 AbBaZaBbAPremium join:2002-07-10 Wildomar, CA kudos:4 | statistics 64% of statistics are just made up | |
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 |  neftv join:2000-10-01 Broomall, PA | Re: statistics Or I was going to say the AOL membership is down by that much but it would not be true. | |
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 |  BillPremium,VIP join:2001-12-09 | I highly doubt these numbers are correct. | |
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 |  |  NerdtalkerWorking Hard, Or Hardly Working?Premium,MVM join:2003-02-18 Tucson, AZ | Re: statistics said by Bill:I highly doubt these numbers are correct. As do I.
AO-Hell is enough trouble as it is, it'd fit their agenda to make up these statistics to forward their self-proclaimed anti-spam vigilance. Gimme a break. -- Touch a thistle timidly, and it pricks you; grasp it boldly, and its spines crumble. -William S. Halsey
Kazaa Is Spyware. Gator / Claria Is Spyware.
I'm testing Gmail's spam filters: Broadbandreports1@gmail.com Spam: 1357 | |
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 |  | | I have been with America Online for nearly 5 years. I have tried many other services. No service is perfect. They all or subject to their own problems. AOL in recent years has gotten better. I use to recieve 10 or 15 spam messages maybe more. Within the past 2 years, the spam on my AOL Account has diminished down to maybe 2 to 5 messages every once in a while. 9.0 Security Edition is really a great product. I have followed closely with the competition to see how things pan out. AOL is managing well, and I see that the service spread offerings for AOL are getting bigger. They aren't done yet. The reason I continue to pay AOL is four words, Convenience and Community Services. I also like the Radio @ AOL. There are 349 stations and they add more. This is available with my membership and I am receiving AOL for Broadband for 9.95 atop my local high speed provider. So I am very happy. I've met great people on America Online. I've use AOL because its fun, it's full of people and when compared with other services, it is more personal. I can actually customize it to what I want. With other providers you get a start page... with AOL you get your name, or a celebrity talking , customizable backgrounds, and all. I mean, there are times when AOL has it's days, but no provider is perfect. It all boils down to experience, take a second look... | |
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 DerchPremium join:2004-10-16 Cross Plains, WI | BS "Internal data"...
Ya right. | |
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 kpatzMY HEAD A SPLODEPremium join:2003-06-13 Manchester, NH | And what are the casualties? As in, how much legitimate mail was blocked in order to block "more" spam? I always hear of people on AOL not receiving legit mail from people because their spam filters block it. -- SMTP: Spam and Malware Transfer Protocol. Also used on rare occasion to transmit e-mail messages. | |
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 |  dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA kudos:18 | Re: And what are the casualties? said by kpatz:As in, how much legitimate mail was blocked in order to block "more" spam? I always hear of people on AOL not receiving legit mail from people because their spam filters block it. Same here! A friend uses AOL, and their "New" spam blocking "tool" was not allowing *ANY* email to be delivered! Yeah, I guess that would cut down on spam...  -- No Firefox here, move along! | |
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Our fortune 500 company gets our domain blocked every few weeks because of this nonsense. Everytime, you have to open a new case with AOL and be added to the whitelist. But the stupid thing is that they don't tell you that you have been removed from the whitelist and put in their spam list so the process begins again. This is just nonsense. My company is a 2 Billion dollar company and we get put on their spam list so that someone can't send emails to their buddies and they complain. | |
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 |  |  |  Doctor FourMy other vehicle is a TARDISPremium join:2000-09-05 Dallas, TX 2 edits | Re: And what are the casualties? There's a good reason why AOL is blocking savvis.net. They are hosting quite a few notorious spammers.
