snipper_cr
join:2002-01-22
Wheaton, IL
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| Paper thin?
A condom is paper thin and look how much protection THAT offers :-D :P
Anyawys jokes aside, this shouldnt come as too much of a suprise. I mean, how much security can a password protected system really offer? Eventually, someone is going to find a way around it and break in, this as a case.
The major threat are those 70% un protected networks. I know in my room alone, i can pick up 3 networks, only ONE of them is secure. The rest i can log in, view network places, go into the routers admin page (admin/admin logins usually).
WEP needs to be AUTOMATICALLY enabled if we wish to deture major network threats.
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jwersan
R.I.P. Mom, Brian, Ziggy, and Max.
Premium
join:2004-12-20
Port Jefferson Station, NY
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| What!?!?!?!?
The FBI demonstrated this attack to the computer security professionals at the ISSA meeting in order to show the inadequate protection offered by WEP. It is one thing to read stories of WEP being broken in minutes, but it is shocking to see the attack done right before your eyes. It was fast and simple.
Thankfully, the FBI are the good guys.
I love this comment at the end of the story...
The FBI are good guys????
I don't think so!!! |
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Bill
Light Up The Halo
Premium,VIP
join:2001-12-09
clubs: | They are the good guys compared to others who could be cracking your network. |
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markopoleo
join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO | No surprise here
Drive 10 miles from my house and you would get hundreds, i mean HUNDREDS of unprotected wireless networks. The scary/funny part? I live in hicksville, usa. :P
They have many funny names, lots of curse words for network names. :P |
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snipper_cr
join:2002-01-22
Wheaton, IL
clubs:
| I still think the most common one ive come accross is:
linksys
or
motorola
Generally if you find one of those its un protected, but not all.
Hell, we were able to get high speed internet while on vacation in florida from a linksys unprotected service... and the people were never home!
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BIGHUSKER
join:2002-01-20
Minneapolis, MN
1 edit | Thank God I still only have a wired router
OK, I don't really need a wireless one since there are no laptops in our house, but it's nice to not have to worry about someone getting relatively easy access to my network. |
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hx02
@12.165.x.x
 from:
Matt 
thumbs down from:
Andrew J
| 3mins... under *nix
3mins is a bit low, i have done it in an hour under under winblows with minimal network traffic. really the fbi cheated by creating more network traffic by interfering with the network, i prefer to do everything passively
for all you peeps wondering how to hax0r, just look for history here @ bbr and find the article about wep cracking comparisons from a few months ago
btw I use aircrack in XP
»www.cr0.net:8040/code/network/aircrack/ |
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bradleym
join:2002-08-05
Dunfermline, IL | And yet....
Here's the FBI demonstrating what can happen with improper wireless security practices, while the other 700 government agencies can't secure their wired networks.  |
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reub2000
Premium
join:2001-12-28
Evanston, IL | reply to snipper_cr
Re: Paper thin?
You mean WPA-PSK. I feel safe using a randomly generated string of letters, uppercase letters, and numbers, at least 20 chars long and changed every few months. I get complains, but IMO it better than being hacked. |
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reaver221
join:2003-05-08
Cincinnati, OH | reply to hx02
Re: 3mins... under *nix
you are awesome. |
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
Premium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
·Cox HSI
 ·Speakeasy
| reply to jwersan
Re: What!?!?!?!?
Good is a relative term.
In this instance, it was a demonstration of capability. It wasn't charges showing up on your bank statement.
-tom
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
Premium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
·Cox HSI
·Speakeasy
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Re: And yet....
said by bradleym :Here's the FBI demonstrating what can happen with improper wireless security practices, while the other 700 government agencies can't secure their wired networks. Yeah, well... Why should their wireless networks be any different than any of their other computing infrastructure.
-tom
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B
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28
| And the Secret Service lets its employees log in as administrator, and can't trust them not to disable government-mandated background applications. (See recent password cracking story.)
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In a realm outside causality and function |
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deepblackmag
join:2004-12-27
00000
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Re: What!?!?!?!?
wtf bill, they arent the good guys. If they are breaking into your network its probablly to toss u in jail for 10-15 hard time. If the wardrivers do it, its to check their mail. and if the kiddiots do it, its to steal ur credit card (which ur CC company will refund to u)
Out of all of these options, WHO would you like cracking into your network. |
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donaldk
Premium
join:2000-10-19
Thunder Bay, ON | reply to reub2000
Re: Paper thin?
Fort most people getting WPA-PSK is too much of a pain in the ass to get working on XP... especially the novices. |
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reub2000
Premium
join:2001-12-28
Evanston, IL | it is? I haven't had any problems other than mistyped keys. And one would strongly asume that would affect WEP too. |
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lookma
@optonline.net | reply to snipper_cr
see, if the fbi can do it in 3 minutes, think of what a hacker with SKILLZ can do... |
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andreo
join:2001-03-30
Des Moines, IA
| reply to snipper_cr
There are also times when the wireless components don't offer WPA. For example: the wireless media kits that are coming out (like Buffalo's new wireless media player) and wired to wireless network bridges. So your left either not enabling protection or adding the flawed WEP protection.
While WEP is better then sticking your network out there for all the world to access, I think the product manufactures should be adding WPA (and the long promised firmware updates, in some cases) to their products. |
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damox
Premium
join:2002-01-07
Olympia, WA
·Comcast Formerly ..
| reply to jwersan
Re: What!?!?!?!?
said by jwersan :The FBI are good guys???? I don't think so!!! Yeah, in this country, unless you're a criminal, or you just happen to be into anarchy, law enforcement is the good guys, unless of course you've been watching too many of those movies where law enforcement is portrayed as the bad guys!
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ff1324
Everybody Goes Home
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join:2002-08-24
On Four Day
| reply to deepblackmag
said by deepblackmag :wtf bill, they arent the good guys. If they are breaking into your network its probablly to toss u in jail for 10-15 hard time. What do you have to hide? They can look at my computers all they want. They'll find firefighting pictures, about a billion pictures of my kid, saved MOHAA games, and emails from my parents, coworkers, and college friends.
Yeah, I've got a lot to hide there....
So, what are you hiding?
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