  KyleCNikon GuyPremium
join:2001-12-13
Dallas, TX | But does it work with the iPod? But does it work with the iPod?
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join:2004-02-23
Johnson City, TN | Re: But does it work with the iPod? Who cares?
Oh right, the idiots that bought an iPod care 
If you want it to work on the iPod, tell Jobs to stop being a dick. | |
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| | | Since iPods can play mp3's and you can download songs in mp3 format (along with several other formats) with this service I think it's safe to say it actually DOES work. | |
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| | | | Re: But does it work with the iPod? It is not a MP3 download service but a protected WMA download.
So it does not work with the iPod.
From the service's webpage:
iPod Users: If you're an iPod user with a Windows-based PC, you can transfer music you already own to an Apple iPod using the Yahoo! Music Engine. Unfortunately, iPods are not currently compatible with the Yahoo! Music Unlimited subscription service. | |
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Unfortunately, iPods are not currently compatible with the Yahoo! Music Unlimited subscription service. The subscription service is the part with the DRM. When you purchase a song you end up getting a list of options on what format to play like mp3, aac and even ogg files when you rip to CD. You end up getting that mp3, which will work on your iPod. | |
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If so then you can use this service. I know it says WMA but you can change that. | |
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I think they do this because of their yahoo toolbar and other IE browser malware/junk/crapware.
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join:2004-06-10
North York, ON | Re: Can anyone get the site to work in Firefox? Yeah- with anything but IE, I got a "Cannot launch video from your area" error- what the hell does my "area" have to do with launching a video?!? | |
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join:2003-01-25
Birmingham, AL | already sucks Tried to subscribe with Opera and got the message that I have been locked out of my account for using too many different credit cards !!!!! (didn't even got to that section yet !!) so far, I think this is a bad start ! | |
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Dayton, OH
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| $5 per month PLUS.... additional $.79 for each song if you want the "permanent" download so you can burn a CD, etc. Not a great deal. I can pay $5 per month and have streaming music on my computer here at work, or turn on the radio and have it free. Hmm.... how to choose?
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| | | Re: $5 per month PLUS.... said by W8ASA:. I can pay $5 per month and have streaming music on my computer here at work, or turn on the radio and have it free. Hmm.... how to choose? It's all about fidelity there. While FM and AM radio are free the frequency response and signal to noise ratio is nowhere near that of a decent streaming audio service. Radio music is compressed and limited much more compared to the actual CD (or vinyl record even). A decent ear for music can tell the different right away. If Yahoo is streaming at 192k it sounds to be the audio quality will definitely be better.
$5 a month for a better listening experience or practically non-dynamic compressed music for free? That's where the real decision will be.
As for $.79 downloads at 192k that's getting closer to what I feel would be a fair trade off. $.75 is what I would consider a fair "list" price and $.50 would be the good deal. | |
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| |  sporkmedrop the crantini and move it, sisterPremium,MVM
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Morristown, NJ
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| Re: $5 per month PLUS.... said by SRFireside:It's all about fidelity there. While FM and AM radio are free the frequency response and signal to noise ratio is nowhere near that of a decent streaming audio service. Radio music is compressed and limited much more compared to the actual CD (or vinyl record even). A decent ear for music can tell the different right away. Depends on the station... I listen to a ton off over-the-air broadcasts, just not the commercial junk. The college stations, indy stations, NPR don't lay the compression on anywhere as much as the average rock station ("Listen to us!! We're louder!!"). We have three stations here that just sound much better over the air than streamed (WBGO, WFMU, WNYC), mainly because they don't compress the hell out of the audio. Just to clarify, you and I are not talking about compression as far as "data compression", but audio compression/limiting where the audio gain is automatically "adjusted" to make everything sound bigger and louder - low levels are boosted, peaks are squashed, resulting in a very flat sound with little dynamic range. I believe this practice started as stations competed to be the "loudest" so they'd stand out as you scanned the dial for music.
A good FM tuner and antenna still goes a long way. Unless you are in ClearChannel Hell and there's nothing you want to listen to on the radio.
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join:2003-01-26
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kudos:1 | Cd ripping Looking through the settings, they seem to have done something right. Not only does it support mp3, but it does aac, flac, and ogg. | |
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| | They just don't get it. If it's infected with that DRM crap, then I don't want it. | |
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| | | Re: They just don't get it. I hate DRM as much as you, but how are you supposed to have a subscription based service w/o DRM?
Actually, DRM annoys me when I buy a file and it's infected with DRM. It's mine, damnit, I'll do what I will with it. Subscription DRM would not bug me as much, since I know from the outset I am only renting it. | |
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| Still not going to buy into it. First I don't like WMA. Second they are using DRM on files that I would be paying for. I buy music now online, legally and it comes in 192 MP3 and no DRM. I can play it on both of my players, put it on my flash drive for easy transport to my machine at work. Store it at Gmail, burn it to CD if I want.
If I don't have the same abilities with the file that I would with the music on the CD, I'm not buying.
