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Comments on news posted 2005-05-22 12:23:18: While MPAA chief Dan Glickman rages about the evils of file-traders and Bit Torrent, 77% of pirated films (including last weeks leak of Revenge of the Sith) come from Hollywood insiders, notes p2pnet. ..

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P2PLiterz

join:2005-03-25
Courtenay, BC
Insiders.

ya if it wasnt for them there would be no movies on bittorrent yet we are being blamed?


AbBaZaBbA
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join:2002-07-10
Wildomar, CA
No!!

don't do that. Then we won't get all the leet dvdscr's. Keep fighting your losing battle against technology, please!

yabos

join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON
Makes it easy

Bittorrent makes it easy to download the movies but it's not bittorrent that leaked the movie, it was someone that works for Lucas Arts.


Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
So What is new

It is obvious from the p2pnet posting Hollywood really doesn't care how these movies make it to Bit Torrent, they just hate Bit Torrent and anything else digital.


Sean

join:2004-01-23
Ottawa
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Personally.

I don't personally agree with downloading movies that are still in theatres. DVDs are fine... but not movies still in theatres. But whatever.

The more we let the MPAA fight their battle, the better off we are. They don't see that yet. We need to stop telling them their wrong. Let them fight, let them lose.


CPM

join:2001-08-24
Miami, FL
Of course

Of course it is a inside job. They just don't appear out of the sky..

Now a quote from Dogma.

"Big chested Naked women don't fall from the sky, you know."


xdeadhead
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join:2000-11-08
Mechanicsburg, PA
cant blame the p2p app for network content

thats like blaming the people that designed todays modern roads because someone that robbed a bank used that road to escape. i tell ya these mpaa people are proving themselves to be more and more clueless as time progresses.


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join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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reply to Sean
Re: Personally.

said by Sean See Profile:

I don't personally agree with downloading movies that are still in theatres. DVDs are fine... but not movies still in theatres. But whatever.

The more we let the MPAA fight their battle, the better off we are. They don't see that yet. We need to stop telling them their wrong. Let them fight, let them lose.
I agree, I feel I am getting my moneys worth on DVD's if I have to wait for the release that is fine. It is a waste to download these crappy copies. I downloaded a bootleg copy of Chamber of Secrets just out of curiosity it took hours and it was so bad I deleted it after a few minutes of viewing. I simply will not waste my time.
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OceanaJones

join:2004-10-18
Suffolk, VA

Easier to nail end users

It's easier for the MPAA to go after the end user than to look from within their own organization. The little peon down loaders with few resources to fight the MPAA organization will most likely settle than fight in court. The "insiders" with access to these works are likely more powerful, and the MPAA would never want to piss these important executives off! It's easier for MPAA to get their government cronies to pass laws that put the burden on individual file sharers, most who are young people with little resources. Our government has no problems running roughshod over individual rights when it comes to protecting their high dollar friends. Have you heard about the new "catch all" law called "The Patriot Act"?


Pirate515
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join:2001-01-22
Brooklyn, NY

 reply to Sean
Re: Personally.

said by Sean See Profile:

I don't personally agree with downloading movies that are still in theatres. DVDs are fine... but not movies still in theatres. But whatever.
I actually do the opposite. If I liked a movie in theater, I would download a screener so that I can watch it at home instead of visiting the theater multiple times until it is officially released on DVD. Once the DVD comes out, I buy it and trash the screener.
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quote:
If I liked a movie in theater, I would download a screener so that I can watch it at home instead of visiting the theater multiple times
I might utilize your philosophy if I actually liked anything Hollywood was putting out. I'll be going to see Star Wars next weekend (first time back in a theater in over two years), but that's based more on fondness for the original trilogy than anything else.
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Pirate515
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join:2001-01-22
Brooklyn, NY

 reply to OceanaJones
Re: Easier to nail end users

It depends on what kind of insiders you are talking about. I'm sure the executives have better things to do than supply the scene members with reels/tapes/DVDs of movies that are still playing in theaters. Most likely these materials are stolen by some little guys such as stock room workers who are simply trying to make a quick buck by selling the stuff to someone in the scene. IMHO, these guys are pretty easy to nail; I believe they caught the one who leaked Episode II as well as the one who leaked "The Hulk", and both of them are doing some time now.
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Sean

join:2004-01-23
Ottawa
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reply to Pirate515
Re: Personally.

That's fine as well. What I meant though, was that I don't agree with downloading a movie without watching it in theatres first.

Though, I don't buy DVDs, simply because I refuse to pay $24 for a movie + 234820482 hours of footage I'll never watch. I want the movie, and maybe an hour or two of behind the scenes stuff. Not 92357 hours. I'm confident the price would go down to $15 if they just put the movie on there.


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Whar tripe !

Trying to justify Piracy is hopeless. Everyone knows stealing is a crime and you can whine all the way to your prison cell - exactly where all criminals, aka Pirates belong. Blaming the MPAA for some internal leaks does not in any way justify theft or facilitation and distribution of stolen property. All Pirates and P2P facilitators will do prison time at the end of the day - as it should be.

jojodancer

join:2003-07-22
Burlington, VT
Star wars

If pirated films affect hollywood's bottom line, then how come Revenge of the Sith set an opening day record for revenue?

In fact, how come each year a new film seems to break all the different records, be it single day, opening week, etc.


Pirate515
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join:2001-01-22
Brooklyn, NY

 reply to djrobx
Re: Personally.

said by djrobx See Profile:

I might utilize your philosophy if I actually liked anything Hollywood was putting out.
Well that's another reason why people out there are downloading. They see a screener, realize that the movie sucks, and never see it on a big screen. By taking downloading out of the equation, MPAA hopes to bring the curious ones to the theaters. Think about it, they go to see some unknown movie, find out that it sucks, but by then it is too late, they've already spent the money on tickets.
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ArchAngel21x
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reply to Sean
$24? You must be shopping at the wrong places. There are plenty of stores that sell DVDs for less than that. Also, waiting a while for the price to drop helps. I wish the same could be said for CDs.
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jester121
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
reply to jojodancer
Re: Star wars

Their point is, without the piracy, they'd have broken the record EVEN MORE!!

ElusiveH

join:2004-10-29
Shelby, MI
And become even more Greedy. Then their standards raise and want even more money..... I'm seeing a vicious cycle


Cest Moi

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reply to GetAfrigginCLUE
Re: Whar tripe !

Its not "stealing", its copyright infringment. I mean they "RAPE" us with what they charge for admission to watch one of these movies.
The MPAA needs to start using the proper terms to describe what is actually happening, because so many people can't think for themselves.
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