Time to find another domain host. Or if you are representing savvis.net, then you need to stop hosting spammers. Take a look at the SBL - your provider has 41 entries, including Scott Richter's company, OptInRealBig. Here's what they have to say:
said by Spamhaus.org: "Found 41 SBL listings for IPs under the responsibility of savvis.net"
14 of those are ROKSO entries. That is a serious sign of trouble. Need more evidence? Google Groups for NANAS and savvis.net:
»groups-beta.google.com/group/new···is+group
And there's this from one of our Stopping Spam forum regulars back in October, who says that savvis.net seems to be signing up new ROKSO spammers:
»Savvis.net spamhaus to nuke spammers
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Eat spam and die. | |
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 |  | | Having millions of e mail addresses stolen is a great way to reduce spam! It's only a matter of time before employees of other ISP's do the same, to reduce spam of course! | |
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 |  Jafo232You Can't Spell Democrat Without Rat.Premium join:2002-10-17 Boonville, NY | Well as one who has an AOL account I can testify that SPAM has indeed gone down, and I get about one false positive in my SPAM box every six months or so.
Their blacklisting methods are a bit rough. I have a mailing list on one of my sites that users sign up to that sends no spam or advertisements or anything else, just site news, and someone labelled one of the messages as SPAM and they blacklisted the entire server. Mind you the list has been around for about 5 years (users subscribing and unsubscribing) and is still less than 10,000 users. Mail is sent to the list once a week and it still got hit by AOL. Even if it was SPAM, that type of blacklisting is a bit extreme I would think.
Anyway, SPAM still does get through, but if I had to guess on a percentage, I would say about 20% of my email is SPAM, where it used to be closer to 50-60%.
If users are getting all mail blocked, chances are they checked the box to "Block all except these addresses" option, or have altered another setting to muck it up.
Compared to my Optimuum Online email account, AOL definitely does a better job. -- Register Your Gaming Clan at Clan-Council.com | |
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| LOL ! On average, AOL now receives 2.2 million complaints each day from their 24 million members, down from 11 million complaints per day last year. LOL! That's STILL sad! -- Defcon888(at)Gmail.com I Love Microsoft Internet Explorer! A Browser With Advanced Settings, Options, and Choice | |
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 |  DaSneaky1Done wall to block them allPremium,MVM join:2001-03-29 The Lou | Re: LOL ! Just keep in mind how many of those "complaints" are people voicing how their service is "suppose" to work. Likely a lot of "iD10t user errors". -- ] :: my trivial ramblings :: [ | |
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 Vamp5c077Premium join:2003-01-28 MD kudos:1 | how they get this data... When users login they get a popup, this popup says "Do you think junk email has been reduced?" , their options.. "Yes", "no", No is grayed out, user must click yes.
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 TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus join:2001-06-20 Cheyenne, WY | As far as I am concerned AOL is spam:( | |
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 |  | | Re: As far as I am concerned With their stinking AOL cds. But... the DVD cases that come with it ARE useful  | |
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 |  |  antwanpBeyond FM, Beyond AM, XM Satellite RadioPremium join:2002-05-14 Cedar Hill, TX | Re: As far as I am concerned said by Defcon888:With their stinking AOL CDs. But... the DVD cases that come with it ARE useful I like those DVD cases. Those are the only good thing from AOL CD's. You're right, they are very useful for Playstation 2 games and such that I've damaged in my dorm room...
-Antwan L. -- Bawls, the official drink of Lan Parties, Paintball Matches, and anything else that requires extreme energy! »www.bawls.com | |
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 paulhaskewUnoffical Dominos Spokesman join:2002-01-10 Vancouver, WA | blah they block to quickly...
One e-mail came back as a complaint due to a mistyped e-mail address, so they blocked the whole damn server... AHHH | |
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 nklbPremium join:2000-11-17 Ann Arbor, MI kudos:2 | Something doesnt add up... said by article: On average, AOL now receives 2.2 million complaints each day from their 24 million members, down from 11 million complaints per day last year.
So they are saying that last year just about half of their members took time every single day to complain?
and this year about 10% do?
Something just doesnt add up... -- for all your Linux questions | |
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 |  ShootToThrilTell The TruthPremium join:2004-06-07 Sherman Oaks, CA | Re: Something doesnt add up... More than half the members left AOL for a better future. | |
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 Meeble join:2002-09-19 Champaign, IL | yeah bu they lack to mention those caught in the given that half the people on their blacklist are on there unfairly or because tey reside under other hosting isps etc I don't know exactly what they are proud of.