Oh, and I haven't bought anything from anyone on this list »www.riaa.com/about/members/default.asp for two years, and until they stop suing their customers I'm not going to.
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join:2000-11-23
Cincinnati, OH | Stupid Yahoo I won't even consider their services until something starts working with FireFox (or any other browser I might want to use). I've been a fan of Launch for a long time (before Yahoo even owned it, back when it was musicvideos.com). But since it doesn't work with FireFox, I haven't been inclined to go there for a very long time. If I'm not going to use their free stuff because it's an inconvenience, you can be damn sure I'm not going to pay them for it. | |
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join:2002-06-17
Clementon, NJ | Re: Stupid Yahoo My thoughts exactly, Launch does not work with firefox, and until it does count me OUT!!! | |
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join:2002-11-29
Santa Maria, CA | Yahoo with Musicmatch? I subscribe to musicmatch and noticed on the Musicmatch homepage the logo in the upper right has the yahoo music logo on it. So is this music player from yahoo basically musicmatch with a new wrapper?
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join:2002-11-29
Santa Maria, CA | Re: Yahoo with Musicmatch?
Yahoo with Musicmatch |
said by Sunsetstrip: I believe that Yahoo is partnered with Musicnet not Musicmatch Their logo shows up right on the webpage of musicmatch
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join:2000-07-08
West Hollywood, CA
2 edits | Re: Yahoo with Musicmatch? And Musicnet shows on the bottom of the screen,now I am confused( a short trip for me !)
»docs.yahoo.com/docs/pr/release1237.html
"Yahoo! Music will continue to offer Musicmatch's Jukebox 10 music management and On Demand subscription services. Effective today, Musicmatch On Demand pricing will be lowered to $6.99 monthly, $5.99 quarterly and $4.99 annually for subscribers. Yahoo! Music intends to eventually combine Musicmatch's offerings with Yahoo! Music Unlimited to create the industry's best end-to-end suite of music services."
»wwws.musicmatch.com/faq/REG046.htm
"Current and future subscribers of Musicmatch Premium Radio or Musicmatch On Demand will not be affected by the pending Yahoo! acquisition of Musicmatch. All subscriptions to Musicmatch music services, whether monthly, quarterly or annual, will continue to be honored for the duration of the subscription period"
Thank you for your support of Musicmatch. We are excited about the new music products and services that we will be able to offer you through our new relationship with Yahoo!
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Did Yahoo have some relationship with Musicmatch prior to this ?...did they but them out ?...is Musicnet and Musicmatch one in the same ?
Here's my take on Yahoo's service compared to the Musicnet service offered by my ISP that I have used since 12/2004
»Adelphia Music vs Yahoo Music
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| | F DAT Why should i pay for another service? I pay 12.95 a month for XM and i get free streaming on there site so No thanks Yahoo you can keep you crap .
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| | | Re: F DAT I have XM too, but with XM you cannot pick and choose which songs you want to listen to. XM is not an on-demand service. This is. XM is a streaming radio service. Yahoo is just like Rhapsody, Virgin Digital, Napster, FYE... with the added benefits of having Launchcast Plus radio at no extra cost. This is not just another streaming radio service as so many seem to be getting confused about on here.
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join:2001-06-26
Mcdonough, GA | 2 questions 1. Can I browse the library for free?
2. Who wants to bet it gets cracked in a week or two.
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join:2000-10-11
Lincolnshire, IL | How are they doing this?!? I mean the labels pushed Apple so hard with demands that iTunes is nearly unprofitable at .99c per track @ 128Kbps. What kind of slack did the labels cut with Yahoo to offer this at $4.99mo unlimited? | |
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| | | Re: How are they doing this?!? Good question. Maybe now that iTunes has tested the waters and proven there is a market for paid downloads (in spite of the label's greed on royalties and licensing) they are offering better rates for Yahoo. Or maybe Yahoo is operating at a loss and making it up on something related like ads or value added service. | |
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| | | | Re: How are they doing this?!? Or maybe it is because the $4.99 a month does not include the rights to burn to a CD and the music expires when your subscription does. | |
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| | | | | Re: How are they doing this?!? Doesn't iTunes do something similar with their monthly subscription? Not having used the service I just assumed that's what was going on. | |
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1 edit | I'm trying it for 7 days free! Plus for $5 buck per month if you pay for a year isn't bad!
This price is going to go up! Better deal than Naptser!
I made a killing in Yahoo stocks so I'll support them!
Bought way back at $13 per share and I'm sitting pretty right now! | |
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| | | | Re: I'm trying it for 7 days free! said by blacksurfer:Bought way back at $13 per share and I'm sitting pretty right now! AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!
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|  pcscdmaChocobo Chocobo Random BattlePremium
join:2004-01-14
Winterset, IA | Re: Launchcast difference? Paid Launchcast service was 96kbit/s and you could not immediately choose what you wanted to hear. You would need to set up your ratings and wait/skip until you got what you wanted.
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2 edits | Yawn Whoop de do. How is Wal Mart's music store doing anyway? I'd like to see a sales comparison of all the music stores online.
