
There are two kinds of people who support these bans:
1. Are employed by the incumbents, and as such are motivated by their own financial security.
2. Hard-line fiscal conservatives who either own businesses or have some money in their pocket. They justify their greed with the trickle-down effect argument, a k a: give corporations everything they ever wanted, and some of it might just filter down to you, the little person.
Both are motivated by personal gain, and neither has a community's best interests in mind. | |   KoolMoe Aw Man Premium join:2001-02-14 Annapolis, MD clubs:
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| reply to pnh102 If the people of PA don't want their local jurisdiction, township, whatever, to not invest in a muni operation, then they should use traditional methods to stop it - just like has happened in the Illinois Tri-counties and other such places.
There's NO reason to make this a law, especially when it was proposed by the local ILEC!
I completely agree that the idea of free wireless is silly when Philly and like cities have so many other problems. But *I* have a real problem with such blatantly favorite, Big-Corp-sponsored legislation. Such a mix is never a good thing and it just shows how deep Corporate America has their hands in dictating policy. KM -- I hope I don't have to say "Told ya so" Iraq Casualties | War Propaganda Air America - Radio for the Rest of US | |  nasadude
join:2001-10-05 Rockville, MD | we're number 13....
and dropping rapidly in the world broadband race, thanks to enlightened politicians like Ed and the fine fellows at the FCC.
Keep up the good work guys! I've always wanted to have 3rd world services. | |  lesopp
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| reply to AbBaZaBbA Re: and verizon...
I would like to point-out to all those that seem to take great pleasure in bashing Bush as well as Republicans in general, that this Governor is a Democrat. By granting Verizon monopoly control in this matter proves that Democrats are just as bad as Republicans when it comes to big business. | |  Beeper Part Of The Problem
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| reply to Karl Bode Re: Thanks Fast Eddie!
said by Karl Bode :Both are motivated by personal gain, and neither has a community's best interests in mind. It is amusing, telling, and contemptible that you think that personal gain and community interest are exclusive concepts.
The community is funded by the those that have gained the most. -- Guaranteed Fear and Loathing. Abandon all hope. Prepare for the Weirdness. Get familiar with Cannibalism. | |   Steve I'm a PC, so shut up Consultant join:2001-03-10 Yorba Linda, CA
| reply to Karl Bode said by Karl Bode :There are two kinds of people who support these bans: Oh, so you know how to read everybody's mind? And you get to decide that there is "no such thing as principled opposition"?
3. Those who believe that the government should simply not compete with private industry. As hard as it is to unseat a private monopoly, a government monopoly is even harder.
You may very well not wish to adopt this as one of your governing principles, but that doesn't mean it's not a principled, honorable position that's looking out for the community as much as you are (and without any taint of being on the take from the telcos).
Steve -- Stephen J. Friedl Unix Wizard Microsoft MVP Tustin, California USA my web site | |   Maranello ChannelFlip Premium,MVM join:2000-12-08 Butler, PA
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| reply to Karl Bode said by Karl Bode :Both are motivated by personal gain, and neither has a community's best interests in mind. Our wonderful Governor is already in hot water over an intentional loop hole he left in a bill against Pittsburgh's proposed commuter tax (among other things). He's registered as a democrat but I would class him as a moderate.... his vote swaying to the winds of the highest bidder. -- "Watch the head humpers Gordon" | |
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