fegul
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join:2004-08-23
united state | One word:
Don't. |
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laserjobs
Premium
join:2004-05-02
Las Vegas, NV | How can we fight back? |
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CO_Chris
Premium
join:2001-08-28
Broomfield, CO | When are they going to learn?
The FCC is the final word come on CA/MN |
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navalpatel
join:2003-07-28
Lubbock, TX
| Oi
This is actually a good thing. This issue needs to be resolved and I think it will be decided by the Supreme Court. The ideal solution would probably be allowing the FCC to impose only Federal designated taxes, which are imposed on normal telephone providers as well.
A tax is still a tax... |
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PhoenixDown
-- Wants FIOS
Premium
join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
clubs:   | Double Taxation
I feel that taxing voip would be double taxation since we already pay taxes on the internet service used to make the calls.
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manifest
bitches
join:2004-08-14
Hartford, CT | Ummmm, you do not pay taxes on your internet service in the US at least. You only pay sales tax(if you state has sales tax). |
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d_man60112
join:2004-06-09
Cortland, IL | EVerything is double and even triple taxed! |
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Meridion0
join:2004-12-25
Centerville, IA | State tax
I would prefer state tax over government because of the fact that our government waves billions of the dollars in the air on a lot of pointless projects. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
1 edit | reply to manifest
Re: Double Taxation
Ohio only pays tax on DSL, and on services for businesses- but is not enforced anymore. T1s and so on are not being taxed.
VoIP is already taxed for everyone though..You have to pay your 3% to the Feds. |
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Gio7
Cynical
join:2000-08-19 | reply to Meridion0
Re: State tax
As if our state govt's don't do the same or worse in many cases. |
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davoice
join:2000-08-12
Saxapahaw, NC
 ·Comporium
| reply to CO_Chris
Re: When are they going to learn?
No... in case you haven't noticed, the court system in America has the final word. The legislative and executive branches of our government have had their nuts clipped by the judicial branch for pretty much all of the last 30 years. And the executive branch (esp the Office of the President) doesn't seem willing to challenge the status quo by forcing some more sensible judge candidates into the mix.
- Davoice |
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n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY | reply to Meridion0
Re: State tax
New York is the same if not worse than the Feds. Our legislature is ranked #50 in terms of effectiveness.
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
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join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA | Awe...poor greedy states
...will have to live on the billions they already steal from their residents. |
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russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA | reply to davoice
Re: When are they going to learn?
Unless they're going to argue that VoIP isn't interstate commerce, the courts are unlikely to overrule the FCC on this one, though. |
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davoice
join:2000-08-12
Saxapahaw, NC
·Comporium
1 edit | I'm waiting for someone like the UN to chime in that VOIP and internet service is international commerce and thus only subject to international commerce laws. Just wait for the first European company to start terminating US based DIDs on a EU based softswitch and things will get very interesting.
Edit: And yes, that is technically possible. You could route SS& call setup traffic via an international ATM connection and provide the termination and setup for calls destined for the US via IP. I just don't think it's cost effective yet. But let a Euro carrier get some scale and you might see some interesting effects.
- Davoice |
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NetDroid2
join:2004-08-16
Excelsior, MN
| Doesn't look like it passed......
»wcco.com/localnews/local_story_3···842.html
Quote from site:
"Minnesota can't regulate calls through cyberspace as it does calls through traditional phone lines, a federal appeals court ruled." |
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tapeloop
1959. I try to kick the ball. I miss.
Premium
join:2004-06-27
Airstrip One
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Re: When are they going to learn?
said by davoice  :I'm waiting for someone like the UN to chime in that VOIP and internet service is international commerce and thus only subject to international commerce laws. Just wait for the first European company to start terminating US based DIDs on a EU based softswitch and things will get very interesting. Edit: And yes, that is technically possible. You could route SS& call setup traffic via an international ATM connection and provide the termination and setup for calls destined for the US via IP. I just don't think it's cost effective yet. But let a Euro carrier get some scale and you might see some interesting effects. The technical part may be correct, but that part about the UN isn't. The UN isn't so much a governing body so much as an organization where sovereign member nations pay dues. (Which the US hasn't been doing much of lately...  )
You're probably thinking of the WTO. In which case the existing international telecom agreements would probably apply, but I'm not too well-versed in that area. |
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davoice
join:2000-08-12
Saxapahaw, NC
·Comporium
| Actually, the UN has been eyeing controlling the internet - along with the ITU. There has been quite bit of mumbling within UN committies about taking control of the internet away from the US (and entities like ICANN) and bringing it into the UN.
- Davoice |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to Meridion0
Re: State tax
VOIP is a data service and should not be taxable. |
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hedyd4u
Premium
join:2003-12-16
Schenectady, NY | reply to n2jtx
New York is #1 in passing budgets in an untimely fashion. |
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