Maxeh
Woot?
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join:2002-12-23
Chicago, IL
clubs: | on average,
you get around 10-15gb (more really) of ENGLISH mp3s released in warez scene daily,
on the internet, free always wins |
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Spiral
No Easy Way To Be Free.
Premium
join:2003-03-04
Baltimore, MD
| When I was your age
I had to ride my bike through the snow (sometimes uphill) in order to go to the record store and buy the new release from Jethro Tull, Led Zeppelin, or whoever, AND pay $2.99 for the album with money earned from my paper route. That's what we used to do, kiddies  |
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Jason Levine
Premium
join:2001-07-13
USA
| Used CDs - Best way to obtain music
With used CDs, you get a legal copy that you can then rip into whatever format and bitrate you want without any DRM getting in the way. Oftentimes, you can sometimes even find used CDs almost as cheap as their online counterparts.
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http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/
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DarkSorcerer
Premium
join:2004-06-15
Belleview, FL
| reply to Maxeh
Re: on average,
The Music Labels Really shot themselves in the foot, when they went after napser, and they've shot everyone else too...
With new p2p Technology showing up daily/weekly/monthly there's no way they can catch up, and with generation after generation getting more decentralized and private they let the cat out the bag, and it's a breeding like crazy |
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ortrythis
@act-solutions.com | reply to Jason Levine
Re: Used CDs - Best way to obtain music
Libraries have new CD's. |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| reply to Spiral
Re: When I was your age
It's a lot the same thing these days. Well. Close. These days, mom and dad drive around Johnny in their leather heated SUV to whatever he wants. They give him money for what he wants. They provide the DSL/Cable modem that he wants. Then he still just downloads it. Other then these minor differences, it's really the same circumstances. |
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markopoleo
join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
 ·Charter Pipeline
| Artist start there own website and make money.
Simple, if artists would remove the leesh from the RIAA neck and took there music into own hands they would make money, and people would buy it.
Sell a song for a few cents on your OWN website, release "online" only exclusive songs, give users what they want you can and will turn a profit plus still enjoy what you want to do in music.
For example, say U2 closed up shop and moved it all online. You think they would suffer in sales? heck no, people would of course still pirate, but not nearly as much as they used to U2 albums etc. |
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Johnny Moon
join:2004-08-30
Northridge, CA | DRM? No thanks!
I won't pay ANYTHING for DRM'd music. I'd rather purchase the CD at a retail store and rip it myself -- which is exactly what I do. |
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JSRoman
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL
1 edit | Yes , it can compete!
Everyday we here of torrent sites being shut down and every other week downloaders getting sued. Will there be people that would rather steal than pay? You bet, but the threat of a lawsuit or jail term will make those willing to download music without paying aka "stealing", less and less. Eventually you'll get to that point where the percentage of those stealing music over the internet will be dwarfed by those willing to pay 79-99 cents per song. Yahoo should be able to do as well or better than Itunes just based on the number of folks that use Yahoo on daily basis.
FLAME SHIELD ACTIVATED! |
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Jason Levine
Premium
join:2001-07-13
USA
| reply to ortrythis
Re: Used CDs - Best way to obtain music
Yes, but notice that I said "get a legal copy." You can take a CD out of the library, but you aren't allow to rip a copy for your own personal use. However, you can buy a CD from a used CD shop and then rip that CD to whatever format you want. The only catch is that if you sell the original CD, you should delete all ripped copies of the songs. (But I normally keep the original in a safe place as a backup copy anyway.)
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO | reply to JSRoman
Re: Yes , it can compete!
You under estimate the stupidity of human kind, as well as their lack of morality.
NOW LET ME UNDER THAT SHIELD! |
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Jason Levine
Premium
join:2001-07-13
USA
| reply to DarkSorcerer
Re: on average,
I agree. With Napster they had a centralized system that could have been used to easily track and distribute payments. They could have enticed users in with free low-bitrate copies of the music (say, around FM radio quality), but charged for higher bitrate (e.g. CD quality) versions for the users to download. With a bit of work, the original Napster could have easily become an "iTunes" type of shop only without all of the illegal P2P trading as competition.
Instead, they took the "sue them out of existence until we figure this Internet thing out" approach. They wound up having to compete with a few dozen different P2P networks whose users distribute free (albeit illegal) versions of the same music they're trying to sell. They also wound up (by suing users) with some bad PR.
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CPM
join:2001-08-24
Miami, FL | reply to Spiral
Re: When I was your age
Don't forget smoking the bong. |
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Drex_CS
join:2005-05-11
canada
| reply to JSRoman
Re: Yes , it can compete!
what your forgetting here is that the music industry in no way could possibly sue enough people to make most stop downloading. For every one 13 year old kid they sue, there is another couple hundred thousand downloading off his computer right then. Personally i get every new CD that comes out that i like for free, and there is no worry of being in a lawsuit. There is more likelyhood of you turning into a computer than getting sued because of one. |
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mrchris
We don't miss you Bush
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join:2002-10-01
North Babylon, NY | Usenet  |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| reply to JSRoman
what choo been drinkin' JSRoman?
Neither selling digital songs nor subscription services have proven to be a viable business model for selling music. I don't think any of the mainstream online music stores are making money and I will go out on a limb and predict they never will with the current business model.
I am waiting for the music industry to change their business model or fail. I will NEVER buy DRMed digital music and I am certainly not interested in "renting" music. |
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maximus_808
Proud Veteran
Premium
join:2001-08-27
Green Cove Springs, FL
clubs: | reply to Skippy25
I haven't paid for a song in 5 years ... free works for me. |
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sadowski
I Am My Own Doppelganger
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join:2000-04-14
Buffalo, NY
clubs:
| reply to Spiral
Re: When I was your age
said by Spiral  :I had to ride my bike through the snow (sometimes uphill) in order to go to the record store and buy the new release from Jethro Tull, Led Zeppelin, or whoever, AND pay $2.99 for the album with money earned from my paper route. That's what we used to do, kiddies You had a bike? You were really spoiled! I had to crawl through snow and rain and shrapnel just to look at the album covers because I couldn't afford to buy one.
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t10
join:2003-05-25
Woodbridge, ON
| reply to Maxeh
Re: on average,
said by Maxeh :you get around 10-15gb (more really) of ENGLISH mp3s released in warez scene daily, on the internet, free always wins yeah, keeping up is a b*tch aint it?
PS. Whoever came up with the idea to relabel dance as trance, needs to be shot.
twice.
in the left testicle.
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Sympatico Ultra + Rogers Extreme Dual WANage |
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King P
Don't blame me. I voted for Ron Paul
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join:2004-11-17
Inman, SC
 ·Windstream
·Charter Pipeline
| reply to Jason Levine
The sad thing is that online Music doesn't HAVE to be this way. Because the "Industry" is looking to make money at every angle they can, we get crap like DRM and the DMCA. However, part of the blame does lie with the Artist, and I say that only because they don't bother to seek out an alternative, or else they don't care. Most artists have the clout to stand up and say no, but they choose not to. Who can blame them, they have bills to pay just like everyone else, and when they make about 1/10 of the money the labels do (off of THEIR music) who can really blame them.
No one can say that there isn't an alternative, however. See my sig for more details. If WE will spread the word about sites like this, then eventually everyone can benefit from it.
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Forget 'em, Support the Indies.»www.ind-music.com |
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