sirsloop
Premium
join:2004-02-18
New York, NY
1 edit | the worst.
Gator is the WORST and is a completely pointless piece of software.
Ever use IE auto-complete? |
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File Quit
Mac Geek
Premium
join:2002-11-28 | How about just remembering passwords? Is it THAT hard?  |
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Anti_Cyrix
Premium
join:2003-03-06
Sacramento, CA
| reply to sirsloop
said by sirsloop  :Gator is the WORST and is a completely pointless piece of software. I couldn't agree more. Well, they do have a point though... to slow down your system and provide you with a crapload of ads. |
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brianiscool
join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL | Gator is my favorite! It steals my information without me knowning. Also get unknown emails and postal mail sent to my house. Now I know how much stranger's enjoy getting to know me : ) Give's me the warm fuzzy feeling |
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rmartin73
Premium
join:2004-11-29
Columbus, OH
| Wow, another whoper from Gain...
That just takes the cake. The face that "they" say its wrong to remove it from your or any other computer. That has to be illegal. Why can't we stop them?
by the way do you know that if you go to gator.com it WILL NOT put spyware on your comp?
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bedelman
Premium
join:2004-06-20
Cambridge, MA
| Further points in the article
Also of possible interest, some format problems with the license (details: »www.benedelman.org/news/112904-1.html#format ):
Gator's license, as currently presented by Kazaa, merges its section headings in with body text, without bold type or line breaks to draw attention to the section headings. Six months ago, the Kazaa-Gator installer didn't have this problem.
Gator's license, as previously shown by Kazaa, used to have a "printable version" link that opened the license in Notepad, for easy searching (Edit-Find), printing, and resizing (the Maximize button, etc.). That link has been removed.
All in all, the license is harder to read now than it was six months ago. |
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woody7
Premium
join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA
 ·EarthLink
·DSL EXTREME
|  This is great......
I run a coputer lab at a high school and do most of the computer repair and networking among other things, and crap like this keeps me in "starbucks" cards....A teacher or a student brings me their laptop or tower and ask me why its so slow.....and bingo another card appears on my desk....I try to explain to read before they click, but I just get this glassy eyed stare,I then tell them to leave it with me and I will see what I can do....sometimes it's so bad It's easier to just format and reinstall....the second time I charge real money, and then the stare goes away and they start to get a clue...
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state
stress magnet
Premium,Mod
join:2002-02-08
Hampton, VA
clubs:  | reply to File Quit
Re: the worst.
Remember a password? Wait just a second there...are you advocating responsible computing?!  |
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joako
Premium
join:2000-09-07
/dev/null
 ·AT&T U-Verse
| Format C:?
quote:
"You agree that you will not use, or encourage others to use, any unauthorized means for the removal of the GAIN AdServer, or any GAIN-Supported Software from a computer." No use of packet sniffers either, please.
Is formatting a harddrive and re-installing windows an "authorized means for removal"? Does the license stipulate any penalty for these violations?
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou | According to their brooooaaaaaad wording, I seriously doubt it. |
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Cyron
join:2002-09-24
Charlotte, NC | reply to joako
The penalty is that you are no longer allowed to use their software.  |
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streetwolf
join:2002-02-22
Marlboro, NJ | reply to DaSneaky1D
RoboForm...RoboForm |
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Wills
join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL | reply to Cyron
Where are the thousands of ambulance chasing, money grubbing, frugal lawsuit, sue happy lawyers when you need them?
Why haven't these vultures decended on Gain and what they do?
Did they hire ones more evil? |
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David
No,there is another.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
clubs:
1 edit | Brought to you by:
www.pcpitstop.com for calling them "adware" and getting sued for it. So that is what thier new riches buys them..
Well gator.... YOU ARE STILL SPYWARE AND THIS JUST PROVES IT... |
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WhyADuck
Premium
join:2003-03-05
| Is this unauthorized?
What if I install a new hard drive and reinstall the O.S. and desirable software (Gator does not fall into that category!) on the new drive, and take a sledge hammer to the old drive? Is that considered an authorized method of removal? 
Realistically, I'd love to see Gator try to enforce that provision of their EULA - I mean, after all, they could put a provision in the EULA that if you use Gator you will allow them to sell your firstborn into slavery, but that doesn't mean any court would allow them to enforce it. And I really doubt that any court would ever enforce a provision like this either, so basically they might as well fart in the wind as to include a provision like that. Just because something is included in a license agreement does not in any way mean it's lawful or enforceable.
And then there's always the question, how would they ever know to begin with? If the flow of data suddenly stops, are they going to track you down to see if you removed their software, instead of perhaps just retiring an old computer or going on an extended vacation? |
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Nerdtalker
Working Hard, Or Hardly Working?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ
clubs:
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Re: the worst.
said by state :Remember a password? Wait just a second there...are you advocating responsible computing?! How about having a password more than 3 characters long?! I can't remember didly squat! |
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dumb_user
@losrios.edu | reply to state
Why use gator Just writr the passwords usernames and the urls on a piece of paper and put it under the keyboard it is safer than gator |
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sivran
Long Live The Suite
Premium
join:2003-09-15
Arlington, TX
clubs: | Sadly, that is probably true!  |
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sivran
Long Live The Suite
Premium
join:2003-09-15
Arlington, TX
clubs:
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to WhyADuck
Re: Is this unauthorized?
Oh, I doubt they'll even try--against most end users.
When Ben or some other spyware warrior actually violates the EULA and posts the results, THEN they'll point to the license and sue. You betcha. They may not have a case--EULAs are of dubious credibility as binding contracts--but they'll sue anyway.
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TCPA - Treacherous Computing
Kerio 2.1.5 - Best damn firewall
Licenses should be per user, Ditch Norton! Get F-Prot! |
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Vvian Kalyss
join:2003-10-14
Stage 5.0
clubs:
| On the other hand
By adding more frivolous inclusions into EULAs, it gets easier to prove that they are unenforceable and have no legal weight. EULAs != binding terms. Way to go, Gator! That's right, suck it up.
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Mikami Vvian, resident Girlfriend of Steel, care of the Tokyo-3 Middle Daughters Club |
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