Mike
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join:2000-09-17
Pittsburgh, PA
clubs:   | Congress 1. Interests Groups 94585
Finally on the board wooooooo!!! |
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Taget
join:2004-07-29 | Sounds like....
...that either that is one chairman who will soon lose his job or it's just public posturing before he really does let them write the bill. |
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Tomek
Premium
join:2002-01-30
Brooklyn, NY
 ·Packet8
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Re: Congress 1. Interests Groups 94585
Another names for corruption:
Lobbying, donations for campaigns, blacklisting.
Did I miss something?
Anyway, I'm happy that so far, congress has something to say. After all they should represent the people, not highest bidder.
Old Joke:
If pro is for, and con against,
What's the opposite of PROgress?
CONgress
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Brianv5
Low Level Functionary
Premium
join:2001-01-20
Keyser, WV | I might move back!
Hey, if that happens, I'd leave TN and go back home to WV. You go rednecks! Bring your shotguns to the senate and lay down the law to the lobbyists!
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CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County
| Finally....
Legislators standing up to the lobbyists and declaring themselves as representatives for the people and the state. About time - I can only hope more states do the same including Ohio....
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Brian
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dsless
join:2001-05-16
Pittsburgh, PA
| Verizon is busy doing nothing
to prompt broadband in our state. Hell will freeze over before verizon will put an RT up to my area (I am only 25k away.). Verizon, were is the FIOS roll out for WV?  :p;):(:D |
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Lincoln99
Premium
join:2005-03-24
Pleasant Grove, UT | Finally, some courage
The primary reason American is such a great place is because our leaders in the past had the courage to lead.
Taking orders from a selfish monopoly, like Verizon, is NOT leading.
Well done West Virginia! |
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NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA
1 edit | reply to Tomek
Re: Congress 1. Interests Groups 94585
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the count still stands at: Congress 0. Interests Groups 94585
This is the State legislature of West Virginia not the U.S. Congress.
Everyone always downs West Virginia for being ass-backwards and country but it seems their representatives are a helluva lot smarter than those of the other 49 states and the Distric of Columbia.
Good Job West Virginia! |
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sweintz
Premium
join:2002-03-01
Hamden, CT | Lets tell this lobbyist how stupid he is!
His name is John Ruddick.
Email and phone:
Phone: 304-344-7234
E-mail:john.r.ruddick@verizon.com
Maybe if the PUBLIC lobbies HIM to KNOCK IT OFF, Verizon will get the message?
So lets get at it!
Email him.
Call. him. |
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FTCXtreme
join:2005-03-14
New Braintree, MA
| reply to CylonRed
Re: Finally....
Yeah baby now only 100 senators and like 400 house members to go, This country need people to fight for Us, the fact is that one of the parties needs to push this, Hell If the Democrats pushed for our rights, I'd become a democrat Im a republican, and woudl becoem a democrat if the pushed for our broadband. |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| reply to NPGMBR
Re: Congress 1. Interests Groups 94585
said by NPGMBR  :...it seems their representatives are a helluva lot smarter than those of the other 49 states and the Distric of Columbia. Good Job West Virginia! I wouldn't go so far as to say Virgina is the only state with some intelligence in the union. Other states have turned down ILEC lobby efforts as well. Texas (of all places) actually turned down lobby-induced legislation just recently. Still West V. did a good job. |
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xrobertcmx
Premium
join:2001-06-18
Sterling, VA
clubs: | reply to NPGMBR
No kidding, I still can't believe this is West Virginia pulling this off.
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Sunburn
join:2000-10-05
Denver, CO
| reply to sweintz
Re: Lets tell this lobbyist how stupid he is!
said by sweintz :His name is John Ruddick. Email and phone: Phone: 304-344-7234 E-mail:john.r.ruddick@verizon.com Maybe if the PUBLIC lobbies HIM to KNOCK IT OFF, Verizon will get the message? So lets get at it! Email him. Call. him. You guys obviously don't understand the real issues here for the telecom industry and technological innovation which benefits the consumer. Such is the gullible ignoramus...in the majority.
Produce legislation to subsidise Verizon's competition and you will never see them invest another dollar in their Fiber roll-out plans. They are a company that has to make a profit or go out of business.
