Vamp
5c077
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join:2003-01-28
MD
 ·Verizon FIOS
| People need to learn about...
Security before they are even allowed to own a computer, computers should require license before people are allowed to operate them, shouldn't even be able to buy a computer without a license  |
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StudioTech
S2409W plus SA4250HD
join:2001-10-10
Edison, NJ | No matter how it's classified...
...we still don't want it! Why can't they understand that? |
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KillTheBums
| DEATH to ALL SPAMMERS !!!
Public execution by painful, slow, torturous death is the only JUSTICE for Spyware/Adware SPAMMERS.
Death to them I say, DEATH !!! |
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exocet_cm
In memory of dadkins
Premium
join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
clubs:   | Crap is crap
No way do I want something on my computer without my consent, PERIOD. |
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clarkemtp
join:2000-11-12
Corpus Christi, TX
clubs: | reply to StudioTech
Re: No matter how it's classified...
They "understand" that just fine. The problem is they don't *care* what you want. |
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Rob850
join:2003-04-11
Mary Esther, FL
| They shouldn't be allowed to do business PERIOD
Just as my topic explains they shouldn't be allowed to do business PERIOD!
No you shouldn't need a license but we do need shows like "call for help" now if G4 didn't buy out tech tv that would have worked but nope.
Rob
»www.robfwb.com - the chat room IS open! |
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Unregistered user
@cofs.net
| reply to StudioTech
Re: No matter how it's classified...
We also don't want spam and telemarketing calls. Why do we still get them? Money. The people behind these annoyances know how irritating they are, but they don't care, as long as there's a buck to be made.
There's no need for people to convine spyware vendors of how hated they are any more than they have to convince a burglar that his presence isn't wanted. They already know this and simply don't care. However, what is needed is for people to educate themselves. We have all these threats out there on the Internet--spam, viruses, spyware, trojans, phishing--and many people sail blindly on, blissfully ignorning the dangers, as if there's absolutely nothing wrong. |
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russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA | Analogies
Legitimate marketer:ethically challenged parasite ::
Legitimate businessman:Mafia operative |
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hedyd4u
Premium
join:2003-12-16
Schenectady, NY
| Is there a specific law against???
WhenU has frequently been accused of gaming search engine ranking results, and spearheaded a lawsuit against Utah to prevent passage of tough anti-spyware laws.
They fight to keep the laws from stopping them even though someone with an ounce of integrity would know what they do is wrong. Maybe the virus writers should target spyware companies and claim for their defense that an overwhelming majority of computer uses are happy that scumware companies' computers are crippled. |
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Chameleon
Premium
join:2004-11-24
Virden, IL | reply to Vamp
Re: People need to learn about...
Look WhenU even offer you a download of "anti-spyware" software. »www.whenu.com/scan_pc.html
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I have no idea what I'm doing, but someday I'll understand this stuff!!! |
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gzuszgr8
Premium
join:2004-11-19
Dover, DE | Crapware
No one should be allowed to install anything to my pc at home or on my work pcs with out my direct permission. Then if i want to unistall such crap I dont want to have to use 50 anti-spyware programs just to clean it off |
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alex4life
Alex4life
Premium
join:2001-06-22
Delta, BC
| One Day
One day, there will be so much spyware and crapware out there that the computers of non tech savvy people will be so bogged down, they won't work. Something will give eventually, because people won't pay every few weeks to have their computer fixed when it becomes swamped with this crapware.
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"For in the final analysis, our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this small planet, we all breathe the same air, we all cherish our children's future, and we are all mortal." - John F. Kennedy |
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pog
Premium
join:2004-06-03
Kihei, HI
 ·Hawaiian Telcom
| Good thinking!
said by Xblock CEO:
"We would never partner with a company that was using security holes to install their software" Porter continues. "Or, as the case may be, using affiliates to exploit the security holes and reaping the benefits while claiming innocence."
I appreciate the insight in the above sentiment. It's refreshing to see a for-profit enterprise measuring something in terms other than (potential) dollars.
Further, I think anything that exploits security holes like this should automatically be defined as malware... no wriggle room possible. |
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xblock
join:2004-12-16
Willoughby, OH | Important Correction: For the record it was not WhenU or Claria making the pitch. (Although they would have gotten the same answer.) It was two of the "larger" adware companies. I prefer not to name them.
regards,
Wayne Porter |
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xblock
join:2004-12-16
Willoughby, OH
| Correction
Important Correction: For the official record it was not WhenU or Claria making the pitch. (Although they would have gotten the same answer.) It was two of the "larger" adware companies. I prefer not to name them. Just wanted to make that clear.
regards,
Wayne Porter |
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA | WHORES!
...the lot of 'em. They can put make up on a pig but it's still a pig. |
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TamaraB
Question The Current Paradigm
Premium
join:2000-11-08
Brooklyn NYC
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to exocet_cm
Re: Crap is crap
said by exocet_cm  :No way do I want something on my computer without my consent, PERIOD. Then simply take the measures required to not install the crap in the first place. Seems if you don't want something, you just don't install it, yes?
Better than making more laws to make some form of software illegal... We don't need more laws! Stop installing this crap on your PC and it won't affect you; a simpleton should be able to do that much.
Bob
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Motor Vessel - Tamara B.
43' Long-Range Trawler
Cape Elizebeth ME.
See her Here. |
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fretlessp
join:2004-12-09
Hagerstown, MD
| I could not agree more. I never seem to have a problem with viruses or spy ware and I have been on the net for well over 9 years. I simply don't install junk, nor do I go to websites of questionable origin. I work in the industry and it amazes me how many clients have "free wallpapers, screen savers, and weather bug or other garbage software installed on their PCs. There is a price for everything in this world and if only more people would learn that, there would be considerably less users that have problems with their machines. Then again I will gladly continue to go onsite to remove the garbage from their PCs and bill them $85.00 and hr to do so. In a sense it gives me job security. As far as spy ware and popups I feel a good way to try to regulate the issue is to fine the companies who are doing the advertising. The reasons the ads pop up are to generate revenue and maybe if the companies that solicit people of questionable origin to advertise for them should have to pay the piper. |
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TheWickerMan
join:2002-04-09
Enola, PA
| reply to TamaraB
said by TamaraB : said by exocet_cm :No way do I want something on my computer without my consent, PERIOD. Then simply take the measures required to not install the crap in the first place. Seems if you don't want something, you just don't install it, yes? I think you missed the part about "without my consent." |
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Vvian Kalyss
join:2003-10-14
Stage 5.0
clubs:
| reply to fretlessp
Then explain drive-by-downloads that require NO ACTION on your part.
I shouldn't be FORCED to install numerous safeguards, change my browsing habits, what browser to use, what not to click, what not to download, yadda yadda -- in short, tailor my computing time around THEM -- just because some ethically-challenged salescum decides that he'll push a "free demo" of his "product" onto whatever PCs that aren't "protected".
Of course, you have a point too -- clueless users should STOP DOWNLOADING "free" software that is bundled with crap, dammit. There are plenty of no-catches-included freeware and open-source software that doesn't come bundled with shit. Software from the internet is not like getting junk from TV shopping -- you CAN get some things for FREE that don't need to be ad-supported (because explaining the difference between honest adware and spyware is much too difficult -- another reason why honest vendors should WANT to distance themselves from spyware and keep the 'adware' tag clean).
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Mikami Vvian, resident Girlfriend of Steel, care of the Tokyo-3 Middle Daughters Club |
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