Happyrat
Google Is Your Best Friend
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join:2002-07-01
Disneyland | Call it crapware then...
A duck is a duck is a duck... |
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xillusionx
| spyware
Personally, all those who complain about be classfied as spyware should give up. Even if we all call them another name , everyone will know the short to the point name spyware.
-illusion |
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jjcrandall
join:2004-01-01
Salt Lake City, UT | Crapware
any time you download a program and can't get rid of everything when you remove it. It's spyware. "mild adware" is just pr talk for annoying app that never goes away and tracks your internet movement. |
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Daemon
Premium
join:2003-06-29
San Francisco, CA
 ·Comcast
| depends on the definition of spyware
I think the term spyware has transcended the original meaning, which was a hidden program installed that tracks your behavior and reports it to an outside source.
It's now been applied to any program that tracks your behavior and displays ads. Even if people know they are installing the program, they still don't like what it does or that fact that they have to install it to install whatever it came bundled with. Thus, it gets labelled spyware because it's irritating.
It's similar, in my opinion, to the label hacker. It transcended it's original meaning to include those cracking systems maliciously.
Sorry cydoor, I think it's going to be hard to change our collective psyches
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Rickez
Goinginsane
join:2000-09-02
Three Rivers, MA
 ·Vonage
·Comcast
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| ad-serving technology as spyware
"In regard with your article, I would like to bring your attention to your categorization of our ad-serving technology as spyware. I believe that this categorization is mistaken,..."
Anyone know of a good ad-serving technology remover?
Lets see theres Ad-Aware, aware of the ad-serving technology? AKA Spyware.
Are you reading this Orit Levy? We do not want your junk on our computers, that is the bottom line. |
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Nerdtalker
Working Hard, Or Hardly Working?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ
clubs:
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Re: Call it crapware then...
said by Happyrat  :A duck is a duck is a duck... If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck ***news flash*** It is a duck! |
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StudioTech
S2409W plus SA4250HD
join:2001-10-10
Edison, NJ | Ok, you've convinced me, Cydoor. I believe you...
NOT! |
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
| So by their logic a peeping Tom isn't spying?
Simply because the Tom doesn't know the name of the broad he's watching?
In every EULA buried at the 12,000th word is the fine print about how an app bends you over and F's ya. That's not the point. The point is a duck is a duck whether you know it's a duck or don't know it's a duck.
Any app that reports ANYTHING about the end user including performance statistics is spying whether it attaches a name to it or not.
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nikdo
Premium
join:2002-02-26
Dacula, GA
| No, thank you
No one will ever make me understand why the combination of owning a computer(s) and it being connected to the internet gives anyone a right to think this means I want to be a target for their advertising. The closest thing to an "excuse" they have is that it is part of an agreement for "free" software. Personally, I would much rather pay for software I require, and if I do decide to take advantage of an application that is free, then I will only choose one that I know contains nothing other than the function it was written for.
I paid for my computer.
I paid for my software.
I pay for my broadband every month.
I do not wish to pay or assist anyone who degrades any of the above. |
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jjoshua
Premium
join:2001-06-01
Scotch Plains, NJ | Who is making the classification?
As a community, we're free to classify it however we want to.
Thanks for your opinion, Cydoor. It has been duly noted. |
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Nezmo
The name's Bond. James Bond.
Premium,MVM
join:2004-11-10
Coppell, TX | reply to nikdo
Re: No, thank you
So well put nikdo... |
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Murray3
join:2001-03-06
Texas
| Doesn't Make It Right
So they think Adware is any better than Spyware? Ads might not spy on an individual, but it's still an invasion of privacy... and a huge nuisance.
When it comes to something going over your internet wire that is undesirable and unwanted, it doesn't matter what it's labelled as. |
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Grail Knight
Who Dares Wins
Premium
join:2003-05-31 | And we all just fell off the Turnip truck!
Keep an eye out they may be next to pass the TAC. |
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MrWhippit
You Big Dummy Gimmie Back My Bandwith
Premium
join:2002-04-04
Philadelphia, PA | I know who could get this to work for him!
Get BILLY MAYS!!
If anyone can make a product legit he can.
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Its all BALL-BEARINGS these days! |
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AtomicZero
join:2004-11-24
West Palm Beach, FL
| reply to Happyrat
Re: Call it crapware then...
said by Happyrat :A duck is a duck is a duck... agreed, but you gotta love those Ad guys, always coming up with the slick wording...um, no this is not spyware you just have a case of MILD adware. I understand that the developers of freeware and all that goes under that title of free needs to generate revenue somehow, all I say is make sure you let the end users know what they are installing. Let us make the choice to screw up our PCs or not. |
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DownLow
Nope...I Got Nothing
Premium
join:2001-04-25
Long Island
| reply to Happyrat
A piece of advice to Cydoor...
Don't just "urge" your partners to state upfront that their application is freeware but is supported by advertising" - REQUIRE IT. If you customers are guilty...so are you!
Unwanted software is just that..unwanted!
Quack!!
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Cleverly Disguised As A Responsible Adult! |
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | ad creatives?
oh FOCK all of this slick marketing talk. You push shit onto people's computers, plain and simple. |
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Tsume
join:2004-02-23
Johnson City, TN
·Embarq
·ViaTalk
·Comcast
| I believe this is justified
It isn't nearly as bad as most unwanted-wares to date, and it really doesn't steal very private information.
However, I do not believe that this should be removed from adware/spyware scanners. It should still be enabled for deletion by default, and be optional to disable scanning for it [I know you can do this in Spybot S&D].
They actually sent a nice letter, one that doesn't accuse or point fingers. If that is truely representing of the company, then I do believe this falls under Adware and not Spyware. To me, it's the same when it comes to scanning and deletion. It just isn't a big privacy risk. |
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newview
Ex .. Ex .. Exactly
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join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
| Is Cydoor Spware?
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anonqnrt
@verio.net | Let readers respond
DSL Reports should hold a contest; for readers to write a response letter. Everyone could vote for the best response letter to Cydoor. |
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