Once this municipal network is up it will advance and be upgraded at a rate akin to standing still. Without the ability to leach off the technological advancements that capitalism produces munis will have to tax you at a rate of 10x your annual income to advance at the same rate.
Companies do R&D to beat their competition. If you think socialism will accomplish the same results then your a clueless fool. If this was implemented in 1995 you would not even know the internet as it exists today....you would still be on dialup. |
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Ignite
Premium,VIP
join:2004-03-18
UK
clubs:
 ·BlueYonder Interne..
 ·Be There
| Nonsense. If companies did R&D and then released the technology as soon as it were available I'd agree with you but...
Do Verizon offer 8Mbit/768kbit DSL (doesn't require any R+D, ADSL-1 does it right out of the box?. No? They artifically throttle it, even those lines which are capable. They could make all lines rate adaptive as BT over here appear to be planning to and allow customers to have whatever service their line will reliably support.
Do Verizon offer ADSL2 / ADSL2+ / VDSL?
Do Verizon offer 100% coverage of broadband services in their areas?
Sorry but if I'm a gullible ignoramus I'm no more gullible than you are for thinking that any company gives two hoots about R&D for the sake of improving services. It's focussed purely towards improving bottom lines, as is everything else private companies do.
At very least in the short - medium term a municpal company offering a higher rated DSL service will offer immediate advantages over Verizon, and for those in areas Verizon doesn't see fit to service it's going to be their only hope for a while.
Verizon's FIOS is a huge step in the right direction by the way... However the Passive Optical technology to support this service has again been around for some time.
Sorry but you appear to believe the lobbyists and the 'we're only looking out for you' sales pitches.
From the point of view of W Virginia this can only be a good thing should it proceed.
Quite horrifying from an outsider's point of view how much power corporations appear to have in the USA. Hope the kind of democracy that GWB is obsessed with spreading throughout the world isn't supposed to be sold by the dollar as his own countries apparently is. |
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SpitefulCrow
Insert Witty Tag Here
Premium
join:2003-06-04
Berkeley, CA | reply to Tomek
Re: Congress 1. Interests Groups 94585
Reader, suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. -- Mark Twain
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Mac Bridger
Beat It Again Bill
Premium
join:2001-01-11
Smithton, PA
clubs: | reply to Mike
Who woulda thunk it? West "By Gawd" Virginia doing it too. That's gotta be typo or something.
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dsless
join:2001-05-16
Pittsburgh, PA
1 edit | reply to Sunburn
Re: Lets tell this lobbyist how stupid he is!
Please show me where Verizon has made a big investment in communications infrastructure in our state? Verizon has had a free hand to invest and deploy communications products. But for the most part the rural area of this state has received jack from Verizon. So your statement really doesn't stand here.
edit caus I can't type. |
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jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH
| Waiting...
For how long now has next-generation internet been waiting to be deployed?
Hell, many asian countries are probly working on Gen-5 right now, while we are stuck with Gen-.5!
For years now we have been doing everything but screaming at the providers for faster speeds, and nearly every time they found some excuse to forgo it (My personal favorite is SBC's "Fiber is not a proven technology").
If the internet companies wont provide it, at least we can get it from somewhere...
If munis work out (which I believe they will), I hope it:
1) Gets the cable/telcos off their butts and moving on next-gen deployment without all the excuses (currently awaiting the 'not enough funding due to current mergers' excuse).
2) Satisfies our own frustrations of corporate bypassing, and provides us with next-gen broadband that we have been dieing for.
3) Lets other states that are trying to pass muni-bans see the light and kill the bills (no movie-pun intended). |
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jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH | reply to Mac Bridger
Re: Congress 1. Interests Groups 94585
and if all these munis work (like Washington's UTOPIA, WV's project, and others) I hope that other states will learn from it and drop/block the muni ban bills. |
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jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH
| reply to dsless
Re: Verizon is busy doing nothing
Knowing Verizon and SBC, probably on the other side of 'never'.
It is rediculus that even some areas would never be considered 'marketable' to the corporations, and now blocking their one chance at getting broadband through government?
What have the corporations been smoking (then passing it to the gov. reps.)? |
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