markopoleo
join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO | More proof that big business IS the government.
..and the citizens have to revolt to get things done right. |
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DHRacer
Fire Survivor
join:2000-10-10
Lake Arrowhead, CA
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 ·Verizon west (ex G..
1 edit | Why bother
Why bother having state governments?
I think the Federal gov't should just auction off each state to the highest bidding company. They can control everything and do nothing, and the people will finally be happy.
It doesn't seem to matter who you put in office these days. Their spine disappears with the first bribe/kickback/payoff of that elected official.
I don't understand the concept of businesses buying off states. I thought government was supposed to be more powerful than corporations.
We're well on the way to being the United Corporations of America.
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Corporations of America and to the many companies for which it stands, under a greedy, rich CEO, totally divided, and with no freedom to choose and justice for no one but big business"
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| Here is what needs to happen....
The next public hearing they have for this bill, someone should go in armed with the following paperwork:
1. Amount each state rep and senator received from Verizon or any other cable/telco for campaign contributions.
2. Any public statements each state rep said against muni operations.
3. Areas these reps and senators live in (if they can get broadband or not.)
It seems these guys have made their minds up BUT let them try and explain themselves. And invite the media to see the show. I'll bet they will love the fireworks.
Even ask the telcos and cable companies to stop by and explain themselves when they say they won't service an area. |
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markopoleo
join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO | reply to DHRacer
Re: Why bother
Like every government in history of this world, its run by money not right or wrong. Currency is evil |
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Sr Tech
Premium
join:2003-01-19
New Fairfield, CT | reply to DHRacer
As they say Money Talks, BS walks.
It appears that the communication companies are lining the politicians pockets enough to make them happy. |
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flushls
join:2004-11-02
Joyce, WA
| I hate to be mean but.....
I think you should quit bitching. You have access to the internet so you have access to the following.
Addresses and Phone # of your
State senator
State Rep.
Congressman
2 Federal Senators
If you live in an effected state call them, Write them, Have your mother and her dog do the same.
And don't waste your hate on this forum.
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linicx
Caveat Emptor
Premium
join:2002-12-03
United State
·CenturyLink
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Re: Why bother
We're well on the way to being the United Corporations of America.
No we are not.
However, we ARE well on the way to being owned by one or more foreigners. Half of US resources are already owned by Europe or Asian entities and the USD is at its lowest in years. |
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Bill
Light Up The Halo
Premium,VIP
join:2001-12-09
clubs:
| I like the non-slanted news...
I'm sorry Karl Bode  , but this sounds more like your opinion on the Bill. Obviously you have something against banning Muni's.
The people that support Muni's are probably paying the cities/governments also. Both sides are paying these people to vote their way; it's not just the big bad corporations that pay big $$ for votes.
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DHRacer
Fire Survivor
join:2000-10-10
Lake Arrowhead, CA
·Charter Pipeline
·Verizon west (ex G..
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Re: I hate to be mean but.....
I think you should be realistic.
The power of this nation is no longer in the hands of the people. It doesn't matter who you vote for and what they promise to get elected. It all goes out the window as soon as they sit in the office and the lobbyists take over.
Go ahead and write your letters. Write until your hand falls off, then switch hands until the other falls off. Then write with your one foot, then the other.
Politicians are always looking for free toilet paper, give them a lifetime supply. It will never amount to ANYTHING, as long as politicians are taking money from companies.
Change that first and this country may be saved.
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C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
Premium
join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL | reply to Bill
Re: I like the non-slanted news...
But the muni's don't get the TAX BREAKS that King Dubya and our current administration has allowed.  |
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Minister
join:2002-01-02
Fleeting
1 edit | reply to Bill
It's labeled op-ed. Don't whine about bias, simply disagree.
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The people that support Muni's are probably paying the cities/governments also.
Irrelevant. Only one side of this debate is drafting model legislation, covertly funding bogus stat-farms like the Heartland institute, buying off lawmakers, and changing laws in order to crush their opponent. Give me a break. |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
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Re: Why bother
bah secretly build the wireless and say its for the police cars to access DMV records and such when they do a stop. then out of the blue offer service and tell the lawyers to shove it.
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Bill
Light Up The Halo
Premium,VIP
join:2001-12-09
clubs: | reply to Minister
Re: I like the non-slanted news...
quote:
It's labeled op-ed
Where's it say its opinion? The only thing I see is "News Article". |
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mythology
join:2002-10-16
Seneca, SC
| BS
That is **ed up. Sounds like the local governments need to take care of things the old fashion way, a angry mod of rednecks with double-barrel shotguns and banjos. "We don't want to offer you broadband and you cant build your own network because we say so, we are the phone company and we own this town" |
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flushls
join:2004-11-02
Joyce, WA | reply to DHRacer
Re: I hate to be mean but.....
