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Comments on news posted 2005-01-09 13:11:57: Here's the question of 2005: Now that Microsoft is in the anti-spyware business, will they respond to Claria & WhenU "bribes" and weaken their definitions like Aluria did, or maintain some degree of integrity? Spyware Warrior points out that the pr.. ..

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Rammer
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is this a joke

or what
its not april fools day yet


dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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LMAO!

WeatherSlug *IS* adware!
Claria? aka Gator? DUH!
WhenU? Please!
Crapware is crapware... Spyware/adware/malware, kill it all!
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insomniac84

join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN

I hope microsoft chooses to protect its product

The fact is these apps will damage windows and in the end force a complete fresh install to rectify some of the problems they create. Microsoft would have to of course know this. As big as they are, why don't they tell these spyware makers to make their programs as easy to install and remove as any legit program in order to not be blocked. I doubt these companies will fight a legal battle against someone who can easily afford years of litigation.


nwrickert
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Microsoft is in the pro-spyware business

Spyware exists mainly because insecure microsoft software makes it possible. Microsoft could stop spyware cold by changing IE design.

It sure seems like a scam for microsoft to be the enabler of spyware, and then to plan selling anti-spyware programs.


Karl Bode
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As Ironic as AOL claiming they fight adware by partnering with Aluria.

The whole sector is ridiculously incestuous.


Karl Bode
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reply to insomniac84
Re: I hope microsoft chooses to protect its product

Really is an important test for them if they want to be taken seriously and improve their security image (if there is one there to improve).

The sooner someone the size of Microsoft stands up and declares these programs do have a negative impact on system performance, the sooner the law will force them to clarify their installation procedures, which in turn eliminates a massive chunk of their revenue (unaware users).

Mr_Stealth
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Just mark it as "adware"

For things like MiniBug, MS should just have it marked as "adware". That way, the company can't complain about it being labeled as spyware (even if MS AS doesn't specifically call it spyware, but just lists it as a "threat").
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atangel
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2 edits
Leave Me Alone You Monopoly

MS' biggest problem with trying to be malware vendor is going to be all the monopoly nuisance suites... You are trying to squeeze us out in favor of "X."

They are an Evil Monopoly, but in this instance if they try to do the right thing, they will get blamed and if they do the wrong thing they will get blamed.

damox
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To do so would be foolish!

I doubt seriously that Microsoft would be so foolish. It would definitely be counter-productive. I'm sure they realize that to do so would likely disenfranchise them from even the most ardent Microsoft users. Their whole purpose of getting into the anti-spyware/adware business was to win back some of the trust that has eroded away over the past several years. To do so, would be like giving their endorsement to Linux!
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SmD Frylock

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reply to atangel
Re: Leave Me Alone You Monopoly

It's going to take a lawsuit for them to remove anything from their scanner, and unfortunately considering their monopoly status it's a good chance spyware can win that.

The only spyware I see MS not detecting is Alexa. Especially since They use it in IE.
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Stumbles

join:2002-12-17
Port Saint Lucie, FL
That's an easy answer.

Microsoft will do what they always do since honest competition is not in their mindset. They will buy up the big spyware guys, integrate them at the OS level and call it innovation.

Wheeeeeee......


Anonymous
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1 edit
Read the article

The vast majority of anti-spyware providers do not consider WeatherBug to be spyware, including Aluria, our own anti-spyware provider," said AOL spokesman Andrew Weinstein.

Wow what an idiot!

In the case of WeatherBug, the dispute-resolution process paid immediate dividends. On Friday, the company received a response from Microsoft with the good news that the current signatures for Minibug will be removed.

All I can say is

Giant Antispyware you will be missed
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Titus Pullo
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Makes you wonder just how many people do read an article before posting.

(sorta like researching a candidate before voting)
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SP_Writer
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Where I work....

With the new roll-out of XP (Yes, it took this long to get this far....but that my friends, is another story) there will be no IE. Of course it will be there, but hidden from the users. We are going to Firefox. I know, it's only 400 computers. But 100's of hours of our time cleaning out all this damn adware/spyware/malware/scumware.

And MS is going to charge for Giant? What a joke.


Steve
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reply to Karl Bode
Re: I hope microsoft chooses to protect its produc

said by Karl Bode See Profile:

Really is an important test for them if they want to be taken seriously and improve their security image (if there is one there to improve).
Isn't this the same as wanting Microsoft to be the arbiter of what runs on their customer's machines? People want that?
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jaykaykay
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reply to SP_Writer
Re: Where I work....

said by SP_Writer See Profile:

And MS is going to charge for Giant? What a joke.
Using Firefox or any other browser you wish to use is fair game. But what I fail to see in your statement (and many other's as well) as to MS charging for Giant is a reason as to why shouldn't they? Just because they bought another product to get use of it doesn't mean that they should not charge for it. It was a paid for program before MS bought it and I see no reason why the thinking is that MS should integrate it and not charge for it.

I grant you that they haven't cleaned up a lot of issues with their OS that allows for a lot of the junk in the first place but that doesn't mean that they needn't have a good business practice and charge for a product if they can. Yes, there are issues where one might feel that MS should clean up their act first, but obviously, that is not going to happen. Their charging for Giant, while seen as something that given free might have been truly beneficial for everyone, is not the point here as I see it. Their acquisition of the program seems to be one of a good business practice, and as such, is charged for just as is Word and some of the other products they have.


DaveNJ
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Ad(weather) bug

I used to be a big fan of weatherbug even with the adversting it was tolerable, but now its far far far too much. Its adware and a threat MS, you just lost all creditabity from me. I wont be buying your AS product when its officially released.
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quibbly
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We will see MS in court again

We will see Microsoft in court again soon.


SP_Writer
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Clifton Park, NY
reply to jaykaykay
Re: Where I work....

Because their product, IE, stinks, and is bundled with the OS. Hence, we are forced to have this garbage on our computer and then pay more to block its holes. Next question?


Anonymous
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WeatherBug users go to:

»www.singerscreations.com/

And get Weather Watcher
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