Oh I can stream music all day long for free with iTunes, and even if I couldn't I'd use a radio. Why do people want to pay for this "service"? Wake up people, you're wasting your money. To those who would say streaming music is higher fidelity: that may well be but are you sitting in a sound proofed room so you can actually hear the difference? No you are sitting in a noisy office, people with XM are sitting in noisy cars in traffic. No advantage. | |
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I signed up to test it out. Upon reading the description, I expected they wouldnt actually offer downloadable tracks with the subscription. Once I confirmed this, I immediately cancelled my account. If I'm going to have to rent DRM enabled tracks for a monthly fee, I prefer to keep Npaster so I can download the files to my hard drive and play them offline whenever I choose. | |
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join:2002-04-14
Wyoming, MI | I'd use this if I had a Janus capable music player But what songs can you listen to? The ones available on launchcast? | |
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join:2002-04-14
Wyoming, MI
1 edit | Anyone want to test the yahoo music engine with me Apparently, you can view and listen to your Y! Messenger friend's music if you're both running yahoo music engine (which is free). I'm going right now, but someone can add ssj4android to their yahoo friends list and test it out later.
EDIT: This looks bad -
"To hear full songs, you must subscribe to Yahoo! Music Unlimited. If you do not subscribe, you will only hear :30 samples."
Does that apply to mp3s and stuff too? | |
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join:2002-04-14
Wyoming, MI | Re: Hummm.. NO Mac Support from another retailer!! If you do that, you might as well just download the mp3s. Or rent from the library and rip. | |
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| |  HappyBunnyHi. Cram It.Premium
join:2001-06-23
Long Beach, CA
kudos:1 | said by AT11:I see that again there is another music retailer ignoring  the Mac users and out of the side of their mouths  they bad mouth the Apple Music Store. Yup... I am there with you. Why slam Apple when you are basically flipping all of us Mac users the bird, anyway?
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kd6caeP2p Shouldn't Be A Crime
join:2001-08-27
Palmdale, CA Reviews:
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| OK enough of DRM already! OK, when will the idiots realize that most consumers, myself included do not want to pay for something that restricts how or where you can play the file! Music services such as napster, itunes, walmart, yahoo and whatever else is out there are a neat concept, but as I've said in the past, if record labels would even just try and offer services like this, without DRM all over the content, I believe more folks would be happy to pay for the content, since it could be played on any operating system, or any portable device! Now how hard is that to understand? You can play cassettes in any tape deck, you can play CD's in any CD player, so why be so restrictive as to what devices/computers can play content! another disadvantage of DRM files, is should you have to reload your computer system, backing up your DRM files is useless since you can't play them anyway! It sucks. And yes by nature non DRM files would appear on p2p networks, but that's just a fact of life that the RIAA needs to live with. If they offered downloads from their own servers which would be connected to multiple OC3's or OC12's, it'd be the best of both worlds, the consumer gets what they want, and the RIAA wins, now what could be wrong with that? The unfortunate thing is DRM must do pretty well, since I've yet to hear of any ways to crack WMA files such as those from Napster. I personally use those services only as a last resort if I can't find tracks by any other method! Again give us a service that anyone regardless of device or operating system can use! | |
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|  Doctor FourMy other vehicle is a TARDISPremium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX | Re: OK enough of DRM already! All valid points there. The music industry really needs
to sit down at the table and work out something with the
p2p companies to offer their content in non DRM restricted
format on the networks. Shawn Fanning has got kind of the
right idea with Snocap and Mashboxx, and at least one of
the majors, Sony/BMG (and perhaps EMI as well) has signed
onto the new p2p network. But it is too little, too late.
The current offerings are dwarfed by a factor of more than
1000 by the content traded on the non industry approved p2p
networks. And despite the lawsuits and other actions taken
by the content cartels, their usage keeps increasing. They
will never compete with them with what they are offering now.
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| KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | i P2P because i feel that DRM takes away the rights we should have. imagine if CDs knew where they had been used and it didnt play in your home stereo because you played in your car on the way home from the mall. thats what DRM does and if i buy something it is now mine and i should be allowed to do with it as i please not what some exec who probally has to hire an electriction to plug in a coffee maker wants me to be able to do with the file.
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join:2003-05-26
USA/MidWest
kudos:1 Reviews:
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| Good concept Wrong provider. The pricing is good enough that I would use it, right along with a few million others. If there where no catches, seems we have a way to go before a clean bought download is a going concern. $5.00 + the paternal .79c would certainly work. Given, a no catch 22; that seems to be present.
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Again, the fatal flaw with this "DRM protected" scheme is that sooner or later, it has to be turned into a analog signal, which can be recorded onto a hard drive by many suitable programs and 192 bit is not too bad to work with. Once it is in the hard drive in useable form, this business about not being able to use what you have downloaded (and PAID for) if you drop your subscription is meaningless.
Once again, DRM is no protection at all in the end, just a waste of time and their money. I find it vastly amusing, myself | |
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Hummm.. NO Mac Support from another retailer!!