moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Gee, talk about sugar coating it......
Yep, not one mention of any possible interference problems.
They do mention that this is "new" technology and there will be "bumps in the road." Little do they know. 
Also, look at the problem that some customers have been having with not all of their electrical outlets being about to get their connection.
Plus, as a side note, I wonder how long the WiFi part will remain free and open if their is no money made on it. |
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bugle533
join:2004-06-16
Schaumburg, IL
| said by moonpuppy  :Yep, not one mention of any possible interference problems. From the Cincinnati Enquirer:
"Joe Phillips of Fairfield, the Ohio section chief for the American Radio Relay League, says that so far the Cinergy roll-out hasn't created the radio interference many ham radio operators had feared." |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD | Now that is weird. Didn't see that part of the article the first time around. 
Maybe this browser didn't fully load the page or the work proxy has been acting up again. |
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rf_engineer
join:2003-08-04
USA
| reply to bugle533
said by bugle533 :said by moonpuppy :Yep, not one mention of any possible interference problems. From the Cincinnati Enquirer: "Joe Phillips of Fairfield, the Ohio section chief for the American Radio Relay League, says that so far the Cinergy roll-out hasn't created the radio interference many ham radio operators had feared." It's been rumored that Cinergy has stayed out of the HF radio spectrum (1-30 Mhz), so this would explain why there hasn't been interference issues with ham radio operators. |
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cptmiles
Premium
join:2004-04-22
Swayzee, IN
| Rural BPL
Wasn't the premise of BPL to deliver hi speed Internet to the more rural areas cheaper and easier than the phone company? How could they expect to really penetrate a saturate city environment market by giving the same or in most cases less speeds for about the same price? If BPL had the same potential for capacity as fiber I might be a little more understanding, but hasn't it been physically proven that BPL has a maximum transfer rate of a few Meg? If Cinergy really wanted to make a dent they would use their right-of-way power and deploy a serious FTTP product. If I were a Cinergy employee I would be worrying about where my pension is being invested. |
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JKrums
join:2002-03-18
Allentown, PA | reply to rf_engineer
Re: Gee, talk about sugar coating it......
BPL has, in all cases I know of, not caused any harmfull interference with HAM Radio operators. True, the potential exists, but welcome to any technology using RF. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
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Re: Rural BPL
said by cptmiles :Wasn't the premise of BPL to deliver hi speed Internet to the more rural areas cheaper and easier than the phone company? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks, I needed the laugh.  :D:D:D |
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rf_engineer
join:2003-08-04
USA
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Re: Gee, talk about sugar coating it......
said by JKrums :BPL has, in all cases I know of, not caused any harmfull interference with HAM Radio operators. True, the potential exists, but welcome to any technology using RF. There has been interference at several sites. Three sites were shut down with open interference complaints, and there are numerous filings with the FCC »p1k.arrl.org/~ehare/bpl/NPRM_hyperlinks.html . The potential has been modeled and proven to exist in the field. The way to make interference not occur is to not use frequencies used by licensees in the area. |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
1 edit | reply to rf_engineer
They probably moved it to the frequencies used by the fast food drive up windows.
"I want a triple with cheese no mayo, no ketchup, diet coke and please Biggie size it.
All this time the Wendy's employee hears BUZZZZZZ!!!*^*^%*
Snap-snap-snap wizz bang pow. Making a good faith effort
this poor person fills the order.
the customer looks at his order....Hey I didn't order no dam salad....;)
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NetEng_Dude
join:2004-07-17
3 edits | Take Rate Must Be Very Poor
I can't see how the number of subscribers is sensitive information. Note that they do not have a problem quantifying the number of homes "passed" (for whatever that is really worth, "passed" homes do not generate revenue).
If the numbers were good they would be shouting it from the rooftops. The third-party estimate of 8,000 subscribers out of 50,000 homes "passed" sounds much too generous. My hunch is the real number of customers is a surprisingly small fraction of the estimate.
Same pathetic story for all the BPL deployments including the handful in Europe. Not surprisingly, there are no real BPL success stories. |
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FTCXtreme
join:2005-03-14
New Braintree, MA | reply to Transmaster
Re: Gee, talk about sugar coating it......
