dslhater
Premium
join:2001-09-24
Chicopee, MA
clubs: | Re: Quitting the Internet
Like a drug addict they will be back lol |
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mariolanning
join:2002-04-19
Tucson, AZ | Click, Dialtone
Goodbye |
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jboyo
join:2004-06-10
North York, ON | IT's more like rocket science....
....for some people. I think some of us would be surprised how difficult it is for somepeople to understand it's importance. Other's just dont like to learn new things.
Just a trend a lot of people have noticed Im sure. |
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kpatz
MY HEAD A SPLODE
Premium
join:2003-06-13
Manchester, NH
| reply to dslhater
Re: Quitting the Internet
It's a little like giving up on the telephone because of telemarketers... how many of them will really leave?
On the other hand, maybe there'll be fewer spambots and virus-spewing boxen out there if more people unplug out of frustration.
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SMTP: Spam and Malware Transfer Protocol. Also used on rare occasion to transmit e-mail messages. |
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53059959
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02
PwnZone | reply to dslhater
THATS IT!!!! I QUIT!!! I just can't find the "any key" |
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south1178
Buckeye Stangs
Premium
join:2001-12-17
Cleveland, OH
clubs: | reply to jboyo
Re: IT's more like rocket science....
They will be back. |
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LesL
@sbc.com
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dadkins 
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Re: Quitting the Internet
There seems to be a false sense of security with users that have anti products installed. Many products that clean do not see everything. Just getting the latest updates is not enough. Each product sees items that the other does not. Those of you running one or two products should try another (even if its a trial version) just to see for yourself. |
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sharksfan3
Premium
join:2004-02-16
Poughkeepsie, NY | Good!
I hope more of these 'techless' people quit. That means less open spam relays. |
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mariolanning
join:2002-04-19
Tucson, AZ | reply to mariolanning
Re: Click, Dialtone
Nahh, I was just kidding.. I got rid of all that Microsloth crap and got a Powermac G5. POOF.. all my virii and spyware problems went away and never came back. |
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Trumpetguy01
join:2003-12-01
Davenport, IA | Don't let the door hit you...
This is fine with me. Now maybe there will be less suckers out there. It is exactly these types of users who aid the spread of viruses and make spammers profitable. |
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mariolanning
join:2002-04-19
Tucson, AZ
| Its not that I'm techless. LOL.. Its that MOST people on the internet dont have 12 hours a weeek to run all the updates, spyware removers, anti virii programs in triplacate to make sure every little new thing that came out THAT week was removed. Not to mention the agravation of the 20 reboots required when installing a hotfix or patch. |
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exocet_cm
In memory of dadkins
Premium
join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
clubs: | reply to Trumpetguy01
More bandwidth for me  |
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electric_dsl
join:2004-07-20
Pickering, ON
| one sided
This is a pretty one sided article. I mean What are thse people doing and downloading to get spyware?
Some spyware comes through IE but not very much, the really shitty stuff comes from P2P and those free smiley programs.
I bet these people feel the need to download every free product crammed in their face. |
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blablablabdgd
@chcgil.ameritech | ?
More bandwidth for those who stay. |
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electric_dsl
join:2004-07-20
Pickering, ON | reply to mariolanning
Re: Click, Dialtone
ah yes "the computer for idiots... sorry parents." |
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Cool Dude
Don't Sweat The Small Stuff
join:2000-08-11
Erie, PA
clubs: | reply to kpatz
Re: Quitting the Internet
Can't really blame them, internet has become a cesspool.... |
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electric_dsl
join:2004-07-20
Pickering, ON
| reply to mariolanning
Re: Don't let the door hit you...
IF you spend 12 hours a week doing that then you are doing something very wrong and are most definatly TECHLESS and commonsenseless.
I spend very little time on my PC at home as I spend 9+ hours on one at work.
Downloading and installing updates is all set to automatic, took a minute to do that. Plus with XP it is rare that the PC will need to reboot after. If it does its automatic.
Second if you have enough time to download pron and illicit music files + every other thing you can download then you have enough time to keep your AV and ASP up to date.
Third my AV and ASP run and update automatically in the wee hours in the morning, I scan the report at my leisure, takes a few minutes.
Finally I never ever have problems with my PC at home because I use it with commonsense. Thats all you need.
Could you imagine if when walking around downtown you took every free flier and item that was offered to you? So why would you do it on a computer? |
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six9
join:2001-12-03
Atlanta, GA
 ·Comcast
1 edit | Who is really at fault though...
Is it M$ for putting out swiss cheese for software? Is it Dell for selling it? Is it these people clicking yes to install comet cursor? Is it people downloading Kazaa and Gator without knowing just how BAD they are for their system? Is it people "unsubscribing" from the spam that asked them if they wanted to be a male pr0n star?
Sure you could say Linux is the answer. Sure you could say yes to the rest of it. People I talk to blame the virus/spyware/adware writers. I blame the folks that allow it. I blame the companies who leave holes in their systems that allow this. Just look at Mozilla, they find a hole in Firefox and it's patched a few days later. Find and IE hole and it's not fixed for weeks, months, or years.
I will partially blame M$ here. And I do that because of this fact. You CANNOT have an XP Home box secured. You are either User or Admin. Anyone else see something wrong with that? I had built a 2k box a few years ago for a buddy. I gave him power user rights with no registry editing access. He would keep getting Blaster to try to install but it could not. He recently got XP Home (without consulting me first) and asked if I could do the same thing. Reluctantly, I had to say no. There was no way to make him powerful enough to do a lot of things but not powerful enough to be dangerous. He was either God or a pee-on. What is with that logic? I could not restrict NTFS permissions, could not give him limited access without crippling him. That is pitiful if you ask me.
Additionally, I can say with confidence that my mom and dad, 62 and 72 respectively, have NEVER had a virus and NEVER had a big spyware infection other than the random tracking cookies. However, they have a home built box with all updates, a bit of security, anti-virus that is updated and they use Mozilla. They have never used Outlook. They are also on dial-up and their XP is fully updated. It can be done if properly set up. Now had they bought a Dell with all the crap on it.....I would bet a pitcher of beer on the fact that they would have some of this junk. Once my mom asked me about the smiley stuff she thought was neat. I told her NO WAY IN HELL DO YOU INSTALL THAT...besides it won't run with Mozilla mail and will only give you spyware.
It's all about education. And calling India does no good. What are they going to tell folks? Insert their restore disk and restart? Believe it or not, HP Indian support told me once that XP Pro would not run at all on a P4 2.8HT, 512, 160gb. Will not run??? Give me a freakin break!?!
People need to be educated. That begs to question, are they too lazy or is there no good way to learn? If someone comes to me, I'm sure I inevitably talk "geek speak" and they get lost. You can see the need for education both in this case and in the case of wireless networks. The latter is more a matter of RTFM, but still. How many "linksys" and "Netgear" SSID's are there because someone was too lazy to RTFM? How many spyware infections are because people don't RTF EULA? |
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user_hater
join:2001-12-14
Tyler, TX | reply to electric_dsl
Re: one sided
agreed, when i look at someones computer that is seriously infected with spy/ad/malware. the same list of programs is found on most of them, smiley this, weather that, accelerate whatnot, fileshare whynot.. and so on... |
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six9
join:2001-12-03
Atlanta, GA | I agree.....weather*, hotbar, searchbar, this bar, that bar, smileys, outlook, a lot of crap that looks neat but is a scourge. |
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