klobb
join:2000-10-06 | I AGREE
It's a bad move to share the networks.
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draven
Premium,Mod
join:2002-02-20
my bunker | Upon further review ...
I came to the conclusion a long time ago that Michael Powell has no idea what the hell he is talking about. I bet someone gets paid good money to take him out of the closet, prop him up and pull the string on his back each morning. |
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Mizfit
join:2002-06-05
Whitehall, PA
 ·Verizon Online DSL
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1 edit | Agreed upon completely on him having no idea. I believe lowering the hassles of receiving permissions to run new lines and making municipal and community contracts illegal is the key to a healthy competition. Not letting someone just come in and use the lines, while not having to spend to build it, but also not letting one cable company monopolize an area. |
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zabes63
join:2003-04-05
Batavia, IL | That does it!!!
I want DNA test results proving that this guy is Colin's progeny. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| He's right about Brand X
Why should cable companies have to open up their privately owned and privately built networks? If Brand X wants access, they should get into some kind of line-sharing agreement with the cable companies or, gasp, actually build their own network.
You can't say that cable companies and phone companies should be regulated alike because the businesses are not the same. Phone companies are required to provide service to everyone, cable companies are not. Cable also is not subject to the stringent SLAs required of phone companies.
Thankfully this ruling came from the 9th Circus Court of Appeals so it will most likely be overturned.
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CPM
join:2001-08-24
Miami, FL
| Hmm
Powell also repeats his opinion that media indecency complaints have "skyrocketed".
Well, if those people want a clean TV show. They should only be watching PBS. Wait, PBS even shows boobies. Well, I guess they should just turn off the (LOL boob tube and read a book.)
Yes, they do show boobies, in certain documentaries.
Hell Jerry Springer made money,letting fat, overweight, ugly people show there boobies, And that is on day time network broadcast.
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BodyBumper
join:2004-06-21
Beverly Hills, CA
1 edit | I wouldnt shead a tear...
I wouldnt shead a tear if powell fell down a flight of stairs busted that thick skull of his open and started barking like a dog.
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amenite
The Soylent - It's People
Premium
join:2002-11-21
Ridgewood, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon Online DSL
| There's a much more scary one that could be made
quote:
...Powell calls the Brand X decision (which could open cable networks to competitors) "the scariest and worst decision that exists on the books today for the future of the Internet."
I guess the "boss" has forbidden Powell to even allow the subject of the UN to enter his mind.
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electric_dsl
join:2004-07-20
Pickering, ON
| hypocrites
Let me get this straight, it is bad for Microsoft to bundle IE into THEIR OS that THEY PAYED for.
Yet it is okay for Cable and Telcos to have a monopoly and deny access?
So far the cable and telcos in the US have shown that they can get broadband to users on their own.... Oh wait from what I call the US has one of the worst coverages of all first rate nations...
Its okay though because they are look at bringing everyone fibre!!!! Riiiight because they were so succesful running DSL and cable to everyone..
Of course you can play they "we are bigger" card but here in Canada, the SECOND largest country land mass wise in the world, has far better coverage, higher speeds at lower prices, then the states not to mention europe and japan are so far ahead technology wise its scary....
Whats the new execuse? |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
1 edit | said by electric_dsl  :Yet it is okay for Cable and Telcos to have a monopoly and deny access? But there are no laws here which state that a company which wants to run its own network cannot do so. The FCC has made it clear that state and municipal governments cannot lock out other companies which want to run wires.
This decision is about private property. Cable companies' networks are private property and as such, the companies are free to share or not share their property in any way that they please. If the government does not like that, then it can always exercise eminent domain and buy the networks from the companies at a fair price. Just because one company is too cheap to invest in its own infrastructure does not mean that the government cannot legally force any entity in this country to share their private property with anyone.
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electric_dsl
join:2004-07-20
Pickering, ON | Right. I agree with you on that.
However is Windows OS not Microsoft's property?