I thought fast food things were wired. That woudl be funny if someone was DLing a porn video and all of a sudden they hear sex noises on the fast food mics. LMAO |
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FTCXtreme
join:2005-03-14
New Braintree, MA
| reply to cptmiles
Re: Rural BPL
It was, but its not gonna happen so therefore I dont support BPL. If BPL does work for what its was intended for Hell yess I'd support it, as long as it didn't interfere, I'd support it if i intered with assholes cell phones in public restaurants, I hate them people who dotn turn it off in a restaurant. |
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Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
·EarthLink
·AT&T Midwest
 ·Earthlink Cable Mo..
| reply to cptmiles
said by cptmiles :Wasn't the premise of BPL to deliver hi speed Internet to the more rural areas cheaper and easier than the phone company? What's also not noted is the areas they're currently in. I know they started in Hyde Park and I'd guess the other areas are similar in income makeup. Let's just say they ain't low-income 'hoods.... Can you get Cinergy BPL in Over-The-Rhine ?? Not likely... |
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Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
·EarthLink
·AT&T Midwest
·Earthlink Cable Mo..
| reply to moonpuppy
Re: Gee, talk about sugar coating it......
said by moonpuppy :Now that is weird. Didn't see that part of the article the first time around. Wouldn't surprise me as I've seen CNN do it all the time: They edit the article continually without noting that they do so... |
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Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH | (Off-topic) Keys to homes ??
From the article:
Today we have keys to over 62,000 Cincinnati area homes so we can go into those homes and read the meter.
Is this common ?? |
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yock
TFTC
Premium
join:2000-11-21
Fairfield, OH
1 edit | reply to bugle533
Re: Gee, talk about sugar coating it......
said by bugle533 :said by moonpuppy :Yep, not one mention of any possible interference problems. From the Cincinnati Enquirer: "Joe Phillips of Fairfield, the Ohio section chief for the American Radio Relay League, says that so far the Cinergy roll-out hasn't created the radio interference many ham radio operators had feared." And we in Fairfield are nowhere near the rollouts.
[edit]It would be interesting to know if he is talking about in Fairfield or if he takes reports from operators in the serviced areas.
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yock
TFTC
Premium
join:2000-11-21
Fairfield, OH
| reply to Hall
Re: Rural BPL
said by Hall :said by cptmiles :Wasn't the premise of BPL to deliver hi speed Internet to the more rural areas cheaper and easier than the phone company? What's also not noted is the areas they're currently in. I know they started in Hyde Park and I'd guess the other areas are similar in income makeup. Let's just say they ain't low-income 'hoods.... Can you get Cinergy BPL in Over-The-Rhine ?? Not likely... That's what strange about Hyde Park/Oakley, parts of them are very very nice and other parts are slummy. They certainly aren't as bad as OTR though.
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RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
1 edit | reply to cptmiles
said by cptmiles :Wasn't the premise of BPL to deliver hi speed Internet to the more rural areas cheaper and easier than the phone company? The premise of BPL is to separate venture capital from it's owner(s) as quickly as possible, without actually having to prove any viable product beforehand. See: Stock swindles.said by cptmiles : If Cinergy really wanted to make a dent they would use their right-of-way power and deploy a serious FTTP product. Cinergy is most likely just a cooperative third party "allowing" Current Communications Group to kite this project in the name of broadband access while Cinergy is eyeing is the ability to deploy automated bidirectional metering devices and load management at the individual customer level. Cinergy couldn't give a rats ass about getting anyone broadband access. Once this is deployed the broadband aspect will fade with the investor's money, while they "re-purpose" the mostly-abandoned infrastructure to their own benefit. At the data rates the utility needs, the interference potential is minimal. |
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sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
·Optimum Online
| reply to cptmiles
said by cptmiles :Wasn't the premise of BPL to deliver hi speed Internet to the more rural areas cheaper and easier than the phone company? No, it's all a big pump and dump scheme. Some of these guys are just a little late to the party.
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ITOscar
join:2004-08-04
Dayton, OH | reply to Hall
Re: (Off-topic) Keys to homes ??
I used to read meters for one of the utilities in Ohio and i would say we had at least that many keys to homes. So, i would say yes it is that common. |
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