TKJunkMail
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2 edits | Too bad the law was knocked down
The war against spam needs every method it can garner. It is too bad that the lawyers and judges will do their best to gut the fight against SPAM.
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Transmaster
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this is one of the oldest parts of Federal Law, and one of the first rulings of the Supreme court circa 1800. Spam is crap but it is commerce of a sort.
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Re: Too bad the law was knocked down
said by TKJunkMail  :The war against spam needs every method it can garner. It is too bad that the lawyers and judges will do their best to gut the fight against SPAM. My Web PageMy BlogJoin Red Room Forum Yea. Screw those bastards for trying to interpret and uphold existing laws... |
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jwsmiths4
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Re: not a suprise
yeah since that stupid study came out that said something like 1 in 4 people buy from SPAM... crazy |
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Mellow
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Salisbury, MD | Blind Justice
I say we forward all that "commerce" to that judges email. |
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moseley
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Re: not a suprise
As a nation, we have become a little too cavalier about our rights. Giving up rights to stop spam is wrong. Then States could tax inter-state commerce, tax internet purchases, tax email usage an a slew of other things.
Spam costs companies tons of money. What could be done under current laws is a class action law suit. If the risk of sending spam goes up it is no longer a cost effective way to advertise.
Current fraud laws could be used. New federal laws could be used. Using the postal Service to commit fraud is crime why not email.
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DaveNJ
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This is riduclus, and unnessary. Arent they about 100 million other things these courts could be doing. However maybe the judge has forgotten home rule.
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garagerock
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| our spam laws vs. offshore operations
until we face the reality that offshore operations are largely responsible for what we call spam, we will continue to pass "legislation" that's as worthless as the paper it's printed on. close the tax loopholes and force the cheap bastards to adhere to US laws, and spam will decline. until then, keep deleting the "xanax and russian brides for free!" emails until the cows come home... |
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said by DaveNJ :This is riduclus, and unnessary. Arent they about 100 million other things these courts could be doing. However maybe the judge has forgotten home rule. Wow. That was the sillyist, most ignorant statement I've EVER heard on this site.
What the hell do you think a court does? Exactly this. How did you get out of bed this morning...wait...you probably didn't. |
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ylen131
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Re: our spam laws vs. offshore operations
said by garagerock :until we face the reality that offshore operations are largely responsible for what we call spam, we will continue to pass "legislation" that's as worthless as the paper it's printed on. close the tax loopholes and force the cheap bastards to adhere to US laws, and spam will decline. until then, keep deleting the "xanax and russian brides for free!" emails until the cows come home... how do you force someone from Russia to adhere to us laws? |
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Anon00
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Re: not a suprise
said by moseley :Current fraud laws could be used. New federal laws could be used. Using the postal Service to commit fraud is crime why not email. Though getting junk mail isn't a crime so...
And there are laws to protect against out-right fraud, though not civil liability to the person receiving the e-mail, the system is just not equipped to dealing with the massive load that the Internet and E-mail brings. And yes, this is clearly an issue that the Federal government must act on and it is not up to the States to regulate commerce outside their borders but they happy to try to stop the conduct from occurring within their State, and as I understand it, it has been upheld that they can.
What will really stop spam is if stupid people receiving this crap will stop buying from them. I mean honestly, if no one signed up with AOL would they still send you 4 CDs a month in the mail?
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ylen131
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| said by Anon00 : said by moseley :Current fraud laws could be used. New federal laws could be used. Using the postal Service to commit fraud is crime why not email. Though getting junk mail isn't a crime so... And there are laws to protect against out-right fraud, though not civil liability to the person receiving the e-mail, the system is just not equipped to dealing with the massive load that the Internet and E-mail brings. And yes, this is clearly an issue that the Federal government must act on and it is not up to the States to regulate commerce outside their borders but they happy to try to stop the conduct from occurring within their State, and as I understand it, it has been upheld that they can. What will really stop spam is if stupid people receiving this crap will stop buying from them. I mean honestly, if no one signed up with AOL would they still send you 4 CDs a month in the mail? no they would send 10cds and would give you first 3 month free. |
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Anon00
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| said by ylen131 :no they would send 10cds and would give you first 3 month free. LoL, true. But I mean more on a widespread scale of them not getting new users. I remember I tried to cancel (and dang thats an hassle) an account I had with them (only signed up to their free offering to get a discount) and they were like offering a free year of service. Of course I still cancelled it 
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Derch
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Doesn't surprise me. |
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Thaler
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Encino, CA | reply to ylen131
Re: our spam laws vs. offshore operations
One BIG stick. |
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garagerock
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Louisville, KY | reply to ylen131
you don't, but the companies who are owned by citizens who do business here (read: send spam) shouldn't be allowed to so flagrantly disregard US laws. make them register (and pay taxes) here, and watch spam decline. simple. |
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hskrfan23
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Re: not a suprise
said by moseley :Current fraud laws could be used. New federal laws could be used. Using the postal Service to commit fraud is crime why not email. I would have to say because email is not a service of the federal government |
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jasso
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If someone were to attach a virus to major Spammers, it would be spread to every computer in world within a matter of days. I also wonder that if the US Government required all online businesses to register their IP addresses, how many spam companies would jump off the spam-wagon. =p |
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Transmaster
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Thing that is going to work is to set your own filters. I don't get near the spam I used to get thanks to the filters incorporated in to my mail clients. Bitching and moaning is not going to get rid of it we are just going to have to get used to it.
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ispjournalist
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most spam is fraud. doesn't require new laws. requires better enforcement. need more $$$ for the FTC, don't need more words on paper. |
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