Yet didn'y the Government try and force MS to share? Not to mention a whole ton of other things. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| said by electric_dsl :However is Windows OS not Microsoft's property? Yet didn'y the Government try and force MS to share? Not to mention a whole ton of other things. Yes, it did. And it was also wrong to do this as well. But keep in mind it was a different government (Clinton) than the current administration which tried to force Microsoft to do this. I agree with you that both actions are bad. But with regards to the Microsoft case in particular, I don't understand how they could be considered a monopoly, even in the mid-90s there were other operating systems that people could have used if they had bothered to make the effort to learn how to use them. Saying that Microsoft is a monopoly on operating systems is like saying GM is a monopoly on cars because people are too lazy to learn how to go to the Honda dealership.
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
Host:
Road Runner
PC gaming GAMES
PC gaming Tech
2 edits | reply to pnh102
You're missing the point of the government stepping in to force sharing in the first place, in all of your posts.
It's to foster competition, keep company's honest, and keep prices down in a market ripe with geographical monopolies.
Time Warner was charging broadband cable users who didn't bundle, $55-$60 for their standard connection. Under rules of the AOL merger, they had to share their network with Earthlink.
Earthlink's lower prices forced TWC to lower the unbundled price, and most users can now get that same tier for $45 from TWC.
Consumers won, and TWC is arguably the most stable and successful MSO out there.
"Go build your own" is a logical sentiment, except at this point it's like shoving a pencil necked Slashdot reader into a boxing ring with Tyson and saying: "go compete, champ."
As a Tyson fan, you're saying it knowing the outcome of the fight....which is why I have a hard time taking that statement seriously. |
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macaholic
Premium
join:2003-08-31
Jackson Heights, NY
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Re: Upon further review ...
actually lets add one caveat. If the company that put those lines in by applying for or using public moneys (ie. tax inititiatives, subsidies, government loans) then they should share those lines as the government see fit. If they used private funding then they should not be required to share there lines...
in this case it works in favor of the cable companies and against the telcos who used public funding to build there infrastructure and then proceeded to try to rape the public with it.
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electric_dsl
join:2004-07-20
Pickering, ON
| reply to Karl Bode
Re: hypocrites
reread my post karl. think sarcasm.
I probably didnt make my point clear enough. feeling a bit under the weather,what?
I think denying access is the wrong way for you guys to move forward in the broadband industry. The US is so far behind right now it isn't funny yet your government insists on keeping it that way by enforcing out dated modes of operation.
I was also trying to point out the double standards. the gov. has no problem trying to force ms to share yet when it comes to telcos shareing is bad monopoly is good??
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
Host:
Road Runner
PC gaming GAMES
PC gaming Tech
1 edit | I was really talking to pnh102, which the "reply-to" indicates.....I agreed with your post.
I particularly agree with you on the double standards. You'll see them in the geek community too. People rant endlessly about Microsoft, yet pay no attention to things Verizon or EA does that are easily as bad.... |
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TGulics
@12.125.x.x
| Cable
Hey, if Brand X means that my slacker cable company will have to get off their duff and either offer GOOD internet service (ie, not the crap-ass one-way cable they're giving me now) or open their lines to someone that CAN give good service... I'm all for it.
Maybe this will knock a few high-and-mighty cable/DSL providers down a notch, give them some work to do to stay relevant. |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
1 edit | Be Gentle
Have a heart Michael Powell has trouble at home. Seem as though he has a relative that is pissed off with him, she can't get broadband. Forget coal she carries a brick in her purse;)
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pa grape
Premium
join:2003-12-28
Columbus, OH | reply to pnh102
Re: He's right about Brand X - agree!
I agree with you here. If private companies are made to share there property with others, I would guess the upkeep and upgardes of the infrastructure would somewhat deteriorate. |
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electric_dsl
join:2004-07-20
Pickering, ON | reply to Karl Bode
Re: hypocrites
fair enough. I just followed the line and figure you were replying to both of us. |
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