Three of my domains have been blacklisted to aol and my provider has promised me they have no spammers (and tey only have like 3 dozen acct holders but still i have to take his word unless i can prove otherwise). That bein said everyone I needed to mail on aol I pointed ou that I can no longer email them and unless they switch to someone else or use a free mail , thats that because after multipl attempts to get off thi blacklist I was basically told no as was my domain host.
I also know a company who uses a completely different host who has had the same problem. Long story short, a good boatload o their employees and participants have cancelled AOL because they could no longer receive the weekly 'newsletter' which was neccessary for them to do their job.
yeah AOL be proud of your accomplishment..... let's reduce usability, customer satisfaction, and productivity and then tout it as a feature enhancement  | |
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 |  Jafo232You Can't Spell Democrat Without Rat.Premium join:2002-10-17 Boonville, NY | Re: yeah bu they lack to mention those caught in t I basically just do not allow people on AOL to join my mailing list. This also cuts certain benefits to these users if they cannot sign up using a different email address. I had to put my foot down because I was tired of my own mail server getting blocked from AOL because some moron kept hitting the "This is SPAM" button when they received our newsletter.
AOL would not identify the person, so I had no choice but eliminate them all. When a user complains to me, I just point them to a page that has my communication with AOL logged.
It is a hard nosed policy, that is for sure, but in the end, it will have to be their user base who fixes it. -- Register Your Gaming Clan at Clan-Council.com | |
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 drkkgtBooPremium join:2003-08-26 Whittier, CA | Stats are fun And how many of those users gave up complaining since they didn't do jack all last year when the 11 million a day were complaining? | |
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 | | Not so bad Im sorry but i rarely ever see spam in my aol email. I use 3 other email services 2 and aol is really doing good at stopping spam. they might have alot of spyware with their browser software but I have really never had that many issues with their email portion. I still use the email because i have been using aol email for 5 years and alot of people contact me through it. I use sprint as a main and a couple others for stuff i know i am gonna get spam for. But aol has done much better in the last year or so on getting rid of spam. | |
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 |  ghostpainterI Write for the ApocalypsePremium,MVM join:2002-05-25 Rancho Cucamonga, CA kudos:3 | Re: Not so bad So where do I go to complain about AOL blocking my family pic's to family members who happen to be unfortunate enough to have AOL.
Or better yet, AOL has ID me as a spammer...I have never spammed in my life, I send out a news letter once a month to the park residents, now all of those resident who use AOL are blocked...They have sent me emails expecting to answer but I can not because AOL blocks me. What kind of bull is that...I can't even communicate with my own family... -- We fold for cures. My Web site Earth Log II »earthlogii.blogspot.com/ | |
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Problem solved stats correct | |
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 |  |  drkkgtBooPremium join:2003-08-26 Whittier, CA 1 edit | Re: .... Complaints = Spam
Nice, so they added a spam filter onto the AOL corporate offices and suddenly they don't get any spam, like those pesky complaint emails???  | |
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 | | Not them It's not the AOL filters. It's all the ISP's blocking AOL traffic from the zombies. It's great how AOL takes all the credit though 
deny tcp any 205.188.0.0 0.0.255.255 eq smtp log deny tcp any 64.12.0.0 0.0.255.255 eq smtp log deny tcp any 152.163.0.0 0.0.255.255 eq smtp log
Keeps my customers under control. | |
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 | | AOL is not lying: In my recent review of AOL 9 SE, »www.dannysdailys.com/tips/dan45.html
I mention the huge drop in total spam I've been getting.
I just thought AOL was getting better at it. I didn't know the entire spam rate had dropped.
Maybe the people now sitting in jail, has made the rest thing twice before trying to spam AOL.
Whatever, my total spam count is so low now, it's not even an annoyance. -- Madness Takes Its Toll, Please Have Exact ChangeDan DailyOwner/Webmasterhttp://www.dannysdailys.com | |
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