ColdFiltered
join:2005-01-25
Atlanta, GA | Bellsouth did this with IFITL
Many people don't know this, but I just wanted to bring this to light as its nothing new. Bellsouth did exactly this when they were deploying fiber for their IFITL (Integrated Fiber In The Loop) platform, which they no longer continue to deply. |
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yabos
join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON | FIOS and phone
Does the FIOS VOIP go down when there's a power outage? |
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Cod
join:2000-07-05
Greensboro, NC
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Re: Bellsouth did this with IFITL
said by ColdFiltered  :Bellsouth did exactly this when they were deploying fiber for their IFITL (Integrated Fiber In The Loop) platform, which they no longer continue to deply. who says they no longer deploy it? |
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Rob
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
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said by ColdFiltered :Many people don't know this, but I just wanted to bring this to light as its nothing new. Bellsouth did exactly this when they were deploying fiber for their IFITL (Integrated Fiber In The Loop) platform, which they no longer continue to deply. Don't remind us.
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oroper
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join:2004-06-01
Beverly, MA
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Re: FIOS and phone
said by yabos :Does the FIOS VOIP go down when there's a power outage? The battery backup should last for approx 8 hrs. I think you can also add a UPS to it to last longer.
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Black Mammot
Enjoy The Ride
join:2000-06-12
Lovettsville, VA | reply to yabos
I don't really know the answer to the question, but there is a 12 hour backup battery for the fiber.
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betterhardware
@verizon.n
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Re: Bellsouth did this with IFITL
The commitment to better, more energy efficient ONT's and equipment will make copper based networks obsolete! Battery backup tecnology should get better over time (we all hope) wiht lithium ion batteries probably doubling the capacity of regular sla (sealed lead acid) which should provide lots of 'standby and talktime' in emergencies.. (good to keep a spare, just incase) Next generation GBPON equipment should provide a better energy savings as well as increased bandwidth and have a more robust battery backup solution as well- with that, why would anyone want to go back? |
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pcscdma
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join:2004-01-14
Winterset, IA
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| Moving
said by article:
When Verizon installs the fiber-optic connection to your home, the technicians cut down the old, copper-line connection to the telephone network and will not replace it if you later decide to cancel. So the next folks to buy your house will inherit Verizon's fiber connection with it
I think FCC rules require telephone service to everybody that has copper running to their house. There are also requirements on pricing for low-income homes. I don't know if telephone service qualifies as copper and a dial tone or any medium and dial tone. Either way they probably need to be able to provide standalone phone service at the PUC rate.
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shashinka
join:2000-09-16
West Boylston, MA | reply to yabos
Re: FIOS and phone
I believe they install a battery that powers the customer end for several hours. |
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The Right Info
@bellsouth.net | reply to ColdFiltered
Re: Bellsouth did this with IFITL
You are wrong. IFITL is not even close to the same thing. IFITL uses fiber to the curb and then standard CAT3/CAT5 cabling to the house. No fiber NIDs or special equipment on the customers side. |
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shashinka
join:2000-09-16
West Boylston, MA
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Re: Moving
You probably wouldn't see fiber running into low income areas. I still think they would have to offer the same phone rates otherwise they would see even more people moving away from their services alltogether. Be nice to see some Wireless services available via Wi-MAX. |
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
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Re: Bellsouth did this with IFITL
said by The Right Info:
You are wrong. IFITL is not even close to the same thing. IFITL uses fiber to the curb and then standard CAT3/CAT5 cabling to the house. No fiber NIDs or special equipment on the customers side.
So where is the copper for IFITL Users? THey removed the existing copper and ran fiber to the curb and then cat3/cat5 to the house. Which means we can never pick another DSL provider, we *must* use Bellsouth with their 1.5/256 $45/mo. whereas cable is 4.0/384 for $42.95. hmm
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JazzJRabbit
join:2003-09-27
Wheaton, IL
·WOW Internet and C..
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I'm not sure how this works, but, say, what if your long distance service is from other company than verizon? Do they cut the line too? Do you still get to keep your land based phone along with long distance provider but the signal is now carried via FIOS instead of copper?
I'm confused...  |
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shashinka
join:2000-09-16
West Boylston, MA
| If you had local service from another provider then that provider is paying Verizon for the copper loop. Either they are able to provide that on the fiber or they leave it alone. Either way you still have the service. I would hope to see other companies be able to use that fiber eventually. Just like they are looking at making cable companies sell their services. |
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clickwir
join:2001-06-21
Dickson City, PA | no copper is a good thing
This isn't a problem. No copper is a good thing. It's about time they did away with that old crappy, have a problem every time the farmer down the road uses his electric fence, copper.
This is a good thing. We want to get rid of the copper. |
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SquareSlinky
Premium
join:2004-05-25
Tampa, FL | The Post doesn't know what they are talking about
I still have my normal phone line, it is just over fiber. Who cares if they cut the copper. All they do is upgrade you from old copper to new fiber. I am not sure the Post understands what they are talking about. |
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nosnam
join:2005-01-31
Donora, PA | reply to shashinka
Re: Moving
they dont want to move into low-income areas either, they are only upgrading the areas where they know people pay their bills, that is why they dont want franchise agreements, they would be forced to service they whole area, not pick and choose. |
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JTRockville
Data Ho
Premium,MVM
join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
clubs: | reply to shashinka
Re: FIOS and phone
The battery doesn't power everything on the customer end - only the phone service (not IP, and probably not video).
Loss of power often coincides with an emergency situation, which isn't the best time to lose your ability to communicate. |
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JTRockville
Data Ho
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join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
clubs: | What About Other Copper Services?
What if you have DSL (or some other advanced service) through a 3rd party, and you want to keep it as a backup for FiOS? |
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The Beer
I Love It When A Plan Comes Together
Premium
join:2001-07-24
Omaha, NE
clubs: | reply to JTRockville
Re: FIOS and phone
Better yet send high intesity light, or a strange spectrum of light down a pair of fiber with a solar cell at the end...
I know that was stupid but it sounds cool! |
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