  BodyBumper
join:2004-06-21 Beverly Hills, CA | Wake me up
When this is finally rolled out they've been doing this since 1997... well atleast PacificBell aka SBC -- DO NOT DOWNLOAD FROM OPENWARES!»methlabs.org/howtotell/ |
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  DaSneaky1D one wall to block them all Premium,MVM join:2001-03-29 The Lou | IPTV looks to be geat, but...
xDSL is a band-aide. There is only so much can you do with twisted copper and distance. -- ] :: my trivial ramblings :: [ |
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  Doctor Olds I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me. Premium,VIP join:2001-04-19 1970 442 W30 clubs:
| That's too little, too late!
That has to be yet another bonehead "smokey back room" decision not based on any proper "market research", but "good ole boy network" pull it out of yer hat what can we do to not deploy fiber escapism I've seen to date. Bellsouth Cable, anyone? You have to move to Alabama.
Something should be done to get Bellsouth into reality, much less "caught up with today" if they want to be viable in the future, as it comes. Someone tell them this is not the "70's Show", Please!  -- Whats the point of owning a supercar if you cant scare yourself stupid from time to time? |
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 Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26 North Andover, MA
·Verizon FIOS
| "Select Areas"
Maybe by "select areas" they mean areas where deploying fiber isn't economically feasible. In that copper is already strung, and barely being used, so why bother upgrading it to fiber, when they only have 3 customers using it anyway. ( Like in many areas in the "deep" south ) |
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  bigdaddy17
join:2003-05-08 Miami, FL
| said by Ahrenl: Maybe by "select areas" they mean areas where deploying fiber isn't economically feasible. In that copper is already strung, and barely being used, so why bother upgrading it to fiber, when they only have 3 customers using it anyway. ( Like in many areas in the "deep" south )
Deep south eh? Im about as far south as you can go buddy and every house spaced out by a couple of feet has DSL. |
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 BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15 Everett, MA clubs:
·Comcast
| reply to Ahrenl Then just string the fiber along like the copper and pull down the copper for scrap. fiber has to be rolled out. It will cost less for them to wire the rural areas since they don't have to splice at every other pole like in the city.
Most of the cost is labor that is the sad part. -- "It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!" |
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  bigdaddy17
join:2003-05-08 Miami, FL | Fiber is already layed out down here in South FL in the "deep south". The post I made above I meant the homes on my street or infact my whole area with fiber. |
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 Queasy
join:2004-01-20 Lawrenceville, GA | And yet they still can't offer Xtreme via IFITL
to existing users. |
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  Doctor Olds I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me. Premium,VIP join:2001-04-19 1970 442 W30 clubs:
| Re: And yet they still can't offer Xtreme via IFIT
That's because the port that feeds your IFITL pedestal is set at 10Mbps and it would kill off all but two (2) customers for each pedestal where they cram twenty (20) DSL/DSL-lite customers now. Bellsouth doesn't plan for growth. -- Whats the point of owning a supercar if you cant scare yourself stupid from time to time? |
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 flushls
join:2004-11-02 Joyce, WA
| Here is how it will work
"With authority...."
Hellsouth,Southworstern Bluster Co.,QWORST etc. Will stall, rant, whine, plead etc. then one day 4 or 5 years from now they will wake up and Indies, Rural Telcos, Fibre Coops will all be years even further ahead of them and they will wither and die on the vine.
They is a Gaelic proverb my grandfather used to quote when asked to translate into english he would say "F*ck around and soon you won't be around" as much as I am in a hurry to BB here I just soon let the RBOC taste there own fecal matter. And I don't think I will be wrong on this prediction |
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 Tarmax
join:2001-05-03 Fort Lauderdale, FL
| where are these people?
BellSouth will also continue to expand its fiber-to-the-curb (FTTC) network, which currently passes one million homes, to an additional 180,000 customers in 2005. lol.. passes is right. 
They've been "rolling out" fiber down in Miami-Dade for the past 2 or 3 years at least now; and not 15 miles north here in Fort Lauderdale, well... you get the picture lol
..anyone know what Comcast is like down here?  |
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 NetTech2
join:2004-04-14 Mount Olive, AL
1 edit | reply to Doctor Olds Re: And yet they still can't offer Xtreme via IFIT
Before any of you 'nah-sayers' get to far down the road, letting your arse overload your mouth, re-read the release: (hint: re-read the second para about FTTC and copper pair bonding.)
