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Comments on news posted 2005-03-09 09:18:02: iDownload has responded to both Castle Cops and Sunbelt Software's refusal to characterize their software as anything other than spyware (which it is, since it has been proven to use unethical installation techniques). ..

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borborpa
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If you can't uninstall it....

It's Malware/spyware. If it's legitimately installed, and easy to uninstall, then I'm more at ease with it. All I know is it took me hours to get rid of iSearch on someone's computer, because I had to find some no-descrpt .exe that kept re-installing it whenever SpyBot killed it.
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LagAndFrag

join:2003-02-05
West Branch, MI
Ya Right.:)

If it walks Like a duck, Quacks Like a Duck, And Looks Like A Duck......Well....it's A DUCK!


ColdFiltered

join:2005-01-25
Atlanta, GA
Sounds like a politician ...

trying to run for office on a soil background. S_it is s_it.

sweepy17

join:2004-07-21
Apex, NC
New Term

Since the lawyers do not like the term spyware or malware, might I suggest that we start to use the word 'Crapware" to describe their product. Do the crap eating attornys have any basis of a lawsuit then ?


cdru
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reply to LagAndFrag
Re: Ya Right.:)

They could also be a witch. Either way, I say we burn 'em.
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oliphant
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reply to sweepy17
Re: New Term

From their obvious toning down of their rhetoric in those replies, they appear to understand that there was never a basis for a lawsuit and hoped that the nastygrams would scare the bloggers into shutting up.

For those two quite the opposite and now that people see that iDownload's sharks are toothless wusses hopefully more will stand by their assertions and not buckle like PC Pitstop did.
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Jason Levine
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Lawyer speak

The writeup does a good job of translating the lawyer-speak, but you missed one:

We are currently engaged in an open dialogue with several large security firms, with the end goal being to reach a consensus as to the proper characterization of iSearch.
Translation: We are trying to pay off some anti-spyware vendors so that they won't include iDownload and iSearch in their spyware/malware definitions.
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mythology

join:2002-10-16
Seneca, SC
reply to LagAndFrag
Re: Ya Right.:)

"If it walks Like a duck, Quacks Like a Duck, And Looks Like A Duck......Well....it's A DUCK!"

Or a retarded korean chicken.


technick
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reply to borborpa
Re: If you can't uninstall it....

I agree, it is spyware (Aka crapware). Now is someone going to sue me because I agree, and I call it that? If they do I hope for their sake I can't find them. Suing anyone is not going to prove who is right or wrong, just who has more money.

BarneyBadAss
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reply to borborpa
Ok, how about we (as a group) go at it like this since we know who the company is; where they are; and what they are doing.

(I'm not in the legal profession, so please don't consture this as being an action you should take. I'm hoping some of the folks involved in the legal profession will step in and claify what might be achievable.)

Every time we get this software from Idownload installed (unwantedly) on our systems we file suit in small claims court asking for 2 x your hourly wages for the amount of time it took to get out of your system.

The reason for filing in small claims court; simple; in the majority of the states within the United States; the actual defendant must appear and can not be represented by legal represneation.

In most cases; (as I understand it) small claims law is generally used to force the defendant to provide restution or otherwise make whole the petitioner(s) property to what it was prior to the offence.

Considering; there is likely we would all site as the person to be served the court summons; it stands to reason he'd have a hard time being in all the required locations at the same time; hence; the person beng summoned would loose the majority of the cases because the defendant did not show up to the mandantory appear.

Now; trying to get the money from the company / person / may prove to be difficult; but that's another story.

---Barney


technick
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Yes and No, some of that are good idea's. Like dragging them to small claims court. As far as legal representation, when I went to court against my former employer, nothing I saw denied me the right to untilize a lawyers services.

Also as far as the timing goes, most courts will reschedule if they have to be in court in another district, county, state. You will have court cases lined up between here and eternety. Also if you fail, they can counter file for lost time and wages having to come fight you.
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SRFireside

join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX


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reply to Jason Levine
Re: Lawyer speak


"This perception is contrary to reality."
 

"We trust that you will conform your published materials, as we previously requested"
 
Yup. I see where this is going.


OceanaJones

join:2004-10-18
Suffolk, VA

Let the court battle begin

Alright, it looks like they are willing to file law suites, and have the debate battled out in court. Just don't be suckered into the debate by foolishly sending cash to litigants needing money to "fight the battle". Hold on to your hard earned cash.


micl
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reply to Jason Levine
Re: Lawyer speak

These guys aren't lawyers... they are a PR firm hired to masqurade as lawyers.
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timetogetrealfast

DEATH to all Spammer/Spyware criminals !

The only good Spammer/Spyware/Hacker is a DEAD one !


woody7
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Torrance, CA
Hmmmm.....

Tell you what, if you put an uninstaller in your program that actually works, that is uninstalls all the "crapware" that it installed we might reconsider what we call it, like uninstallable "Crapware"
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joebear29

join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL
reply to SRFireside
Re: Lawyer speak

Uh, they are going to commit genocide?

Did I miss the anology?

damox
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SRFireside

join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
reply to joebear29
Re: Lawyer speak

It's the fascist slant where you must conform to what they perceive as the truth and do away with anything that contradicts them.

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reply to cdru
Re: Ya Right.:)

said by cdru See Profile:

They could also be a witch. Either way, I say we burn 'em.
Spyware turned me into a newt.

I got better.
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