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Comments on news posted 2005-02-22 10:31:47: The ISearch and IDownload applications have a long and sordid history of using clearly documented shady installation techniques; most recently making use of the WMP DRM vulnerability we've discussed at length. ..

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PhoenixDown
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This should go to court

so a judge can laugh and toss it out and send it as a warning to the rest of these idiots.
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 Just another reason to shoot all the lawyers

Just one more reason to, as Shakespeare said, shoot all the lawyers. When a company makes an illegitimate worthless product and sees that it may lose money when people realize it, they sue everyone in sight to save their bacon. When will the US court system put a stake thru the heart of these firms and their crooked lawyers.

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FLECOM
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watch out, dont step in the lawyers

if i was Castle Cops i would photocopy my middle finger and fax it to them :lol:

commando

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Re: Just another reason to shoot all the lawyers

Agreed. Isn't this against the freedom of press?

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Re: watch out, dont step in the lawyers

Exactly!!!!!!!!!

Plldwnyrpnts

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Re: Just another reason to shoot all the lawyers

What press? Are you asking the right question?

I'm not sure there is a constitutional right that would be violated.

Cyron

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Classification change

I think they should change the terms "Spyware" & "Adware", to "Things the normal person doesn't want on their computer".


B Karefel



wat u say here

you may get sued.... if you refer to them as anything other than what they think they are.... of course... what we think they are and what we think the software provided is... may indeed be a different story...

my my my... I can't hardly beleive this nonsense

Plldwnyrpnts

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Here's the solution

They don't want to be referred to as spyware, sooooo refer to them as adware (if that's what they want) and market an adware removing product. If they want to be labeled as something else, label them that then make a product removing that label. How hard can that be?

I know, my newest product will be called....."Advert remover".

Remove all advertising software from your computer with just a click of a button with new "Advert Remover"

Can they sue me?


baby_bear

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 Isearch/Idownload is Scum/ad/crap/spy/garbageware

What's next, virus writers sending cease and desist letters to company's like symantec? Because thier files are labeled as viruses instead of 'alternate operating system configuration utilities'?

Maybe paying customers of Adaware should sent out cease & desist letter to adaware about any scumware definition removal.


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If it smells like a rose...

There are overtones to all of this that just aren't getting picked up by everyone's radar.

Since when do software companies get to decide whom is good and whom is bad? I thought that was the job of we consumers? Now, I'm not one for barring corporations from marketing to improve their image. There have been legitimate turn-around stories, though none dealing with the publicity companies directly that I'm aware.

Companies damn their credibility when they resort to vulnerability exploitation to get their message across. This activity should not be acceptable to consumers, and we must be willing to do everything in our power to avoid using these "products." That means migrating away from the products they exploit to do their work. Alternatives to Windows Media Player and Internet Explorer exist. Enhancements and fixes to the products are available, and their application is crucial if you wish to continue using them. You can also run as non-privileged users in any OS. This further complicates unauthorized adware installation by mitigating the threat of automatic software installation.
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reply to FLECOM
Re: watch out, dont step in the lawyers

I think a three word reply would work:

KISS MY ASS!


DaveNJ
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Re: This should go to court

i agree, it corporate cohersion, Malware is Malware.


dadkins
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Ok,

so let's call it what it ACTUALLY is CRAP-ware!

Who here(anywhere)want's that BS on their computers? Not ME!!!


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Re: Classification change

said by Cyron See Profile:

I think they should change the terms "Spyware" & "Adware", to "Things the normal person doesn't want on their computer".
That is a good idea. Why can't someone make a product that allows me to EASILY identify what software is installed and then have it remove that software no matter what its classification. Instead of calling their software anti-spyware or anti-adware, maybe they can call it anti-"keep your crap off my computer ware".:D
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Just change what you call it

This is a simple solution, any program that is unknowingly, yet legally downloaded to a user's computer that changes its configuration,uses critical system resources and resist efforts to remove it, should be classified as Malware. A program's designation of Malware is a lot worse than many spyware programs that only seek to track harmless cookies.

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Re: This should go to court

It will be interesting to see if they send a cease and desist order to Microsoft, for MS Antispyware for finding and deleting this undwanted junk.

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Re: wat u say here

I think a generic name would work. No more spyware/adware/maleware

Call everything autoloading software.

To NOT BE classified as autoloading it would have to meet the following
1. Program must be downloaded from the net or run off CD. No activeX installs java installs etc.
2. Program install must specifically be run by user. Either the download or off the CD.
3. On installer can only install 1 program.
4. Installer must specifically inform user of what it is installing.

I am sure you could come up with better rules but you get the idea. With this type of setup should leave the spyware/adware companies much room


SSX4life
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Re: This should go to court

It it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, sounds like a duck, had "gozzlings" then it's a FREAKING DUCK.

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reply to DaveNJ
That's very true, just like murder is murder, speeding is speeding. I can't believe the lengths that some of these companies are going to for their crappy products. But then again it puts food on their plates, so they are going to fight everything tooth and nail.
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