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Comments on news posted 2005-03-17 18:53:02: The latest spat over the deployment of broadband over power-lines is occurring in Hagerstown, Maryland, according to the Associated Press. ..

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JAAulde
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Hagerstown, MD


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WooHoo

My hometown made the front page of DSLR!

Edit: Was in a hurry a little while ago and didn't get a chance to finish...

I'll just say that the Hagersotwn City Government is one of the best at what it does. I believe they want the best and work hard to get it for the community. I am positive that if this turns out to cause interference and other problems, they will pull the plug so to speak.

I applaud them for looking into it and hope it works out. But I am confident they won't let it break other relied upon services.

I don't even live in the areas that would be serviced. But am extremely interested in the fact that 'lil 'ol Hagerstown is getting into the alternative broadband ideas.

Jim

Thaler
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Encino, CA
You have my deepest condolences...


Qumahlin
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united state

"there's "absolutely zero" chance the technology could interfere with local radio signals, as critics suggest."

Since when did results from testing turn from being fact into critics?

How about the reasons behind other towns cancelling BPL deployment..they just cancelled it for no reason?....

Critics my ass, it's called scientific testing
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ashworth

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Pittsburgh, PA
reply to JAAulde
You should hope this goes through....more choices for you and your community ??

RadioDoc
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Cool. Then they won't mind agreeing...

...to mitigating all damages caused to all spectrum users by this backwater technology, and will cease all operation immediately if the system causes even a single "pop" on any radio in the area. After all, there is "absolutely zero chance" it will cause any interference, right?

What a bunch of PR crap.

Thaler
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Encino, CA

reply to Qumahlin
Re: WooHoo

said by Qumahlin See Profile:

Critics my ass, it's called scientific testing
No...it's called "scientific testing" if it supports your position, and "criticism" if it doesn't.


Descent
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WDC Suburb
reply to JAAulde
My state made the home page of BBR


GemSnake
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Just do it!

I'm sooooo tired of this BPL thing, it's not even funny. Just frigging try it, if it works then it work, if it interferes then it's their damn fault for not listening. Let them learn on their own mistakes.
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"In a fight between you and the world, bet on the world." - Franz Kafka


KoolMoe
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reply to RadioDoc
Re: Cool. Then they won't mind agreeing...

Agreed.
Sounds like the perfect opportunity for a WISP to come in and save the day, as well as make some good cash doing it.
KM

NetEng_Dude

join:2004-07-17

BPL = "Absolutely Zero" Credibility

"Absolutely Zero" accurately describes the credibility of the BPL pump-and-dump industry. Puffed-up customer take rates, exaggerated performance claims, misrepresentation of rural applicability. Now it's outright, bald-face lying about the interference problems. All par for the course from these characters.


Daishi7
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reply to GemSnake
Re: Just do it!

They have been doing it.


not for BPL



 200Mbps Video, Voice, and Data CPE Solution on BPL

RE: »biz.yahoo.com/bw/050317/175694_1.html

Corinex Communications and DS2 Develop First in Industry Embedded Powerline Module to Deliver 200Mbps Video, Voice, and Data CPE Solution over Powerlines
Thursday March 17, 4:57 pm ET

HANNOVER, Germany--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 17, 2005--Corinex Communications Corp. and DS2 are proud to announce the immediate availability of the Powerline industry's first embedded powerline solution. The new 200Mbps embedded solution enables manufacturers of PC's, set top boxes, and ADSL2+ residential gateways to easily implement powerline technology to their communication products, allowing for the distribution of video, voice, and data throughout an entire premise.
The embedded powerline solution enables manufacturers to meet both the cost reduction demands and the quality of service and high bandwidth demands of operators who are looking to deploy triple play including IP TV and VoIP services to the home. Corinex has created a new design group which has the knowledge and expertise to offer the integration of powerline management functionality with existing management platforms in ADSL2+ gateways and setop boxes, enabling manufacturers to build powerful integrated solutions at significantly reduced costs and shorter times to market.

"It is becoming obvious that operators are targeting powerline communications as the only feasible solution for their IP TV rollout strategies," stated Jorge Blasco, President DS2. "Our partnership effort with Corinex ensures that operators world wide will achieve the best price and performance when deploying new multimedia services".

Corinex will manufacture the embedded module and provide consulting and design modification services to manufacturers to achieve optimal performance for their markets. Complete software system integration services will also be offered to third parties by Corinex.

"Most major tier one operators in North America and Europe are already in field trials or laboratory tests with Corinex's 200 Mbps powerline technology," quotes Brian Donnelly, Director of Business Development for Corinex. "We believe our new embedded solution allowing carriers to offer cost effective simultaneous multiple video streaming services and ultra high-speed internet connectivity with secure VLAN tagging will enable first adopters to have a significant market advantage. Several companies have been asking for this solution and Corinex is happy to be delivering".

"After acceptance by the UPA (Universal Powerline Association), ETSI (European Telecommunication Stadards Institute) and OPERA (Open PLC European Research Alliance) solution is becoming the standard of choice in ADSL2+ deployment stategy by operators" stated Victor Dominguez, DS2 Director of Strategy and Standardization.


HOLD BPL



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Re: Exclusive BPL Site Visit Tour: new york city

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please

@midco.net

reply to JAAulde
Re: WooHoo

Oh sure a company bidding for bpl would say there is no interference even the fcc says theses no interference but money always overrides laws,common sense. there are interference on power line it just within a mile of them but persons with the power company say theres no interference on there lines.


53059959
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone

join:2002-10-02
PwnZone
reply to Thaler
we need to get rid of old technologies like radio to make way for new technologies like bpl. cmon this is the 21st century. adapt or die.


Clickie

@mi.cha

You're joking, right? Because nobody can be that naive or that stupid.

What do you think your cell phone uses? How about television? How about GPS?

It's all radio waves, Einstein. What you do with them depends upon how you modulate it.


Oh_Really

@swbell.ne

reply to HOLD BPL
Re: Exclusive BPL Site Visit Tour: new york city

"a fusion of BPL magic"

Pretty funny, next thing you know it will have twice the flavor with no calories. Or it will be infused with a citrus and spice...

Dude give some factual information rather than this regurgitated advertisement.

Tell me how well will BPL work when I run my vacuum cleaner, blender or any other device that causes interference?



Oh_Really

@swbell.ne

reply to 53059959
Re: WooHoo

So I guess you don't care for WiFi, WiMax or any other wireless technology?

How about your car stereo? You don't need to use that FM or AM radio right? Guess we had better shelve that XM radio too, old technology...

Good thing you got cable internet access.


Oh_Really

@swbell.ne

reply to GemSnake
Re: Just do it!

Like the poster said, they have been doing it. Funny thing is that no one talks about how BPL handles interference from other sources. As we all know, noise kills bandwidth. They send data on unshielded cables/wires, do you think that there won't be any interference picked up? Why do you think shielded ethernet cables are the preferred type of wiring for a network (excluding fiber)?

The laws of physics won't magically vanish because the BPL proponents say it's so.


Oh_Really

@swbell.ne
reply to not for BPL
Re: 200Mbps Video, Voice, and Data CPE Solution on BPL

So you used "not for BPL" in your first post and now you used "HOLD BPL" for this post.

Will your next post be "HOLD NOT FOR BPL"?
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