fegul
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Will there be some degree of anonymity implemented in it? That's the real crux in terms of P2P programs
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Vvian Kalyss
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LOL, make everyone a tracker. Hahah. That's a good one. Get ready to hear xxAA's cries of stop thief! No thank you, we've heard that song before.
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Vvian Kalyss
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Re: RIAA
Probably not, but the good thing is, they won't be able to take a file down merely by nuking the tracker, because hey presto, everyone is a tracker.
All you have to do is wait for a friend somewhere who is out of xxAA's reach put it in an ftp or something for you to grab.
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TexasGuy
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P2P will never has enough anonymity unless it is a paid service. There will be no company that will proxy themselves for free all the crazy bandwidth from P2P. I read somewhere that P2P is almost 40% peaks in daytime of total internet traffic. It is just too $$$.
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fegul
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What if it enabled others with high-speed connections to be proxy's? Just a stab in the dark.
Like the charachteristic of bittorrent, what if it sent the pieces to diffirent proxys (people running Exeem) before it reached the actual downloader? It might be a little slower, but there could be an option to toggle it on or off. |
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Corvus
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said by TexasGuy  :I read somewhere that P2P is almost 40% peaks in daytime of total internet traffic. It is just too $$$. True, the other 60% is Spam and DDOS. 
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Nerdtalker
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1 edit | Entertainment industry endorsing illegal practices
It speaks volumes about the entertainment industry that they've stooped so low to actually illegally DDOS somebody to protect their bloody royalties.
As far as I'm concerned, they're not only hypocritical, they're endorsing illegal practices. |
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Doctor Four
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1 edit | Re: Entertainment industry indorsing illegal pract
And of course, they'll publicly deny it. But private data
has a way of making itself public - look what happened with
Diebold's electronic voting machines. If something like
this ever got out that the content cartels were using less
than legal means (such as virii, trojans and DDoS attacks)
to stop filesharing, it would probably be the final nail
in their coffin. They would lose whatever remaining
credibility they had as a legitimate organization with
most of the public: everyone would see them as the bad guys.
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BodyBumper
join:2004-06-21
Beverly Hills, CA | Its about time
I've been waiting for longest for decentralized P2P I'm glad suprnova is taking the first steps . |
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Nerdtalker
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Re: Entertainment industry indorsing illegal pract
Time will tell how they managed to bring all these distribution centers offline.
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B
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| So How's It Different From Gnutella?
The well-written article specifically cites Gnutella as one of the first successful decentralized P2P efforts.
Of course, ALL the other P2P networks besides BitTorrent are ALREADY quite decentralized.
What does the "new" decentralized BitTorrent bring to the party?
I thought the whole point of a BitTorrent tracker WAS that it was an effective central tracking point. As Bram Cohen said from the beginning, BitTorrent was intended for LEGITIMATE file distribution, not mass copyright infringement. It's one of those very odd accidents that it's been embraced by file traders. (Why? Is it because it's just so successful at enforcing sharing and punishing leeches, leading to high throughput?)
I don't see exactly why a decentralized BitTorrent would be significantly better than the already-decentralized alternatives.
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sivran
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| BitTorrent has long been lauded for its speed. A decentralized version could potentially be just as fast, without the "vulnerable" tracker.
Then again, there is precedent protecting trackers. Google anyone? Trackers are little different from search engines.
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B
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| said by sivran :BitTorrent has long been lauded for its speed. A decentralized version could potentially be just as fast, without the "vulnerable" tracker. No, I don't think it could! My point above was that, I think, BitTorrent's speed is DIRECTLY attributable to the success it has in enforcing sharing AND to the single tracker model, allowing many, many people easy access to different bits of a file. (This ensures multiple uploaders and sufficient, decentralized bandwidth.)
Decentralizing that would seem, to me, to cut off most of the reason that BitTorrent currently works so well (many people coming to a single source for finding each other and different sections of a file, all of whom are effectively prevented from leeching).
Of course, it would be nice to be wrong. Let's see!
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MizTEcK
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North York, ON | nice!
w00t w00t!! |
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Pz_
join:2001-03-31
Brownsburg, IN
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Re: Spread the love
...and that song carries a copyright. So if you reproduce it, you owe! |
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batmanst
join:2003-12-23
Beverly Hills, CA
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Re: RIAA
its 90 percent spam 10 percent peer2peer
said by TexasGuy :
I read somewhere that P2P is almost 40% peaks in daytime of total internet traffic. It is just too $$$.
True, the other 60% is Spam and DDOS.
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DrewCapu
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join:2001-12-19
California
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bit torrent was never meant to have any annonymity.
If you want annonymity, just swap external hard drives with your closest friends  |
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Watada
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Re: So How's It Different From Gnutella?
bt has it's speed because the main(original client) has not upload limiting. This new exeem client is guaranteed to have upload limiting. But this is not the main reason, it is also because everyone knows everyone that has the file so there is no searching, if this could be implimented(not possible to be complete but most) into the decentralized version it might just be as fast |
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batmanst
join:2003-12-23
Beverly Hills, CA
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Because it allows you to hide behind a brick wall or remain anonymous? Why stand in the middle of the road and get run over for nothing?
or good for nothing. You wouldn't take off your clothes in public would ya? You can do it in your own privacy in your restroom but if they caught you do this, it's illegal. That's what I call snooping in your little bedroom to catch you in the act. The law is crazy my friend, it doesn't respect our privacy, it doesn't care what you think, it has no feelings. It makes money and punishes people at the same time, is not right. Plundering our wealth first then our property as well to put us on the street to crawl like the rest of the homeless.
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batmanst
join:2003-12-23
Beverly Hills, CA
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Re: RIAA
said by DrewCapu :bit torrent was never meant to have any annonymity. If you want annonymity, just swap external hard drives with your closest friends Thats kind of silly, can you be more practical about it? To say that has no logical sense, for amusement and to entertain others? |
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