"BellSouth today announced a technical trial of Microsoft® TV Internet Protocol Television (IPTV) Edition software platform, tapping the advancing capabilities of the companys next generation broadband network. BellSouths fiber-rich broadband network will increasingly serve as the primary platform used to deliver cutting-edge voice, video and data services to customers.
By leveraging new DSL technologies, including ADSL2+ and copper pair bonding, and BellSouth's five million miles of fiber cabling, BellSouth intends to trial a feature-rich video offer during the first half of 2005. BellSouth will also continue to expand its fiber-to-the-curb (FTTC) network, which currently passes one million homes, to an additional 180,000 customers in 2005. BellSouth is currently completing testing of IPTV hardware and software within its labs and will later expand its trial to set-top boxes within customers homes selected for the trial. BellSouth will then evaluate further deployment based upon results of the trial.
"IPTV will potentially forever alter the way we consume video content much like personal video recorders have done, said Bill Smith, chief technology officer of BellSouth. IPTV places customers in the drivers seat and gives them complete control of their entertainment experience regardless of the media format or on which device within their home they wish to use. We're bringing together the benefits of broadband, the rapid adoption of home networking technology and the magic of software to give customers content where, when and how they want it. " ======================================================== Now, all things being equal, it takes time and money to deploy this type of infrastructure. But, some of BellSouth customers are just too impatient to understand this. Take a look at SBC..their plan to deploy fiber everywhere isn't going to happen overnight, nor within the next year! It will be a 'long-term' deployment process, just like anything else that involves major network re-configuration! |
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  Doctor Olds I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me. Premium,VIP join:2001-04-19 1970 442 W30 clubs: | reply to flushls Re: Here is how it will work
My "exact" sentiments! Thank you for the clarity.  |
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 bogey780
join:2004-03-19 Here | reply to Queasy Re: And yet they still can't offer Xtreme via IFIT
Because the platform can not support it. You'd have to literally replace the guts of the system almost as if there was no service there. Plus you'd have no service through it for several days if lucky. |
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  Doctor Olds I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me. Premium,VIP join:2001-04-19 1970 442 W30 clubs:
| reply to NetTech2 said by NetTech2 :Before any of you 'nah-sayers' get to far down the road, letting your arse overload your mouth, re-read the release: Only time will tell whose arse is talking. I've got dibs on Bellsouth's non-future. You got Bellsouth TV to live with. LOL -- Whats the point of owning a supercar if you cant scare yourself stupid from time to time? |
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 Cyber2lz
join:2001-11-15 Odessa, FL | MS and BS
Now there is a perfect match !!!! The incompetent leading the blind. -- If you're not livin' on the edge, you're takin' up too much space ! |
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 donaldk Premium join:2000-10-19 Thunder Bay, ON
2 edits | reply to BodyBumper Re: Wake me up
I feel sorry for Americans in that their telecom companies think in the gutter about broadband. Telus is currently ADSL as everyone know but they are planing to go straight to the FTTC/FTTH route with an agressive schedule. Currently someone posted about their beta test and it is being tested with caps set at 15Mbps/5Mbps, and that is for internet use. Video if they do it would be on top of it.
Edit: The TV is a nice option... but the bandwidth for it is what I am ranting about. |
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  Anonuser
join:2003-01-03 Milwaukee, WI
| Um.....
Question
"The technology, ADSL2+, will enable download speeds between 4 megabits per second and 6 mbps, and upload speeds from 512 kbps to 768 kbps, BellSouth said.
That would be up from the current maximum download speed of 3 mbps with uploads of 384 kbps available through BellSouth."
Ok, 4-6mbit, soooo, then this DSL I've had for 2 years, that would be ADSL2 then? I'm already at 6mbit for over a year!
/sarcasim -- Chris Allessi Global Datacenter |
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  Rob In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA Premium join:2001-08-25 Kendall, FL | Download..
I don't want faster download (give me 3000) but GIVE ME 1MB UPLOAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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  slimpickinz
join:2003-11-29 Conyers, GA
| reply to Cyber2lz Re: MS and BS
Good Point!! Until (the ostrich) works toward compliancy, they will continue to lag & not lead. And their proprietary attitude will cause them more trouble in the future. Already you cannot use their speed test »speed.fastaccess.com with Firefox, and forget loging on to DSL with anything but IE... |
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