You can put a $20 in with the letter you would be surprise how much of a difference it makes you usually get a response back.
I am not be sarcastic. Really I am not. I swear it.
Flushls |
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Minister
join:2002-01-02
Fleeting
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Re: I like the non-slanted news...
Look over on the right....all the longer articles are called "editorial". This site is purely consumer driven. I don't think it makes any pretense to present news from any angle than the pro-consumer position.
In this case consumers clearly don't benefit from having their attempts to wire themselves crushed.
If you want regurgitated pro-bell Press releases, there's plenty of places for you to go.
Have any actual points to make about the logic behind banning community's from improving themselves? |
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woody7
Premium
join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA
·EarthLink
·DSL EXTREME
| Hmmmm.........
This isn't about the Munis per say .....all they are doing is what the corps won't do. seems the munis need the upgrade service to save money and streamline their efficiency, and resell to the people....then the corps are whining that it is not fair (sic )after they claim it is not economically viable ....if the voters got off their a$$es and become somewhat informed, and have their bull $hit deflectors working, then this would all be a moot point....aren't these mostly "red" states by the way? Oh and by the way I would love to work in less urban area if I could get somewhat descent fast reliable service, not caring who offered it...
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flushls
join:2004-11-02
Joyce, WA
| Intel to back broadband role for cities
»www.news.com/
Intel to back broadband role for cities
By Richard Shim
»news.com.com/Intel+to+back+broad···714.html
Story last modified Tue Jan 11 17:47:00 PST 2005
Chip giant Intel on Wednesday plans to provide a high-level perspective on the ongoing debate over the role of the public and private sectors in providing broadband services.
In a speech at the Wireless Communications Association in San Jose, Calif., Intel Executive Vice President Sean Maloney is expected to encourage commercial service providers and public agencies such as city governments and municipalities to work together in building out new broadband infrastructure.
Intel has a keen interest in the proliferation of wireless broadband technology and industries using it; by early next year it plans to produce WiMax chips for networking equipment that carriers can use to sell high-speed Internet access to consumers. WiMax is a promising wireless broadband technology allowing data to be wirelessly transmitted across several miles at transfer rates of several megabits per second.
"Sole responsibility, either from government or a single carrier, of a city's wireless network is not the best solution for growing the market," said a source familiar with the chipmaker's position in wireless broadband policy. "A sharing of responsibilities is what will encourage broadband adoption, and that will be a key point in Intel's policy proposal."
Maloney will outline the company's high-level policy position and will speak out against efforts to ban municipally owned networks. In recent years, phone companies and cable providers have actively lobbied local and state governments to ban public agencies and municipalities from building their own communications networks. The commercial providers have been successful in some regions of the country.
In some instances, commercial providers will be able to build networks and offer the best network choice to customers at affordable prices. But in other instances, such as low-income areas or rural locations, it might make more sense for a city or some other municipality to build the infrastructure.
"We welcome Intel's position and strongly support collaboration between the public and private sectors," said Jim Baller, a principal attorney for the Baller Herbst Law Group and a leading expert on municipally owned networks.
Intel's position is partly in response to strong lobbying by Verizon Communications that helped lead to the passage of a law in Pennsylvania that prohibits cities from offering Internet access to their residents for a fee. Verizon and other incumbent phone companies had urged legislators to ban municipally owned networks to prevent other cities from following the lead of Kutztown, a small college town near Allentown that set up its own telephone, Internet and TV system in 2002.
Phone companies and cable providers argue that municipalities that build and own their communications networks have an unfair advantage because they are backed by public funds. They claim that the municipalities will drive them out of business by offering services at greatly reduced prices.
On the other side, communities that want to build their own networks argue that they want broadband services now, and they are not willing to wait until it becomes economically feasible for commercial providers to build the infrastructure.
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zoom314
Superman
Premium
join:2001-04-30
Yermo, CA
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Re: More proof that big business IS the governmen
said by markopoleo :..and the citizens have to revolt to get things done right. I agree, It is the business and duty of a duly elected Government to Help Citizens when the private sector can't or won't. |
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Minister
join:2002-01-02
Fleeting | reply to flushls
Re: Intel to back broadband role for cities
Well in this case Intel wants those Munis to use WIMAX, so it's greed-based. But I'm sure the munis appreciate the help wherever it comes from. |
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